I didn’t have lower back pumps at all.The only side I had was I couldn’t sleep at night.
Taurine, cmon guys it’s like in all the write ups. It’s definitly in about any successfull logs.
-halflife
[quote]halflife wrote:
Taurine, cmon guys it’s like in all the write ups. It’s definitly in about any successfull logs.
-halflife[/quote]
Oh, agreed, I saw that when I first started looking into SD. Just curious as to they why behind the back pumps.
There is a website I was given that explained it pretty well. The pumps come from the stress on the liver (which is located in your lower back). You can search for it or ask around on TN for any other info.
I am considering doing a cycle of SD. Am currently using T-Bomb from MHP with some half way decent results. Just curious how the SD will interact with the T-Bomb, or how long I should get off the T-Bomb before starting a cylce of SD with the appropriate PCT.
I appreciate any input on this
well its my last week on the MM and M1p cycle for me, i have noticed lots of strength gains and the ability to train harder and longer than before. i have a weight training class in high school and everyone is very supprised the size i have gained and the strength gains since the last time i had that class. they dont know im on gear 
well when im done im doing some novladex or whatever its called and i will post with the results of the complete cycle trust me i was impressed with it , i will get pics if i can.
Hey guys I am thinking about taking MM. I am 24 years old and about 6’ 185. What does everyone recommend to take before and pct. Also should I take anything during? Just tring to get some feedback. Thanks Guys.
[quote]warhamster87 wrote:
well its my last week on the MM and M1p cycle for me, i have noticed lots of strength gains and the ability to train harder and longer than before. i have a weight training class in high school and everyone is very supprised the size i have gained and the strength gains since the last time i had that class. they dont know im on gear
well when im done im doing some novladex or whatever its called and i will post with the results of the complete cycle trust me i was impressed with it , i will get pics if i can.[/quote]
So, you read all there was to read about how children your age shouldn’t do this shit and then post crowing about your achievements in your fucking weight lifting class?
“Novladex (sic) or whatever its called”?
CAN YOU TRULY BE THIS FUCKING STUPID?
Do not post your pictures. Just tell us what high school you go to. As a teacher, it would give me the truest pleasure to rat your little ass out for your own damn good.
[quote]facko wrote:
Well from what ive gathered on teens using steroids …im 18 btw, is that the main side effects would be stunted growth and infertility.
For one…i really cant see myself growing anymore by the age of 21…and if i do it would prolly be like a 1/2"…which i wouldnt really miss…im fine with my height right now.
As far as the infertility issue is concerned…doesnt concern me either because i have no interest in children and am sexually active and dont want a kid running around…so that would be a plus. If you guys can give me an idea of some serious side effects that would be increased if taken by a teen(with some proof) i would be more than happy to agree with you.
Again im not juicing as of now out of the thought of losing respect by veteran lifters. I would like to add health reasons to my list for not juicing too…i just havent seen any serious reasons other than growth and infertility as to why it would be more dangerous for me at 18 to juice than for me at 21 to juice.[/quote]
Know what can cause infertility? Lack of testosterone. And lack of T will leave you impotent. Might seem like a good thing not having kids, but you won’t be having kids if you can’t get your shit hard. In the end is it worth it?
[quote]harris447 wrote:
warhamster87 wrote:
well its my last week on the MM and M1p cycle for me, i have noticed lots of strength gains and the ability to train harder and longer than before. i have a weight training class in high school and everyone is very supprised the size i have gained and the strength gains since the last time i had that class. they dont know im on gear
well when im done im doing some novladex or whatever its called and i will post with the results of the complete cycle trust me i was impressed with it , i will get pics if i can.
So, you read all there was to read about how children your age shouldn’t do this shit and then post crowing about your achievements in your fucking weight lifting class?
“Novladex (sic) or whatever its called”?
CAN YOU TRULY BE THIS FUCKING STUPID?
Do not post your pictures. Just tell us what high school you go to. As a teacher, it would give me the truest pleasure to rat your little ass out for your own damn good.
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Well put, Harris. How these young guys can juice up is beyond me!
Goddamit, just eat more and lift heavy. You’ve got more Test floating around inside you now than you ever will again. You are fucking that up and it is so unnecessary!
Eat more food! Arrggghhhhh!!!
How about mood swings or that feeling of aggressivness…short fuse type of thing?
Anyone got a good workout to do on MM.
