Week 2 dropped my wieght down to 240, but rised back to 244. I think it was fat loss. My lifts all jumped. I felt stronger as the cycle went on. I added over 2 inches to my thighs and chest since week 1. So I’d say most of the size increases happen in week 2. Weight and strength happen week 1 w/ strength increasing throughout. Monday was day 1 off. No weight loss, but my strength was dramatically lower.
There have been others that have reported using 4AD to negate the lathargy. Anyone try this yet?
Anything new to report on the M1T?
Well 13 days post cycle (20mg M-1-T, 20mg D-bol) and I’ve dropped 2kg (1kg fat)and I think the rest must be water. But I am on calorie restricted diet and haven’t lost any strength in fact I continue to get stronger.
Suffered no recovery issues except I notice a general muscle soreness and feel a little overtrained so I’ve dropped down my volume a tad (due to diet as well).
Creed,
It sounds like you had a really good experience with M1T.
Pretty damn good for an oral, eh (M1T)?
Any other orals that you would consider after using M1T?
Well I’ve only ever used M-1-T and D-bol!!
Had probs with d-bol ‘pumps’ and to be honest I know d-bol is really popular (for pumps espec.) but the strength increases were IMO better from the M-1-T. But I did like the way d-bol made you feel ‘alive’ and killed the lethargy probs.
I’m on my third day of using a very inexpensive, but so-far-effective brand (IMO) of methyl 1-test. I’m using two 5 mg. doses per day.
Now here’s the clincher: Since day 1, I’ve had a tremendous increase in libido and energy, which seems to run counter to the reported experiences of a vast majority of other users. Of course, I’m 47 y/o, so who knows wtf is going on in my ol’ body. I’ve got a couple of theories floating around in my head, but I’d be interested in hearing from others on this topic.
Also, on day two, both my poundages and reps increased nicely from a workout routine I’ve been using for about four weeks, but I believe it’s too early in my cycle to attribute the strength gains solely to the M1T.
Cardinal,
I’d say it’s the m-1-t. I felt an almost immediate strength increase and never felt the lethargy most people complained about.
I’m going on cycle 2 on Monday. It’ll be week 2 of the quattro dynamo workout, so we’ll see if I get better results from this workout or my last one.
I figured I’d throw my two cents in here as I just finished an M-1-T cycle.
I did 10 mg ED in two doses with food. I ended up gaining 10 lbs, 8 of which was LBM but damn did I eat. I just finished 2 days ago so I can’t speak for what I’ll keep just yet.
Lethargy: Hit me on day 2 and kept up (still today). All I want to do is sleep, for the last two weeks I’ve been getting 12 hours a night and it’s killed my productivity. Still, that’s not a big issue and the feeling vanished as soon as the workouts started.
BP: Diastolic went up slightly (10mmHg) but the systolic stayed the same. I was tested every day and by day 5 I had returned to normal.
Appetite: Certainly no suppression of this. I’ve been eating everything I can get my hands on. Even my cat was starting to get worried. . .
Strength: Set a load of PRs by 10 or 20 lbs but nothing serious. Still, I’m not complaining in only 2 weeks.
In terms of previous usage I’ve done 1 cycle of Mag-10 and that’s it. I used the Underground labs version of M-1-T.
I’ll definetly use the stuff again, though next time I’m going to try 20 mg ED. Honestly though after that I’m thinking of giving a try to 200mg 1-test-cyp EOD stacked with 300 mg of 4-AD-cyp EOD.
STU
Sturat~
Nice results there! From what I’ve been hearing, you may have been able to keep the lethargy at bay by stacking some 4-ad in there.
Any use while dieting?
IMO I would say it would be good for dieting.
I started diet on day 7 and loss no muscle mass or strength (got stronger). Appetitite is a little reduced too.
I started M1T @ 15mg/d and 4ad transdermal on the 19th of feb. so far no bad sides that I can tell and definatly no loss of appetite. Havn’t noticed any positive changes yet either.
I stayed on M1t untill 2/27 for a total of 100 mg. Gained apx 9 pounds fat and muscle I don’t seem to be bloated any though. The first few days I didn’t notice any sides. But then after taking a pill it would be like I took a sleeping pill it was hard to stay awake this feeling only lasted a little while though. I didn’t notice any hair loss or shedding above normal. I was using Nizoral shampoo and have been for several months. I’m still taking the 4aderm I put some dmso in it. The only side I’m noticing is oily fascial skin. No shrinkage in the balls. I’m taking a few drops of liquid fem a day also. Had the best leg workout I’ve had in quite a while but the upper body workouts have been better so who knows. I’m going to slim down this next month and then I’ll be able to tell how much weight gain was muscle or just fat. Then I’ll have my final review of this. Right now I’d say I’m not impressed and don’t plan on doing another cycle of M1T. Oh yeah my lower back was hurting but I can’t say this was due to the M1T I’ve had this problem for years and I did have a heavy leg day.
Bigarrows post made me think of something that i noticed with M-1-T.
I did 2 2week cycles 10mg/day first time and 20mg/day with 20mg/day D-bol as well. The second cycle caused me almost crippling back spasms and i put it down to the D-bol, BUT I’m currently on 20mg D-bol a day and not experiencing any back problems. So my conclusion is that M-1-T was also responsible for my back pain or at least exarcerbated the effects of the D-bol.
im going to do a stack of tren, test eth, and dbol or m-1-t. for you guys who have used both, which do you think would be more beneficial. i have done neither of the 2, so im not sure which one to use. im leaning toward the dbol (reforvit b)
I would use the d-bol, it makes you feel good and the strength gains are pretty similar. Maybe the M-1-T has the slight edge here but the lethargy is not a good point.
I do think that M-1-T causes water retention as weight gains happen so quickly and then fade just as fast but no obvious bloating.
This is my final review of M1T. I was off M1T for 5 days while still taking 4ad transdermal and feeling better I decided to try the M1T again, going against my gut feeling. The first day @ 10Mg 3/4/04 was ok, good workout and no sides , then today, again 10mg, bad headach and feeling like shit. So finally I did what my gut was telling me to do, I flushed the rest of the bottle. My weight is still up but strength hasn’t changed any. Maybe the strength will go up once this gets out of my system. My arms do look better and are bigger but since I’m not any stronger it’s kinda useless to me. With a 5 rating being tops I’d give this stuff a 1.5 maybe a 2 ?
Wow, this is great info guys, does anyone know a website or article where I can read about M-1-T?
I have heard you all talk about lethargy and poor appetite but what about gyno or hair loss? are these even possible while on this and has anyone experienced this?
Also if anyone know of a reputable brand for oral pills? if so PLEASE PM me, I cant wait to try this stuff out.
I just bought Legal Gear’s M1T and Masterdol for future use before the fda bans everything on the shelves. I am just wondering though, I had bought the masterdol to use after the M1T. But do you think there would be any benefit of stacking the two together?
I’m comming off 3 days of 1-test just to kill my bottle, On Wed, I went back on m-1-t. I’m trying this 7-keto stuff to speed the process. I’m also on a cutting cycle for the next 2-4 weeks, so I’m only taking in about 200-230 g of carbs a day. I’ll check my weight on Mon, but I feel better on m-1-t than 1-test. Last Mon and Tue, I felt dead tired, but I fell like more normal super human self again. haha