[quote]facko wrote:
Dude honestly…call me an idiot but i doubt that someone could get REALLY hurt on this if they just cycled it. Sure they could maybe mess wit their liver a little…and their hormones may shut down but that isnt going to kill you on the spot. I honestly do not care what happens to me 20-30 years up the road from now. Ill def get flamed for this post but…fuck it…i ll just come out and be dead honest with you…i know steroids are bad for you to some extent…im 18 and the only reason why im not using them is because i want respect from people who have been lifting for a long time. I dont want them to think im taking the easy way out by juicing within a year of starting to lift. But dont for one second think that me not taking the plunge has anything to do with health reasons lol…i could care less about my growth plates closing and my sperm count reduced to nothing. So if it were commonly accepted to juice even when just starting out…and i wouldnt be judged negatively on it…i would have used my ass for a pin cusion already.[/quote]
Understood, btu the point is there are too many kids taking this without stopping and/or especially they do not know what it really is.
Listen to Rockscar, fellows. I know most teens don’t EVER think about what they’ll be doing at 30 (I am a high school teacher BTW, so I know a little here.) Do you want it to be in a hospital bed?
Having a rebellious nature is fine; it’s part of being young. But some of us old folks (ahem…older) have been around the block a time or two and WE DO CARE ABOUT YOU. Otherwise, we wouldn’t post.
Well from what ive gathered on teens using steroids …im 18 btw, is that the main side effects would be stunted growth and infertility.
For one…i really cant see myself growing anymore by the age of 21…and if i do it would prolly be like a 1/2"…which i wouldnt really miss…im fine with my height right now.
As far as the infertility issue is concerned…doesnt concern me either because i have no interest in children and am sexually active and dont want a kid running around…so that would be a plus. If you guys can give me an idea of some serious side effects that would be increased if taken by a teen(with some proof) i would be more than happy to agree with you.
Again im not juicing as of now out of the thought of losing respect by veteran lifters. I would like to add health reasons to my list for not juicing too…i just havent seen any serious reasons other than growth and infertility as to why it would be more dangerous for me at 18 to juice than for me at 21 to juice.
This study is done of giving OT to teenagers in the former GDR (East Germany). About halfway through the study is the list of sides. Note that (1) girls suffered much more than boys (2) the doses were actually quite low,
often 10 mg/ed or less.
Turinabol was extensively researched and used by over 10,000 young athletes. Some are now suing, because of the permanent sides. As a male, the sides are fairly minimal, but remember that this is one of the mildest steroids there is.
Hello, i have ordered Methyl masterdrol and methyl 1-P. I am wondering what would be the best PCT for a man like me coming off of a cycle of this, I am 140 6’. and is this even a safe way to bulk i don’t plan to take a dose over 10 MG per day. because of the sides i have heard of.
plz help
This study is done of giving OT to teenagers in the former GDR (East Germany). About halfway through the study is the list of sides. Note that (1) girls suffered much more than boys (2) the doses were actually quite low,
often 10 mg/ed or less.
Turinabol was extensively researched and used by over 10,000 young athletes. Some are now suing, because of the permanent sides. As a male, the sides are fairly minimal, but remember that this is one of the mildest steroids there is. [/quote]
HH, our political differences aside, I have a question:
You’ve raved about Superdrol and said you experienced little-to-no sides.
Have you really experienced no lower back pumps at all?
[quote]warhamster87 wrote:
Hello, i have ordered Methyl masterdrol and methyl 1-P. I am wondering what would be the best PCT for a man like me coming off of a cycle of this, I am 140 6’. and is this even a safe way to bulk i don’t plan to take a dose over 10 MG per day. because of the sides i have heard of.
plz help
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At 140 lb, you don’t need anything but food. Lots of it.
[quote]warhamster87 wrote:
Hello, i have ordered Methyl masterdrol and methyl 1-P. I am wondering what would be the best PCT for a man like me coming off of a cycle of this, I am 140 6’. and is this even a safe way to bulk i don’t plan to take a dose over 10 MG per day. because of the sides i have heard of.
plz help
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The pros on here will ask for your age, weight, diet, stuff like that. At 6’ 140, they’ll tell you to buy a lot of Grow! and eat a lot of food before taking MM. If you’re a teen, they’ll flame you a lot.
Anyway, assuming you are a responsible adult, spend a week taking Hawthorn, Milk Thistle, CoQ. Begin taking MM after that week, while continuing to take the above. After 3 weeks, stop the MM and do some PCT. Also, drink a boatload of water.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Even a very mild anabolic like Turinabol plays havoc with young people’s bodies. Gyno, liver damage, PERMANENT acne,…
This study is done of giving OT to teenagers in the former GDR (East Germany). About halfway through the study is the list of sides. Note that (1) girls suffered much more than boys (2) the doses were actually quite low,
often 10 mg/ed or less.