Yeah, do five sets of HEAVY barbell curls (with the olympic bar in the squat rack), followed with five sets of HEAVY tricep kickbacks, then go over to the cable station, settup up the pulleys at about chest/right below shoulder level, now, facing one of the pulley’s grab the handle, moving towards the center where you grab the handle to the pulley behind you; now that you have both handles pull with one and push the other, doing sets of ten, once you finish pulling with one and pushing with the other, switch up, pull with the hand that was pushing and push with the hand that was pulling. Do five sets of ten, increasing weight with each set
this is why you get lower back pumps (this is how it was explained to me). Sd increased glycogen synthesis and shuttles it to your muscles. your lower back is working all day log if you think about it. it holds you upright while standing or sitting. because of this, the back gets the biggest pump and it seems constant b/c your back never really rests until you lay down.
if i am way off base someone please correct me but i think this is the reason.
your right, your right, your right, i should get into my time machine and reverse time to the days where i took 3 protine drinks a day and ate like a trash truck and gained no muscle and no weight when i lifted 3 times a week with no results. then i split a bottle of MM with a friend, and start to see some results while still doing my food and protine routine every day.
its not like im shooting a god damn needle into my are every day shooting myself full of shit made by mexicans ! i got a little help from 37 pills of MM, 1 a day for 1 week and 2 a day for 2 weeks, then take some Alpha Male and be done with it. having 0 side affects may he a hint that im not fucking my body up and that they are probably not even doing there job like there made to do. btw my football coaches take this stuff as well.
let me ask you this !!! when your were 18 did u do anything your would regret today >>>>>???<<<<< probably !, so SHUT THE HELL UP, i was looking for advice for PCT, and trying to inform others about this great product and i get flamed ! so… im sure u fucked a fat girl or robbed a quicky mart, or stole from your grandma or tried gear whenever you were my age, so please try to explain your feelings in a nice way instead of trying to act like your perfect and the kid who looked into gear is a total idiot. your could say. “hey, dude thats dangerous at your age. Consider looking into this website for some more info on kids that juice at 18. www.dont-flame-everyone-thinking-your-so-god-damn-smart.com it has some things your might wanna read.”
but instead you are being a ASS PIRATE ! oh well my cycle is over soon and i will feel better than ever knowing that i am fully prepared to keep my T levels up while maintaining my gains and not geting bitch tits, im not just someone who said today i want to become a juicer to be COOL ! i looked into what was effective and how to make it the least harmfull and then i made the decision to do it…
thanks for understanding.
[quote]warhamster87 wrote:
your right, your right, your right, i should get into my time machine and reverse time to the days where i took 3 protine drinks a day and ate like a trash truck and gained no muscle and no weight when i lifted 3 times a week with no results. then i split a bottle of MM with a friend, and start to see some results while still doing my food and protine routine every day.
its not like im shooting a god damn needle into my are every day shooting myself full of shit made by mexicans ! i got a little help from 37 pills of MM, 1 a day for 1 week and 2 a day for 2 weeks, then take some Alpha Male and be done with it. having 0 side affects may he a hint that im not fucking my body up and that they are probably not even doing there job like there made to do. btw my football coaches take this stuff as well.
let me ask you this !!! when your were 18 did u do anything your would regret today >>>>>???<<<<< probably !, so SHUT THE HELL UP, i was looking for advice for PCT, and trying to inform others about this great product and i get flamed ! so… im sure u fucked a fat girl or robbed a quicky mart, or stole from your grandma or tried gear whenever you were my age, so please try to explain your feelings in a nice way instead of trying to act like your perfect and the kid who looked into gear is a total idiot. your could say. “hey, dude thats dangerous at your age. Consider looking into this website for some more info on kids that juice at 18. www.dont-flame-everyone-thinking-your-so-god-damn-smart.com it has some things your might wanna read.”
but instead you are being a ASS PIRATE ! oh well my cycle is over soon and i will feel better than ever knowing that i am fully prepared to keep my T levels up while maintaining my gains and not geting bitch tits, im not just someone who said today i want to become a juicer to be COOL ! i looked into what was effective and how to make it the least harmfull and then i made the decision to do it…
thanks for understanding.[/quote]
Hey guys, read this guy’s post! Its a laugh-riot!
Go ahead and hit the gear, boyo. Come back when your balls are size of raisins. Be sure to tell us all about it! LMAO!
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Hey guys, read this guy’s post! Its a laugh-riot!
Go ahead and hit the gear, boyo. Come back when your balls are size of raisins. Be sure to tell us all about it! LMAO!
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I’m really surprised here. Your coaches should be fired and jailed …Especially if they know you are on this and that you know they are on it. Interesting situation. Are you on a losing team?
Whatever happened to hard work and dedication?
