Has anybody heard or tried Rock hard Grranite?? It claims to be exactly same a s superdrol (Methasteron?: 10mg) Thanks…
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[quote]InCorporeSano wrote:
marcoleman wrote:
I’m 6’ 0", I weigh 260 lbs., with 27% body fat, and I’m looking to really slim down alot, I’d like to get down to 210 lbs. fast. A friend of mine is a trainer, and he suggested that I start taking noxplod, isopure, glutamine, multivitamins, and b-complex… He also suggests a routine of 30-40 minutes of cardio, then moving to moderate weight & high reps for each muscle, then after a few weeks, start a cycle of methyl-masterdrol. This is supposed to make you achieve extreme lean muscle mass growth over a short period of time. The problem is, I have no idea what I’m doing… Any suggestions???
Your friend is a douche. Hopefully no one pays him for his “training”, since the advice he gave you is piss-poor at best and downright dangerous in reality. Don’t go NEAR prohormones or AAS until you get your diet and training in check. Clearly if you think “high rep” training is a good idea you need to do some reading…pick a Chad Waterbury program, follow Berardi’s “7 Habits”, eat your vegetables, and watch the fat come off. [/quote]
I appreciate the advice, I thought high reps were good for losing fat and cutting up, was I wrong?
[quote]djb wrote:
Has anybody heard or tried Rock hard Grranite?? It claims to be exactly same a s superdrol (Methasteron?: 10mg) Thanks…
B.
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Methasteron is Methasteron.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
djb wrote:
Has anybody heard or tried Rock hard Grranite?? It claims to be exactly same a s superdrol (Methasteron?: 10mg) Thanks…
B.
Methasteron is Methasteron.[/quote]
Nice ! I didn’t know that!Well Did you actually try the product ,cause i was asking anybody if they did.So how was yor cycle exactly same results as sd???
[quote]marcoleman wrote:
I appreciate the advice, I thought high reps were good for losing fat and cutting up, was I wrong?
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Yes, you are wrong. Like I said-- Berardi for nutrition, Waterbury for training.
[quote]djb wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
djb wrote:
Has anybody heard or tried Rock hard Grranite?? It claims to be exactly same a s superdrol (Methasteron?: 10mg) Thanks…
B.
Methasteron is Methasteron.
Nice ! I didn’t know that!Well Did you actually try the product ,cause i was asking anybody if they did.So how was yor cycle exactly same results as sd???
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I never tried it. I looked it up, but there were no links to be found. Best to avoid that stuff. There are still some good PH’s out there that are less toxic.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
djb wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
djb wrote:
Has anybody heard or tried Rock hard Grranite?? It claims to be exactly same a s superdrol (Methasteron?: 10mg) Thanks…
B.
Methasteron is Methasteron.
Nice ! I didn’t know that!Well Did you actually try the product ,cause i was asking anybody if they did.So how was yor cycle exactly same results as sd???
I never tried it. I looked it up, but there were no links to be found. Best to avoid that stuff. There are still some good PH’s out there that are less toxic.[/quote]
Nice! Well atleast i have a nice guy like you point me in the "right direction!Any suggestions??
hey guys, just wanted to give u some feedback about my experience with masterdrol, and i was looking for suggestion’s on my next cycle.
I started the cycle in the summer which wasn’t the best time with baseball and partying, but that’s besides the point. While i was on it i can’t say that i worked out everyday or nearly as much as i should of but still had great results.
I had the 90 capsule bottle, and took a pill in the mourning, middle of the day and before bed, at the same time i was taking liver-rx, and i took that in the mourning and before bed with the masterdrol. My size increased dramatically, and complements all the time.
Before: Flat bench 225 x 2
After: Flat Bench 225 x 7, 265 x 2
That’s with not working out that much and benching the first couple weeks with the most sore arm in the world (pitcher).
Now, as a post cycle i took 2 bottles of 6 oxo. 2 days after i was done my MMD, i took 6 caps before bed of the oxo for the first bottle, and then 3 before bed for the rest of the 2nd bottle.
Side effects: While on MMD, the classic “Roid Rage” wasn’t to bad, but defiently noticable. Noticed more bacne while on the OXO then MMD. And testies shrunk a little.
What is your guys opinion on this? And
I was wondering a better way to do my next cycle.
Thank You.
