Naw. As a proven racist, he’s not as progressive as white progressives, especially white American Democrats, make him out to be. The same would apply to the American Democrats who’ve been caught doing the same thing. They’re “liberal”/“Democrats” by brand only
I can say the same thing about Jackson Heights, NY in the US. Canada’s not some liberal racist-free safe haven like white American Democrats try to pass it off as.
I agree, if there were more feminism, the same expectation to work would apply to women as it applies to men because of equality.
If we believe politics shapes the world in which we live and more women have turned out to vote than men since 1980 then the world has been shaped by wimmin, ergo they are nuts and to blame. We all knew they were anyway, didn’t we fellas?
Perhaps I should’ve been more explicit. Here it’s rather uncommon that you see the same doctor twice (continuity of care isn’t really a thing), so you never know who will be your doctor. And it is only them, the doctors, that have the authority to make any decisions.
Maybe bias
Or maybe women downplay the severity of what they are experiencing and men don’t, or men exaggerate.
It’s very common that a nurse is a woman. What the gender ratio is among doctors I really have no insight into. Anecdotally, I’ve noticed that specialists tend to be men while among general- practicioners there seems to be a more even split.
This isn’t to say that there aren’t aspects of healthcare that seemingly fails men, notably men struggling with mental health seem to — across borders — have a hard time getting the help and assistance that they need.
But, both of these problems indicate that gender seemingly plays a part in in a scenario when it should have no bearing on the outcome. If medical aid is warranted, the context in which ones described symptomology is considered should one take gender into account if that has medical significance. Not as a side effect of unconscious bias.
Can someone go over this with me? Maybe I’m completely blinded by my own experiences. I’ve worked in mid- to large-size businesses for some time, and nearly all the employees were women. Depending on the position they likely make 35k to low six figures. Several administrators have been female with one making a very nice living and a whole lot of perks provided by a male owner (wouldn’t it be nice to go to Broadway shows and gifted a Bentley?). Health benefits, some unionized positions, tuition reimbursement at some places. I’ve seen plenty advance their positions too.
My mom who I described above, who is living very well in retirement. My cousin who works as an executive for a media giant that has produced products and programming all of us in this thread have used and watched. She’s actually married to a director who has worked on several episodes of a show that we’ve all seen. Considering the current sub-topic of this thread, take a guess which show that might be. Nice life. Another female cousin is a speech pathologist. I can go on and on.
Go to Manhattan, Williamsburg, Astoria, LIC. Who knows how many women with well paid profession and living better than average you’ll see.
Women now have a chance to flaunt their sexuality with modern technology to receive loads of attention and payment in money and gifts from men.
Though there’s inherent inequality in female and male characteristics, Where is all this inequality in professional opportunity? Is there no equality because there is not parity in ALL professions? Why bring up the commonly touted example of non-parity in the rare position of CEO to show general inequality? I don’t think that’s a good example when showing inequality amongst the population at large.
No, I don’t see it. Some T-mag posters have actually changed my line of thinking in some ways or degrees or maybe to interpret things in different ways. So when I ask questions, I’m being real. I’m not playing dumb or talking sideways.
Inequality in opportunity? I don’t see it. Men have more power than women? Your average man has no power or influence.
We’re in wave four of feminism. Which one is the authentic?
I think “accessing” might be a better word. But interestingly, there seems in my world to be a socioeconomic/education factor. My caseload at the moment is robust with men, and last week it felt noteworthy that 4/7 clients I’d seen one day were men. It all fluctuates, of course, but I’d say in general I run 30/70 male/female, but that’s in part because I have a lot of high school and college age clients, and they’re pretty much all female. And let me say of those girls as an aside that one of their primary anxieties is dealing with boys. Yesterday’s mid teen: “I think I’m being used” by a guy who accesses sex, but offers nothing relationship-like. She wants to talk to him about it (my suggestion) but probably won’t because what if it makes him mad and he won’t see her at all then? (And inside I’m like FUCK HIM THEN, but outside I’m all “would that really be the worst thing?” because I’m not allowed to kill anyone at work).
Anyway, when I worked Crisis (evaluated people who’d threatened to harm self or others) all the demographics of men were represented, but less on the upper end because they’d be more likely to reach out at a wife’s or coworkers suggestion or insistence, so it wouldn’t get to the point of needing a crisis intervention or hospitalization. I’ve certainly worked with poor and uneducated guys, and have probably 3 on my caseload who’ve been there for years, but poor men are more likely to come in, access quick help that calms the emergency (e.g. wife wants a divorce, I give rudimentary communication skills, she backs down), and then go. Too much stigma. A male college professor or engineer seems not to feel that at all.
