[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Shaving off callouses.[/quote]
Very sexy.
They don’t look bad.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
Dirty Tiger wrote:
This thread makes me want to paint my nails.
Yeah, me too, but I don’t have any. Between playing bass and lifting, my hands are pretty nasty, and I don’t want to emphasize it with nail polish.
Pics?
You asked, I deliver.
Nails.
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You growing them out b4 you paint them? Cut those things! lol
[quote]imhungry wrote:
Enjoy The Pain wrote:
Do real T-men wear nail polish?
Real “T-men” do whatever the fuck they want, and don’t care what people think.[/quote]
I was being sarcastic 
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
It’s called the feminization of society and it began as far back as Phil Donahue…
What’s intrinsically feminine about nail polish? Tribal peoples and ancient civilizations colored their bodies in various ways throughout history.
Now if we were only living in ancient times I would think that you had a good point. Since we don’t I think you are pretty much speaking out of your ass.
You see junior in our society it’s been women who have worn the nail polish for quite some time.
Ha ha…let me guess, you’re in college right?
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My point was this cannot be caused by the so-called feminization of society if it has been done for thousands of years, in all societies, including our own, it seems.
In our society there was a time when women dressed a certain way. Then they cut their hair short and started wearing pants. They must have been a bunch of butch dikes, right? Masculinization of society maybe? Good thing it’s not like that now.
Not in college actually. I do plan to join the Marine Corps in a about a year, however, but apparently I’d be in good company.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
When you have kids (if you don’t already), would you paint your sons room pink, paint his nails red, give him a dress and let him play with dolls, because you don’t believe all those things to be feminine?
I would if he wanted me to. If we were at the toy store, and he asked for a doll, I wouldn’t say ‘No way, kid. That’s queer shit’, I’d let him have a fucking doll if that’s what he wanted. If he wanted to paint his nails red, I’d let him. If he wanted to wear a dress, I’d ask why, and then I’d probably let him.
You’re assuming I would push my preferences (whatever they may be, I’m not really a fan of guys in dresses) on my children. I wouldn’t, I would let them decide how they want to look, what they want to play with, regardless of whether or not anyone else liked it. If it’s what he wants to do, why should I stop him? Because someone else thinks it’s gay?
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You should pass on your values to your children, it’s called being a father. Some times that means forcing them to do things they don’t want to, like eat their veggies, or go play outside.
Letting a little boy do those things you are talking about would be setting him up for some serious social handicaps later in life if nothing else (at least where I’m from, maybe you live in tribal Africa).
You sound like a guy that would let his kid spray paint his neighbor’s house because, “little Jimmy is just expressing himself”.
In western culture at least, saying “what makes nail polish feminine?” is about the same as “what make the womans bathroom feminine” (in Roman times there weren’t separate restrooms and there weren’t stalls either). Feminine and masculine are cultural concepts, unless you live in a different culture, painting your nails is feminine.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
When you have kids (if you don’t already), would you paint your sons room pink, paint his nails red, give him a dress and let him play with dolls, because you don’t believe all those things to be feminine?
I would if he wanted me to. If we were at the toy store, and he asked for a doll, I wouldn’t say ‘No way, kid. That’s queer shit’, I’d let him have a fucking doll if that’s what he wanted. If he wanted to paint his nails red, I’d let him. If he wanted to wear a dress, I’d ask why, and then I’d probably let him.
You’re assuming I would push my preferences (whatever they may be, I’m not really a fan of guys in dresses) on my children. I wouldn’t, I would let them decide how they want to look, what they want to play with, regardless of whether or not anyone else liked it. If it’s what he wants to do, why should I stop him? Because someone else thinks it’s gay?
You should pass on your values to your children, it’s called being a father. Some times that means forcing them to do things they don’t want to, like eat their veggies, or go play outside.
Letting a little boy do those things you are talking about would be setting him up for some serious social handicaps later in life if nothing else (at least where I’m from, maybe you live in tribal Africa).
You sound like a guy that would let his kid spray paint his neighbor’s house because, “little Jimmy is just expressing himself”.
In western culture at least, saying “what makes nail polish feminine?” is about the same as “what make the womans bathroom feminine” (in Roman times there weren’t separate restrooms and there weren’t stalls either). Feminine and masculine are cultural concepts, unless you live in a different culture, painting your nails is feminine. [/quote]
Passing on values and allowing your kids to make choices about things that affect little are two entirely different things. Where I’m from, nail polish is not a fucking value. I am not the least bit socially handicapped. Those who are socially maladjusted are the ones who seriously care about the color of my appendages.
If I sound like that guy, you sound like the guy who would call his kid a two-dollar faggot for looking at a bodybuilding magazine. We can both take this to extremes.
The only thing feminine about the women’s bathroom is that women go there to piss. Women also paint their nails. If a man pisses in a room, it’s a men’s bathroom. If a man paints his nails, it’s masculine to do so. Inanimate objects and spaces don’t dictate who I am, I do. I paint my nails and by doing so make it masculine. If anyone else is too insecure to be cool with that, I don’t care.
men: the new women
[quote]Enjoy The Pain wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Enjoy The Pain wrote:
Do real T-men wear nail polish?