[quote]warhamster87 wrote:
your right, your right, your right, i should get into my time machine and reverse time to the days where i took 3 protine drinks a day and ate like a trash truck and gained no muscle and no weight when i lifted 3 times a week with no results. then i split a bottle of MM with a friend, and start to see some results while still doing my food and protine routine every day.
its not like im shooting a god damn needle into my are every day shooting myself full of shit made by mexicans ! i got a little help from 37 pills of MM, 1 a day for 1 week and 2 a day for 2 weeks, then take some Alpha Male and be done with it. having 0 side affects may he a hint that im not fucking my body up and that they are probably not even doing there job like there made to do. btw my football coaches take this stuff as well.
let me ask you this !!! when your were 18 did u do anything your would regret today >>>>>???<<<<< probably !, so SHUT THE HELL UP, i was looking for advice for PCT, and trying to inform others about this great product and i get flamed ! so… im sure u fucked a fat girl or robbed a quicky mart, or stole from your grandma or tried gear whenever you were my age, so please try to explain your feelings in a nice way instead of trying to act like your perfect and the kid who looked into gear is a total idiot. your could say. “hey, dude thats dangerous at your age. Consider looking into this website for some more info on kids that juice at 18. www.dont-flame-everyone-thinking-your-so-god-damn-smart.com it has some things your might wanna read.”
but instead you are being a ASS PIRATE ! oh well my cycle is over soon and i will feel better than ever knowing that i am fully prepared to keep my T levels up while maintaining my gains and not geting bitch tits, im not just someone who said today i want to become a juicer to be COOL ! i looked into what was effective and how to make it the least harmfull and then i made the decision to do it…
thanks for understanding.[/quote]
I wanna slap some sense into you for so many fucking reasons.
First, you oughta get down on your scrawny knees and thank Jebus I’m not your Enlgish teacher, you little lackwit.
Let’s document your stupidity point-by-point:
“3 protine (sic) drinks a day and ate like a trash truck.”
I guarantee you weren’t getting more than 2,500 kCal a day, mostly from shit.
“…lifted 3 times a week with no results…”
What was your program? Lotta curls, right?
“its not like im shooting a god damn needle into my are every day shooting myself full of shit made by mexicans”
Nice racism, there, first off. Second, did you know that injecting steroids is LESS dangerous that oral ingestion? No, of course you didn’t.
“i got a little help from 37 pills of MM, 1 a day for 1 week and 2 a day for 2 weeks, then take some Alpha Male and be done with it.”
A) There are 90 pills in a bottle. if you split it with a friend, that would be 45.
B) 1 pill a day for a week plus 2 pills a day for 2 weeks = 35, not 37
C) Alpha Male, while a fine product is nowhere near enough for PCT.
“btw my football coaches take this stuff as well.”
These men should be arrested, plain and simple.
“so… im sure u fucked a fat girl or robbed a quicky mart, or stole from your grandma or tried gear whenever you were my age, so please try to explain your feelings in a nice way instead of trying to act like your perfect and the kid who looked into gear is a total idiot.”
Fucked a fat girl? Hell, yeah! They’re fun! They do stuff skinny chicks won’t. As for robbing quicky marts…what are you, an idiot? Oh, yes: you are. Popping anything–ANYTHING–into your mouth without knowing what it is makes you an idiot.
“oh well my cycle is over soon and i will feel better than ever knowing that i am fully prepared to keep my T levels up while maintaining my gains and not geting bitch tits,”
You are not prepared to keep what miniscule gains you might think you have accrued.
Your T levels will be fucked up for a loooooong time.
You might avoid bitch tits (do you even know the real name for them?) simply because of the chemical properties of the particular substance.
I’ve said this before to other people: You–and people like you–are the reason steroids are not only illegal, but demonized. You need to eat more, lift more, and most of all, think more.
Nice response Harris.
[quote]crews713 wrote:
golfer44 wrote:
haha… PCT = Post Cycle Therapy… that means you take it AFTER your cycle… quite simple
Thanks for the info. From reading all these posts ill prolly not take anything. i took m1t and it seemed to screw me up and got bad acne and my back has bothered me since around that time. (dunno if the m1t did it, or if its possibke)
@ The a-holes wasnt that hard was it?
and about my intelligence. i bet im smarted than you are and im only 18. im a senior in highschool and im one class away from my associates degree. so go die :}
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After read this post several times I must admit that I will never again question your intelligence. It is more than obvoius that you are “smarted” than the rest of us.
Is it safe to assume that your “associates degree” is for English?
Christopher