are any of u guys old enough to know what its like to live with a low T condition and find ur doctor says your normal? what the heck is normal?, esp when the standard ranges for tests change according to age. so what might of been your norm range in ur 50s sure will be lower in your 60s and still considered normal…what will bring it back without t shots? don’t want to be 30 again just 50…lol any thoughts on this?
just for a fact very healthy male 60 yo no medical issues at all. Dropped 22 lbs in 6 months and gained 10 back training with weights so still on my game. do boosters really help when
your older and not producing as much T?
Quest lists 250ng/dL to 1100ng/dL as normal for total testosterone and 35pg/mL to 155pg/mL as normal for free testosterone. Doctors are taught to base treatment off the range and insurance will not allow it unless total is below 250. I know guys in their 20s with total test in the upper 200s denied treatment as they were, “low, but within the normal range”. If you are older, doctors will be even more unwilling to address lower testosterone levels as it is “you’re just getting up there, live with it”.
Yes. Very much so. I think almost every male over 60 should be on testosterone. Maybe 50.
If by boosters you mean something that will “boost” your natural production nothing that’s over the counter works to any sigificant degree. You could try HCG monotherapy that should help unless you have primary hypogonadism, ie your testicles are failing. HCG is a prescription though.
That answer is not a simple one, for the ignorant doctors in range is normal. To the educated doctor and the one’s leading the field in TRT normal is something different for everyone. Our testosterone levels peak in our early 20’s somewhere at the top of the reference ranges, as we age our levels decline and by the time we are retired and in out twilight years testosterone levels are at the bottom of the reference ranges.
Then there is the decline our population is witnessing, every 10 years boys are born with lower testosterone than 10 years previously and so on. It’s because of the endocrine disrupting chemicals in the environment which is why each general has lower testosterone.
T boosters are mostly scams. You’re 60 years old, your testosterone is only going in one direction, down, but you can fight to hold onto it and eventually you’ll end up on the losing end. If you think our medical system was designed to optimize your health, you would be mistaken.
I’m appalled with our medical system, the way they would have it is it’s normal part of aging to decline and it’s ok, everything is grouped into the word normal, normal is overweight sedentary and feeling our best is denied by our doctors and insurance companies because they don’t want to pay for it.
The sick care system doesn’t see any difference between a 20 year old at 300 and an 80 year old at 300, both are normal. If you want to live a higher quality of life, build more muscle, have more energy and higher sex drive, be prepared to pay out of pocket for your TRT.
You’re talking to a packed room. Most of us are in or have been in that situation. Stop with the “don’t want shots” BS. Would you say that if you needed insulin? Doubtful. This is no different. Your body isn’t making T anymore at the proper rate so you need exogenous Test.
If your Doc won’t help you, then find a clinic that will. A simple search here will give you a ton of options.
I’m almost 55, so I know 60 isnt old enough to roll over and die. The problem is, you don’t know how bad you feel until you get optimal again. TRT (done right) will change your life. You are doing yourself and your family a disservice by not not restoring your hormone levels. Proper levels will restore mental sharpness, energy, muscle tone, ambition, etc.
Yes, that’s what being 62 is for (jokes)… but in all honesty (don’t take this as me being a dick) running heavy blasts (say 500mg NPP or high dose test, orals, gh etc) chances are you won’t make its to 70, even 65 would be a push. If you want to live longer stick to milder compounds (not nandrolone, cut out the orals), low doses of GH. Make sure insulin sensitivity is good, cholesterol/trigs and BP are kept in check… make sure renal function is okay, get EKG (ECG is better but EKG alone can typically pick up LVH)
I’m sure you’ve heard of Androgel. I am 54 and I have used it since 2011. My T level stays between 450 and 600. Not stellar, but it was 172 before I started. I just didn’t want fool with needles. With insurance, it costs me $20 for 6 weeks worth.