Real “T-men” do whatever the fuck they want, and don’t care what people think.
I was being sarcastic ;)[/quote]
It’s cool.
I was being melodramatic.
What happened to the good old days where you could jsut call someone gay.
[quote]The Manthony wrote:
What happened to the good old days where you could jsut call someone gay.
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We got “politically correct”.
50 years ago, people knew how to handle themselves when they were insulted. nowdays everyone is so damn sensitive.
people should learn how to grow a pair.
its feminist values and ‘tolerance’ changing our society. im proud to be intolerant geez.
if this trend continues the world will be full of women and effeminate omega-males and ALL the women will complain that the cant find a real man… because they killed them by stifling our right to be assholes.
Gahhh dont get me started.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
Dirty Tiger wrote:
This thread makes me want to paint my nails.
Yeah, me too, but I don’t have any. Between playing bass and lifting, my hands are pretty nasty, and I don’t want to emphasize it with nail polish.
Pics?
You asked, I deliver.
Nails.
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They’re not that bad,actually…
especially for a lifter.
But you know what would really set them off?
Some nail varnish in a pinkish/light purple shade.
How about,say,I don’t know,Soft Violet Express Finish by Maybelline New York?
Dude,it dries from wet to set in less than 40 seconds,and has a nice pearlescent finish,oh my god,its soooooo lush!
it’s just divine!
Ahem…
Not that I know anything about that sort of thing,of course…you know,being a man and all…
Um,now I’m gonna go and drink a beer and watch some porn.
Proper lesbian porn with no naked guys in the way,yeah cos’ us real guys only watch lesbo porn…
Wow! When I started this thread I did not believe it would get so many replies.
I agree with Double Deuce. In our culture, mainstream western culture, painting your nails is a feminine act. We are not a tribal society.
I don’t see it as so bad if a openly gay guy paints his nails. They are gay. What creeps me out is allegedly straight guys, who paint their nails black. Icky
[quote]deanosumo wrote:
Wow! When I started this thread I did not believe it would get so many replies.
I agree with Double Deuce. In our culture, mainstream western culture, painting your nails is a feminine act. We are not a tribal society.
I don’t see it as so bad if a openly gay guy paints his nails. They are gay. What creeps me out is allegedly straight guys, who paint their nails black. Icky[/quote]
I have to know, where in NZ do you live that you’re seeing these freaks who paint their nails? I live in Wellington and don’t see that shit.
Although I hang around people in the construction industry so maybe that’s it.
Nathan Explosion. Often has black nails. It’s possible they just grow in that way because he’s so fucking metal.
FTW
[quote]The Manthony wrote:
What happened to the good old days where you could jsut call someone gay.
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What happened to the good old days when gay meant happy?
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
When you have kids (if you don’t already), would you paint your sons room pink, paint his nails red, give him a dress and let him play with dolls, because you don’t believe all those things to be feminine?
I would if he wanted me to. If we were at the toy store, and he asked for a doll, I wouldn’t say ‘No way, kid. That’s queer shit’, I’d let him have a fucking doll if that’s what he wanted. If he wanted to paint his nails red, I’d let him. If he wanted to wear a dress, I’d ask why, and then I’d probably let him.
You’re assuming I would push my preferences (whatever they may be, I’m not really a fan of guys in dresses) on my children. I wouldn’t, I would let them decide how they want to look, what they want to play with, regardless of whether or not anyone else liked it. If it’s what he wants to do, why should I stop him? Because someone else thinks it’s gay?
You should pass on your values to your children, it’s called being a father. Some times that means forcing them to do things they don’t want to, like eat their veggies, or go play outside.
Letting a little boy do those things you are talking about would be setting him up for some serious social handicaps later in life if nothing else (at least where I’m from, maybe you live in tribal Africa).
You sound like a guy that would let his kid spray paint his neighbor’s house because, “little Jimmy is just expressing himself”.
In western culture at least, saying “what makes nail polish feminine?” is about the same as “what make the womans bathroom feminine” (in Roman times there weren’t separate restrooms and there weren’t stalls either). Feminine and masculine are cultural concepts, unless you live in a different culture, painting your nails is feminine.
Passing on values and allowing your kids to make choices about things that affect little are two entirely different things. Where I’m from, nail polish is not a fucking value. I am not the least bit socially handicapped. Those who are socially maladjusted are the ones who seriously care about the color of my appendages.
If I sound like that guy, you sound like the guy who would call his kid a two-dollar faggot for looking at a bodybuilding magazine. We can both take this to extremes.
