If someone was trying to poke you in the face with metal hooks, when all you wanted to do was leave, you’d stop him too!!
Discuss?
Kind of funny, a sailor looses his hands fighting for freedom and free speech. Then assaults someone for speaking his mind. The fights on, lets try to get it right this time. Freedom means you can say anything as long as its not against the status quo. Just goes to show, you constantly have to fight for the right to be free.
[quote]streamline wrote:
Kind of funny, a sailor looses his hands fighting for freedom and free speech. Then assaults someone for speaking his mind. The fights on, lets try to get it right this time. Freedom means you can say anything as long as its not against the status quo. Just goes to show, you constantly have to fight for the right to be free.[/quote]
Freedom of speech means freedom from Government censorship. It doesn’t mean that decent people have to put up with a lot of ridiculous, insulting bullshit from every asshole who feels like getting on a soap box.
Kick that guys ass, Homer!!!
I think that Homer trying to claw the dude’s face is a little excessive. The dude was leaving and Homer went after him. In today’s world, he’d have done jail time. Fred, behind the counter, would have got jail too, and the store would have lost a shitload of money.
I think that’s part of the problem. Good men like Fred and Homer aren’t allowed to stand up for what’s right. Obviously the store ought to fire Fred, and maybe he should even spend a night in jail, but his life shouldn’t be totally fucked up for giving that guy a good smack on the jaw. I can’t blame Homer for being pissed at the guy for insulting the cause that he lost his hands and some of his friends gave their lives for.
So was the guy with the hooks a little jealous that the guy behind the counter has hands made of dynamite? Holy shit! LOL
Hooks in the face for expressing a political opinion…seems wrong. He didn’t insult Homer and his shipmates, just said that our leaders screwed 'em over. Many people say the same thing today WRT Iraq.
BTW: Fred, the guy who hops the counter, was a real hero in the movie — led his squadron on a run despite bleeding all over the place and in shock.
Often when one does not have the capacity to communicate with words the sense of frustration that it brings will lead to one to violent acts – which is why unsophisticated people make the best pawns.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Often when one does not have the capacity to communicate with words the sense of frustration that it brings will lead to one to violent acts – which is why unsophisticated people make the best pawns.[/quote]
They are also quite amusing to watch on internet forums.
That made me think of Magneto’s line in X-Men 3: “That’s why you send the pawns in first.”
Meh, I can see it from both sides of the coin. The opinionated man with a grasp of the big picture, and the handless man that fought and suffered. Mr. Opinionated should have saved it for the ears of the people playing chess, not the pawns who suffered as a result, of their very present hands.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Often when one does not have the capacity to communicate with words the sense of frustration that it brings will lead to one to violent acts – which is why unsophisticated people make the best pawns.[/quote]
That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Please explain.
[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Meh, I can see it from both sides of the coin. The opinionated man with a grasp of the big picture, and the handless man that fought and suffered. Mr. Opinionated should have saved it for the ears of the people playing chess, not the pawns who suffered as a result, of their very present hands. [/quote]
Which illustrates that the so-called sophisticates often aren’t nearly as savvy as they think they are…
[quote]nephorm wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
Meh, I can see it from both sides of the coin. The opinionated man with a grasp of the big picture, and the handless man that fought and suffered. Mr. Opinionated should have saved it for the ears of the people playing chess, not the pawns who suffered as a result, of their very present hands.
Which illustrates that the so-called sophisticates often aren’t nearly as savvy as they think they are…[/quote]
and thus are prone to getting hooks in their faces.
[quote]Weasel42 wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Often when one does not have the capacity to communicate with words the sense of frustration that it brings will lead to one to violent acts – which is why unsophisticated people make the best pawns.
That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Please explain.
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Unsophisticated people do not resist what other people tell them to do.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
Which illustrates that the so-called sophisticates often aren’t nearly as savvy as they think they are…[/quote]
Sophisticated people do not argue with unsophisticated people unless it is for entertainment purposes.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Weasel42 wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Often when one does not have the capacity to communicate with words the sense of frustration that it brings will lead to one to violent acts – which is why unsophisticated people make the best pawns.
That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Please explain.
Unsophisticated people do not resist what other people tell them to do.[/quote]
Unsophisticated people are also more prone to believe in moral absolutes, and that their own position (or their tribe’s, or their country’s, or their religion’s) is absolutely moral, and therefore absolutely right. More sophisticated people tend to also see the merits of the other side of the argument.
A combat soldier is not expected to question the political motivations or ramifications of his actions. His mission would suffer if he and his comrades started considering the enemy’s point of view. A diplomat, on the other hand must always consider his adversary’s position. This is why the Department of Defense and the State Department don’t get along.
In chess, the most powerful pieces are the ones that can move in all directions. The pawn’s ability to maneuver, however, is severely limited. He may only move forward, and may never retreat from the enemy… until he has reached the other side. By that time, of course, he is no longer a pawn.
It’s interesting to note that the movie in which this scene appeared was derided by one critic as being “a horse-drawn truckload of liberal schmaltz,” and that the guy who got punched out would, at the time, have been considered a conservative.
His position, in any case, was no different than the one held by General George Patton. I’d like to see Fred try to punch out “old Blood and Guts.”
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
His position, in any case, was no different than the one held by General George Patton. I’d like to see Fred try to punch out “old Blood and Guts.”[/quote]
If you get the chance to watch ‘Best Years of Our Lives’, you’ll see that Fred is an honest-to-God T-man. He has real balls. If he didn’t know it was Patton and Patton insulted him or whatnot, Fred would go after him.