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Yes I do, I just don’t need that much muscle damage. I have reached my limit of sustainable muscle hypertrophy many years ago. I don’t need a program for an 18 year old. I don’t need their diet makeup either.
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So, I would definitely say looking at people in their 80s or so would be a much better indication of what a type of exercise would do, as I feel like reaching 100+ or more is as much of a genetic lottery as anything - essentially just dodging all the various things that can happen to anyone over the course of a century - but here’s some 100+ year olds running really fast, haha
Here’s a 100 year old lady who falls 2 seconds into the race and then gets back up, starts over and beats the WR for a 100+ year old in the 100 meters.
There’s actually more videos than I expected. I actually used to work at a physical therapy clinic with a LOT of very old people - many 90+ year olds. Couple Holocaust survivors and a WW2 vet, even. I didn’t know much about their daily routines, but I can say the biggest thing I saw was just plain movement at that age. The ones who stopped moving - usually through a fall and an injury (often hip) - didn’t make it very long. The ones who were able to stay active and injury-free lived for a long time and looked younger. Of course - I can’t say what that activity is, but I can say none of the ones I saw were doing anything “high intensity”.
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Ok…the reason I asked is because you stated Darden 30-10-30 use 2 second eccentrics…
Just wasn’t sure if you forgot about the other two 30 seconds
First thing I agree with you on. Super slow is the best for attaining results, while minimizing injury and damage to the joints. On this current topic Hutchins also put out a book on heart health, which I will be reading soon
Please keep us informed
For what’s worth anecdotally, the people I see doing cardio (and even weight training) seem to be healthier than people who are not. I’m talking about people who stick with it. I think they are more health conscious in general; people exercising are eating better, less junk, lower calories, etc. Someone smoking two packs a day or with a BMI of 40 are not doing a lot of things right.
Who is more like to have a cardiac event?
Person A: 45 years old, 15% BF, exercises, eats fairly well, doesn’t smoke.
Person B: 45 years old, 35% BF, high sugar, poor HDL/LDL ratio, high C-Reactive protein, high blood pressure, couch potato, smokes, and drinks Coke all day?
You could even remove the exercise equation and get an answer, but just saying.
You’re correct. That comparison has NOTHING whatsoever to do with working out or metabolic conditioning. What was the point? That a fat pot smoker is mire likely to have a heart attack? Thanks
Properly performed strength training is equally or more effective for improving cardiovascular efficiency compared with steady state activity, and safer for both the joints and the heart, due to the greater venous return and cardiac perfusion (assuming proper breathing/avoiding valsalva’s maneuver).
“Cardio” is absolutely important. Fortunately if you strength train properly you don’t need to perform steady state activities for it.
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OK , here’s my question about cardio vs strength ;
Other than those who are just anti-strength training … which seems like there are plenty here … why wouldn’t a hard 30 minute weight training workout that has you huffing and puffing from the first set through the last , considered a decent cardio workout ?
I still go by one principle that Lesistner said and that is that the first set or exercise should set the stage for the rest of the workout and have you breathing hard and not quite catching your breath from that first set until the last. Taking 15-20 seconds rest between sets for 30 minutes will certainly do that to you … so what’s the problem with it ?
Add to that two hour walks after workouts and off days, I don’t see how much more you can ask some one to do.
I don’t see why taking just 15 seconds between sets that get you breathing heavily wouldn’t be good for you and taking your time between sets and getting your heavy breathing cardio later by swimming or whatever can work as well. I’ve done it all and now I prefer to take more time between sets so I can push harder and then get my heavy breathing on my erg at another time. 4 or 5 30 second all out sets gets me breathing like I might pass out if I do any more. I don’t say that’s the best way, I just prefer that .
Scott
I’m asking why isn’t a workout involving weights that gets you breathing hard for 30 minutes isn’t considered adequate cardio ?? If you ran, rode a bike, used a stair climber, rowing machine, etc for thirty minutes and got your heart rate and breathing up it would be considered cardio. What’s the difference if you did that using resistance exercises ?
I’m not talking about 3 sets of 5 reps and a three minute break in between sets. I’m talking 14-16 sets in about thirty minutes.
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And you undoubtedly believe in the Fairy God Mother, and Santa Claus!
Talk about uninformed opinions…only Nautilus aficionados from a bygone era believe your nonsense! CHristian Thibaudeau , Kenneth Jay, and Martin Gibala are far more informed than you! Perhaps you should read something from these real experts.
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Read Cardio Code
Kenneth Jay
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Santa denier spotted. Cuff him boys
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I think it is adequate cardio but I guess it depends on if you just want adequate cardio or the best possible cardio? I think the workout you described would produce adequate cardio.
Scott
My thoughts exactly!!
Scott
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This clip answered a lot of questions … thanks for posting it.
I was surprised that he listed kettle bell swings as an acceptable cardio exercise since there are stops and resetting that he said was important to avoid in cardio. So how long should someone swing a kettle bell ? When I tried KB swings I was doing it in ‘blocks’ of 40, 30, 20,10 for 100 swings with around 30-45 seconds between blocks. Every other workout I’d try and increase each block by 5 swings.
I wish he elaborated on how KB swings should be done to be considered a cardio workout. I cant imagine someone swinging a KB for 30 minutes .
You are welcome
Cardio Code is best cardiovascular conditioning information I have ever read! Kenneth Jay has a Doctorate degree in the field, unlike other uninformed opinions from non-credentialed people. The problem with HiT is that Arthur Jones once said things, and the rest are parrots of his writings. He was definitely wrong about cardiovascular training
Jay wrote a book called Viking Warrior Conditioning in which you do kb snatches for fifteen seconds, rest fifteen seconds, snatches with the other hand, then fifteen seconds of rest. Repeat for a total of forty minutes. As far as the number of snatches, there was a method of finding the starting number for fifteen seconds, but I forget what it was. Single arm Kb Swings could be used, as they are not as complicated technically as the kb snatch. Start with a number that you feel comfortable with and do your weak hand first then strong hand. I used a gymboss app on my ipad for the timing, worked well for me.
Someone ALWAYS has to say something first, then others follow and/or take credit. And to dismiss something because people have parroted is ignorant. To say your cite is the end all be all on cardio is absurd.