I took legal gears methyl masterdrol back in july i loved it i saw great improvements i jumped 10 on my bench each week but after my cycle i had jaundice and lost 40 lbs in 4 weeks, i almost had to get a liver transplant. so please use caution with methyl masterdrol my hematologist told me that the university of boston has done a study on it and there are 6 other cases like mine
i have used MM before and experienced good gains with it, about 20lbs in the 3-4 weeks that i took it. however, afterwards, i did get some minor gyno. my nipples arent big and puffy, but there are small cysts underneath each of them now. these showed up a month or two afterwards. while they are not noticeable looking at my nipples, they do hurt when the nipple is pressed on.
so, i suppose i am wondering if there is anything besides surgery that could clear this up. also, if i were to take something similar to MM again, what is the PCT product that prevents gyno. i thought that i was going to be ok with formadrol xtreme, as thats what was recommended by the company, but i guess we can see how that worked out…
This is why people are always saying this “prohormone” such as MM, Superdrol,halodrol gave them gyno because they were using stuff like formadrol and all the likes of it.
If they would’ve use real pct you wouldn’t hear problems of gyno
[quote]TinYrob wrote:
i have used MM before and experienced good gains with it, about 20lbs in the 3-4 weeks that i took it. however, afterwards, i did get some minor gyno. my nipples arent big and puffy, but there are small cysts underneath each of them now. these showed up a month or two afterwards. while they are not noticeable looking at my nipples, they do hurt when the nipple is pressed on.
so, i suppose i am wondering if there is anything besides surgery that could clear this up. also, if i were to take something similar to MM again, what is the PCT product that prevents gyno. i thought that i was going to be ok with formadrol xtreme, as thats what was recommended by the company, but i guess we can see how that worked out…
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You need to use a SERM (Nolva, Clomid, etc) for PCT. The supplemental AI’s won’t cut it.
What are some good PH’s that work really well and are less toxic. Like half of my football team are planning on doing 2 cycles of Masterdrol through off season. I dont really want to do it but i might have to try somthing if they all pass me and i loose my starting job. I know you guys are gonna bash me for being 18 but all i need is advice so please dont run me down.
#1 Masterdrol is a steroid not a PH.
#2 Do a google search for Phera-Plex…Its a steroid but less harsh than Superdrol or Masterdrol. Phera-Plex IS more than 1.5 times more androgenic than Masterdrol, you’ll be happy with the resluts and if you do your research, sides can be kept at bay or maybe even none at all.
go ahead and take the masterdrol. i have taken it for two cycles. none of the side effects have really taken a big affect. I took milk thistle when i was taken masterdrol. i experienced huge gains from it. for a post cycle i took novedex.
I finished a cylce of Methyl Masterdrol during the summer. I performed the first four weeks of my cycle (I am a power-lifter) completely clean not even any protein and these were my lifts and size…
Flat Bench (before)-335
Squat (before)- 300 just got over knee surgery.
Deadlift (before)- 400
Power Clean (before) - 225
Height 6'2
Weight 221
Body Fat 21%
After the first four weeks of my clean part of the cycle i started 4 weeks of MM and then the next 6 weeks was Formadrol and Milk Thistle etc. These were my strength totals at the complete end of my Power Cycle
Flat Bench (pause press) 395
Squat (pause) 480
Deadlift 615
Power Clean 320
Weight went to 255 while my BF went to 14%. MM is good stuff the only side effect i had was the typical "Roid Rage" which wasnt that bad in the first place and when I did cardio I had unbearable shin splints. Other than that i did get zits on my arms but after the post cycle they all went away and the horrible shin splints went away as well. It is a great supplement but remember whenever you take a supplement like MM you are putting yourself at risk... make sure you take it right!
Wassup people…im new at this ,but i just want to know couple things ,
1st i just started working out .should i start taking masterdrol …or wait .?
what side effects does it have ?
whats the proper way to use it.
is it worth taking ,i dont wanna wind up in the hospital …
DON’T use it.
How old are you?
You should concentrate on eating big and lifting heavy, then in a few years try the real stuff if you want to. Generally pills are not good for the liver, blood pressure and cholesterol. Young kids usually ignore this and then end up having fatty tits after their long methyl cycle with no PCT.
I have a ? for all you EXPERIENCED guys.
I have been training for about 6 years. I started out 5’8 and 150 lbs naturally. After my first year I began to level off regardless of intake and routine. At that time I decided to use a cycle of MAG-10! After completeing the cycle as SAFELY as possible with PCT and etc etc.