The only thing feminine about the women’s bathroom is that women go there to piss. Women also paint their nails. If a man pisses in a room, it’s a men’s bathroom. If a man paints his nails, it’s masculine to do so. Inanimate objects and spaces don’t dictate who I am, I do. I paint my nails and by doing so make it masculine. If anyone else is too insecure to be cool with that, I don’t care.[/quote]
How someone chooses to dress and carry themselves are values. I’m not saying not let your kids be who they are. I just don’t think a 9 year old yet has the capacity to make decisions about what he wears especially when there are gender identity issues involved. I wouldn’t let my child get his ears pierced that young either. Heck, I’m 25 and my GF still has to give me permission (Hah!).
My point with the bathroom reference was really just that you were using cultural references that I don’t think are applicable.
I have no problem with you painting your nails, nor do I think you are wrong to do it. You enjoy it, you like the way it looks, more power to you. That doesn’t change that I still think it’s feminine, because that’s what our culture dictates. However, I do agree that our culture unfairly faults men for being even the slightest bit feminine or just having emotions.
I hope I don’t think that about BBing mags, I happen to have a stack at home.
Painting your nails colors is completely gay.
People getting manicures doesn’t bother me but I still think its a waste of money and strange for a man. Men’s nails do not need to be polished either, thats like a man wearing clear lip gloss to me.
I know some men are really into it though and thats fine, including Ronnie Coleman.
I will never get a manicure, I’m fine with maintaining short nails myself.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
When you have kids (if you don’t already), would you paint your sons room pink, paint his nails red, give him a dress and let him play with dolls, because you don’t believe all those things to be feminine?
I would if he wanted me to. If we were at the toy store, and he asked for a doll, I wouldn’t say ‘No way, kid. That’s queer shit’, I’d let him have a fucking doll if that’s what he wanted. If he wanted to paint his nails red, I’d let him. If he wanted to wear a dress, I’d ask why, and then I’d probably let him.
You’re assuming I would push my preferences (whatever they may be, I’m not really a fan of guys in dresses) on my children. I wouldn’t, I would let them decide how they want to look, what they want to play with, regardless of whether or not anyone else liked it. If it’s what he wants to do, why should I stop him? Because someone else thinks it’s gay?
You should pass on your values to your children, it’s called being a father. Some times that means forcing them to do things they don’t want to, like eat their veggies, or go play outside.
Letting a little boy do those things you are talking about would be setting him up for some serious social handicaps later in life if nothing else (at least where I’m from, maybe you live in tribal Africa).
You sound like a guy that would let his kid spray paint his neighbor’s house because, “little Jimmy is just expressing himself”.
In western culture at least, saying “what makes nail polish feminine?” is about the same as “what make the womans bathroom feminine” (in Roman times there weren’t separate restrooms and there weren’t stalls either). Feminine and masculine are cultural concepts, unless you live in a different culture, painting your nails is feminine.
Passing on values and allowing your kids to make choices about things that affect little are two entirely different things. Where I’m from, nail polish is not a fucking value. I am not the least bit socially handicapped. Those who are socially maladjusted are the ones who seriously care about the color of my appendages.
If I sound like that guy, you sound like the guy who would call his kid a two-dollar faggot for looking at a bodybuilding magazine. We can both take this to extremes.
The only thing feminine about the women’s bathroom is that women go there to piss. Women also paint their nails. If a man pisses in a room, it’s a men’s bathroom. If a man paints his nails, it’s masculine to do so. Inanimate objects and spaces don’t dictate who I am, I do. I paint my nails and by doing so make it masculine. If anyone else is too insecure to be cool with that, I don’t care.
How someone chooses to dress and carry themselves are values. I’m not saying not let your kids be who they are. I just don’t think a 9 year old yet has the capacity to make decisions about what he wears especially when there are gender identity issues involved. I wouldn’t let my child get his ears pierced that young either. Heck, I’m 25 and my GF still has to give me permission (Hah!).
My point with the bathroom reference was really just that you were using cultural references that I don’t think are applicable.
I have no problem with you painting your nails, nor do I think you are wrong to do it. You enjoy it, you like the way it looks, more power to you. That doesn’t change that I still think it’s feminine, because that’s what our culture dictates. However, I do agree that our culture unfairly faults men for being even the slightest bit feminine or just having emotions.
I hope I don’t think that about BBing mags, I happen to have a stack at home.
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I’ve always believed gender identity and sexual orientation to be largely biologically dictated, but I see your point. I wouldn’t let my kid pierce his ears either. The idea is that something like nail polish is temporary and just ridiculous enough that it wouldn’t be something he’d be likely to carry on with. I happen to enjoy ridiculous, myself.
I suppose I simply take offense to the idea of being thought the least bit feminine, as I do not feel that way myself. Most people I know would mention my name among the more masculine people they associate with, and I feel the same way. Nail polish may be traditionally feminine, but I don’t feel feminine wearing it, nor do I feel it makes me more feminine. None of us know each other, of course, and I’m sure saying ‘I’m a guy and I paint my nails’ sounds a certain way–but that’s not how I feel about it at all. It’s no different than a wristwatch or a pair of sunglasses.
I think I can concede that nail polish is feminine; however, my use of it is not. Hell, pussy is pretty feminine, but we still like to dip our fingers in it from time to time, right?