[?]highly recommended EQ with M1T. I started M1T today and was wondering how much EQ to take? I plan on taking M1T for 4 weeks (10mg/day). I have about 20ml of EQ left from a previews cycle. What’s your recomendation? and should I be taking Anti-E with it? thanks.
I’ve been using M1T from Gaspari Nutrition for 1 week at 20mg per day. I’ve never used any AAS, but done many cycles of Mag-10 double dose (never felt anything from single dose Mag-10. I’m currently in prep for a bodybuilding comp on May 1, 2004. As far as my impression of effectiveness of this stuff…it’s been unreal. I’ve been on about 1800 cals per day and I do 40 min cardio every morning in addtion to my weight traing in the evenings. I weighed 209 when i started and I’m 213 today. Pumps are mind blowing. Veins are popping out everywhere. Strength is through the roof. The side effects are as others have mentioned: extreme lethargy, some nausea, dark urine, feel like i’m sort of getting sick, but not unbearable. No hairloss or gyno, but i don’t think I’m prone to either of those anyway. I was very lean when i started taking M1T (4-5% bf) so it was easy to visually notice the benefits. I may drop the dosage back to 10mg. I’ve also got some Methyl-D from Gaspari nutrtion that I plan to switch to next week. If you can handle the sides I would recommend this stuff for short durations only. Gotta go take a nap now.
hey space monkey everyone i have talked to about this stuff says to add some 4AD and most of the sides should go away almost instantly and beside since it is a diffrent mollecule you should see even more gains. Just my 2cent.
DA
Hey all Advise please:
Ok, fellas the reason behind my below plan is that I have “read” certain people doing sust and deca for like 8 weeks and using liquid clomid and liquid nolva for Post Cycle Recovery. My bet is that this below cycle isnt as strong as the sust, deca one and this new Formadrol is supposed to be comparable to clomid and nolva and its over the counter.
M1T 10mg first day and 20mg ed after for 1-4 weeks.
4AD 250mg first day and 500mg ed for 1-4 weeks.
1,4AD 50mg first day and 100mg ed for 1-4 weeks.
NO2 and Creatine at 2 scoops ed for 3-6 weeks
Formadrol V2:
6 Caps per day week 5
4 Caps per day week 6
3 Caps per day week 7
2 Caps per day week 8
ANimal M-Test: 2 packs ed for 5-6 weeks.
ANimal Pak: 1 pak ed for 1-8 weeks.
If I feel messed up Ill start formadrol and animal mtest early and if that dont work Ill either drop m1t down to 10mg ed or stop all together.
ANy reason anyone thinks I should add 6oxo to the mix?
ANy Suggestions?
I started at 5mg a day then worked up to 20mg for 2 weeks. No effect whatsoever; no sides, no gains (strength or weight), no losses - and I upped my calories by 600 a day. So my question for the experienced users is this: should I up the dose on my next cycle to say, 30 mg? or move on to something else? I think I mistakenly believed that lighter weight lifters (like me, at 150) would require a smaller dose. Is it possible that for some physiologically reason my body requires a higher dose than average? Thanks for any replies. Hope I don’t come off as too much of an idiot.
No you should have noticed something!
I’d think the only obvious conclusion is that you weren’t taking M-1-T. What brand were you using?
Sometimes people just don’t respond to certain compounds. 20mgs is a pretty hefty dose for a guy your size. I’m 6’ and around 215 and i found 10-15mgs enough to gain and keep about 12 pounds in 3 weeks of not very strict dieting. You can try the 30mgs, but by then the sides might be kicking in pretty hardcore. Actually my recommendation would be to start your next cycle at 20 and then see how you respond and add on if necessary. Hope this helps
I used Higher Power’s M1T. Possibly not a good brand?
I haven’t seen people talking about any m1t batches being bunk like methyl-d has been so maybe you’re a non-responder or the dosage was too low for whatever reason. Like i said before, try starting at 20 and go from there. But a guy your size shouldn’t need any more then 30mgs tops. Have you tried other phs/aas? If so how did you react to those?
i was wondering if anyone has taken M1T by underground laboratories. i have the M1T but have not started the 4 week cycle yet. my height is 5’9 and my body weight is 148 lbs. i was wondering if the 5mg dose will produce any change in size. i am a first time user of any steroid type and am a litlle worried of the side effects. for those of u who are experienced please give me any feedback. thanks
I’ve used Underground Labs exclusively for m1t, 5mgs didn’t bring about too many changes for me. But then again im 6’ 215. So it may be ideal for you. I could tell I was on but physique wise there wasnt too much change. When I bumped it to ten that’s when the lethargy kicked in but it was still tolerable. Do you have any experience with other ph’s? M1T is pretty hardcore to be a first cycle if you haven’t. But if your mind is made up, it’s made up. The best thing to do with sides is to get some 4ad, preferably transdermal, to combat any sides you may encounter. And don’t be in such a rush to bump your dosage of m1t. So many people when they first try it get good results from 10mgs and then theyre like well if 10 is this good 20 must be sick!
Melo… now don’t take this the wrong way but, you are too small. I am 5’7 and have 20lbs on you. My bf% is dropping and my weight is staying the same I can almost see my six and I will just now be starting a cycle in another week or 2 heck I might even wait another month to finish cutting before I start the bulking again. Since you mentioned nothing about what you are going to be doing for recovery please do so and then also list BF% and how long you have been training for.
DA
JJ gave you some solid advice. If I were you at your size go with 5mg. See how it goes. Then if need be a week or so down the line move to ten.
Phill
Nice… We have people who are 148 and 150 pounds using M1T. I’m going to guess they are under 21, don’t have their diet dialed in, and only work Chest and arms.
Either way, I used 5mg per day while dieting and it worked amazing. I drop 5 pounds of fat and gained 3 pounds of muscle in an 18-day period. Several people at the gym totally notice the visual difference while I was on.
I would not go over 10mg if I were those two gentlemen. As for 30mg and seeing no results. Either you’re a non-respondent, or the product is bunk. I’m leaning towards the latter.
Thanks for the advice guys…and no, I haven’t used any AAS in the past. And just for the record, my diet has been dialed in for quite some time and I do full body workouts. I was sitting at a bodyweight of 120 this time last year (now 150) so I can’t be doing everything wrong - and I’m 26. I probably should have mentioned this before but I started a new job last month that requires intense physical labor all day. While my calorie range was 3000 - 3200 while on M1T, I’m starting to come to the conclusion it may need to be much higher to receive any benefits.
Higher than heck did you even read the PM I sent. It had nothing to do with your dosage, especially since you have never done a cycle before. It was your brand. Higher power ,like I told you in the PM, is crap I got absolutly nothing from it is well in the way of gains. All I got was lethargy and depressed for a few days. Try a diffrent brand at 5 maybe 10mgs ed. This stuff is powerful as heck. If gear vets on this board can get 5 or more pounds a week from 10mgs a day than, you who’s weight is nothing should gain tons if your diet is as good as you say.
DA
looking back maybe I sent the pm to melo.
If that is the case sorry for the flame but, please still listen to what I said and stop buying that cheap crap.
DA
Makes sense that its a shit brand. Even on a isocalorific diet you would still gain strength and prob some water weight too.
Thanks Dark - I just got the PM tonight and I have to agree with you. Thanks again Creed and everyone else. I’m gonna give another brand a go within the next couple of weeks. I’ll let you know if there’s any difference.
would Mag-10 work as a good stack
with M1-t?