I weighed in at about 180lbs! Needless to say I looked GREAT! Ikept most of my gains throught the months. But alas, a time came where some things came up and I could not work out for about 6-8 months and I lost most of what I worked so hard to achieve. I dropped abck to my normal weight and shape.
I have been training again for the past few years and again I am finding myself “topping off”. I always eat big, with no fast food or junk and I work out regularly and switch routines etc. etc.
With this in mind I have decided to take another and prob my last cycle of something. After doing research and reading countless reviews of supps I have finally decided that I believe MM is the one for me. I would most likely stack it with something the likes of Methyl 1-p, Alpha etc. etc. I would of course be using this with ALL the correct supps, herbs and so forth to complete this cycle as safely as possible. That is not my question here. My question is this:
I have for a long time had some junk around my mid section that I have never been able to burn away regardless of intake, workout, cardio routine etc. I want to do a high cardio routine with a Burning Agnet, something i have not done before as I alwasy prefer to be all natural.
Would I be better off doing this cut and burn before I take my cycle or should I wait until after my cycle and PCT then cut? As stated I am all natural so I don’t know alot about the particulars of the best orders in which to use supps.
Also if there is a better supp/stack that you think might suit my needs that perhaps might yeild equal/better gains with less sides please give me your input as I am open minded on the subject. Since I have made up my mind and some things are becoming increasingly hard to locate I would be interested in doing this and starting my self on pre-treatment asap.
Thanks Guys!
By the way, from training the past few years I now weigh about 165 instead of 150. But as mentioned I am having trouble getting passed this 165 regardless of intake or routine.
Check out the revised versions of the massive eating articles that Dr Berardi did way back when MAG-10 came out. He mentions a study that was done on the cutting before bulking subject. It suggests that the leaner that you are the beginning o fa bulking cycle, the more likely you are to gain more lean muscle and less fat then if you start the cycle with a higher BF%.
None of that crap is available anymore except for the occasional bottle on ebay but the prices are high enough that you might as well just go with the real stuff. Even if you decided to just do an oral cycle, a moderate cycle wouldn’t be any harder on your liver then that methylated stuff.
Now when you say that eat big, do you know how many calories you are eating or do you just feel like you eat a lot? I know a lot of people who told me that they eat a ton of food but when they finally take my advice and calculate what they actually eat it’s often no where close to what they thought or what they need to gain weight.
[quote]Tranzlogic wrote:
I have a ? for all you EXPERIENCED guys.
I have been training for about 6 years. I started out 5’8 and 150 lbs naturally. After my first year I began to level off regardless of intake and routine. At that time I decided to use a cycle of MAG-10! After completeing the cycle as SAFELY as possible with PCT and etc etc.
I weighed in at about 180lbs! Needless to say I looked GREAT! Ikept most of my gains throught the months. But alas, a time came where some things came up and I could not work out for about 6-8 months and I lost most of what I worked so hard to achieve. I dropped abck to my normal weight and shape.
I have been training again for the past few years and again I am finding myself “topping off”. I always eat big, with no fast food or junk and I work out regularly and switch routines etc. etc.
With this in mind I have decided to take another and prob my last cycle of something. After doing research and reading countless reviews of supps I have finally decided that I believe MM is the one for me. I would most likely stack it with something the likes of Methyl 1-p, Alpha etc. etc. I would of course be using this with ALL the correct supps, herbs and so forth to complete this cycle as safely as possible. That is not my question here. My question is this:
I have for a long time had some junk around my mid section that I have never been able to burn away regardless of intake, workout, cardio routine etc. I want to do a high cardio routine with a Burning Agnet, something i have not done before as I alwasy prefer to be all natural.
Would I be better off doing this cut and burn before I take my cycle or should I wait until after my cycle and PCT then cut? As stated I am all natural so I don’t know alot about the particulars of the best orders in which to use supps.
Also if there is a better supp/stack that you think might suit my needs that perhaps might yeild equal/better gains with less sides please give me your input as I am open minded on the subject. Since I have made up my mind and some things are becoming increasingly hard to locate I would be interested in doing this and starting my self on pre-treatment asap.
Thanks Guys!
By the way, from training the past few years I now weigh about 165 instead of 150. But as mentioned I am having trouble getting passed this 165 regardless of intake or routine.[/quote]