Turinabol was extensively researched and used by over 10,000 young athletes. Some are now suing, because of the permanent sides. As a male, the sides are fairly minimal, but remember that this is one of the mildest steroids there is.
HH, our political differences aside, I have a question:
You’ve raved about Superdrol and said you experienced little-to-no sides.
Have you really experienced no lower back pumps at all?
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Harriss,
When I first went up to 20 mg/ed, my back did tighten up somewhat. No killer pumps like other guys talk about; but I’m 6’7", 285 so size may be a factor. My blood pressure shot up, which made me cut the dose back to 10. Next time, I’ll start Hawthorn, Celery Seed about a week before a Superdrol cycle to keep it in check. I still feel good on 10, but my strength leveled out and I lost that ‘kill these f’in weights’ attitude. Also will do the Liver protectants as well.
Political differences are cool. If we all thought the same, how GD boring would that be?
Nobody should take their political fights outside that forum.
You two are more the same than you realize.
I did not hear about the plan for PCT for the 6’ 140 user. I echo the statement that food is what he needs. Any superdrol gains now would most likely dissapear soon afterward.
I recommend this guy get another 10-20 lbs before jumping into use.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Nobody should take their political fights outside that forum.
You two are more the same than you realize.
I did not hear about the plan for PCT for the 6’ 140 user. I echo the statement that food is what he needs. Any superdrol gains now would most likely dissapear soon afterward.
I recommend this guy get another 10-20 lbs before jumping into use.[/quote]
10-20? The dude’s 6 feet tall! He’d need to gain 30 pounds just to be called stringbean.
I guarantee this is one of those guys getting, at most, 2000 calories a day and claiming he has a fast metabolism.
Who here has cycled superdrol with prostanozol, and who has cycled it with phera-plex. I’d like to get your thoughts.
I went in to have my blood presure taken 4 days after taking 20mg a day of SD, and it was 156 over 100. Totally unheard of for me. But, I was running 75mg a day of prostan on that day. What I’m wondering is,how much of this is attributed to the prostan? If I ran a second cycle, how much could I cut that down with phera-plex? Just want some thoughts.
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
Who here has cycled superdrol with prostanozol, and who has cycled it with phera-plex. I’d like to get your thoughts.
I went in to have my blood presure taken 4 days after taking 20mg a day of SD, and it was 156 over 100. Totally unheard of for me. But, I was running 75mg a day of prostan on that day. What I’m wondering is,how much of this is attributed to the prostan? If I ran a second cycle, how much could I cut that down with phera-plex? Just want some thoughts.[/quote]
I’ve stacked phera-plex with Superdrol. Am currently at the end of week two of PCT and have retained all gains and strength continues to go up. I’m gonna do a full writeup on it for everyone when all’s said and done. Any particular Q’s you have on the stack go ahead and PM me.
[quote]Soldierslim wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Who here has cycled superdrol with prostanozol, and who has cycled it with phera-plex. I’d like to get your thoughts.
I went in to have my blood presure taken 4 days after taking 20mg a day of SD, and it was 156 over 100. Totally unheard of for me. But, I was running 75mg a day of prostan on that day. What I’m wondering is,how much of this is attributed to the prostan? If I ran a second cycle, how much could I cut that down with phera-plex? Just want some thoughts.
I’ve stacked phera-plex with Superdrol. Am currently at the end of week two of PCT and have retained all gains and strength continues to go up. I’m gonna do a full writeup on it for everyone when all’s said and done. Any particular Q’s you have on the stack go ahead and PM me.
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Would like to read your writeup!
I have trouble eating enough. Man, I’m on 5500 cals/day and it seems like all I do is eat. Thank T-Nation for Grow!
I am currently on my second week of PCT of a Superdrol only cycle of 10/20/20. I was also using CW’s “Waterbury method” for my training. Here are my results:
height: 6’0"
weight: 207 to 223
bf: 12% to 13%
major lifts:
BP 3 rep max: 255 to 285
Squat 3RM: 265 to 295 (ATG close stance, 2 partially torn miniscus)
Chin ups 3RM: 15 lbs to 20 lbs (keep in mind this is with the extra body weight as well)
i experienced little to no sides and my back tightened up a tad. i have actually had worse sides in PCT then i did on cycle and my back feels tighter now. i am also haveing cramps but nothing too severe. i am keeping all gains in PCT if anyone wants my PCT regiment let me know. Overall i give this supp a 8/10. like i said, if anyone wants details just ask away.
I’d be interested to hear what your pct was like Trailer. I assume you used nolvadex since you rec’d it to me. I still have yet to try my SD. It’s in the cupboard, burning a hole right through it, waiting to get out. But alas, I have to get my weaknesses worked out before I do it, hence the 8 weeks to monster shoulders I’m doing now, complements of CW and AC. Anyhow, please fill me in on your details such as pct and nutrition intake during and post cycle. Thanks.