What I notice out here in the boonies, where there are less opportunities for everyone, is that men are always at the top of whatever organization, despite the gender makeup of the rest of the organization. Working in community mental health, which is heavily dominated by female workers, all but one of the upper administration were male. Our local hospital - same. My former employer, which has six large primary care centers - same.
When I worked at the community mental health center there was a large variation in office size and quality (windows, say). Our tradition was that when people left a good office, the next in line seniority-wise moved into the bigger office. So I’d been there for years and we’d had no real turnover. I was in the smallest office of my team, and someone quit. Her office was larger and had hardwood flooring. Nice! So of course we all assumed that I’d be taking it. But to everyone’s shock it was decided that it would go to a male coworker, who was having to leave his office because it was located on a different floor and the team that “owned” that floor (adult team vs. my children’s team) wanted the space, and we had enough offices to go around on our floor now. So I was told that Tom would be taking the nice office because “he wasn’t wanting to move, so we’re going to let him have [so and so’s] office.” And I was like, “he doesn’t want to leave his office because it’s really nice, so you’re giving him another really nice office, while I’ve been quietly, happily in this 9x9 space right off the waiting room, the shittiest room in the building, so I have to stay in it?” And I got back a cold, flat stare, and “yes.”
So THEN I offered that there seemed to be three differences between me and Tom: one was that I had seniority, I’d been there a year and a half longer than he had; one was that I was licensed and he was not, so I was able to take all insurances while he was not; and the last was that he had a penis and I did not." Supervisor breaks eye contact, mutters, “well, that’s what’s been decided,” and I said that it was fine, I understood the agency’s position and would now have to decide what it meant for me going forward.
I began job hunting that night, came in in the morning to a panicked voicemail assuring me that it had been rethought, I would be moving into the nicer office, which I did. But I left the agency 6 weeks after moving into the office.
So that’s just one easily ignored story of weird random who-knows-what, but I guess the problem is that it happens all the time and most women can tell about overt sexism in their own lives. I’m not angry at anyone, I was more bewildered that I had to say those things. Tom was great about it. I don’t know.
So @chris_ottawa THAT was my tiny little individual feminist movement. I’d have stayed in that shitty little office forever, probably, because I loved my job and assumed myself valued at that agency. But I outranked that guy in every single way. I brought in more money than he did! So it’s not okay to fuck me over and expect that I’ll just be sweet about it, because sweet and friendly and “team player” are my general disposition.
He’s not a proven racist, he’s proven to lack judgment and also enjoy dressing up in costumes. Blackface alone doesn’t prove any sort of hatred, it’s just foolish behaviour. And it happened at a time when people were not so hypersensitive to these sorts of things.
I never said it was totally free of racism, but is there a place on earth that is?
Why do you say things like this? It makes it very hard to take you seriously.
They aren’t about to castrate anybody, but as they say, give them an inch and they’ll ask for a foot, the movement gets more and more extreme as time goes by. It reminds me of an old poem:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
But there are statistics showing the complete opposite. You seem to be blinded by feminist ideology.
If you repeat a lie enough times then people will start to believe it.
Did you ever consider that maybe they just didn’t like you? There are reasons for favoritism that have nothing to do with being male or female. You are playing the feminist card, and I’m not here to play games. Not every mean thing that someone did to you is a result of inequality between the sexes.
Anyway, I think I’m going to have to step out of this discussion because we are just running in circles. Unless new evidence can be presented, this case is thrown out for good.
I might have thought that, if they didn’t rush to keep me when it occurred to them that I might actually leave.
“Playing cards,” “playing games”…you asked questions. I answered earnestly, as if this was a conversation in which we exchange experiences to better understand what you’re seeing that baffles you so. You responded with a party line. Fine.
Personal anecdotes don’t prove a systemic problem. I could tell you stories about being treated badly by female teachers, bosses, and co-workers but that doesn’t prove anything other than some people are assholes.
Just because they don’t want you to leave doesn’t mean that they like you. Sometimes as a boss or manager you have employees that you don’t like but they are doing a good job so you still need them around. It’s not very hard to understand.
Yes, however I’m going by what I observe and experience in daily life and see going on in media, education, and entertainment, serious areas of life they are.
@chris_ottawa@EmilyQ
Emily, I don’t discredit what you say but I believe Chris has a point and brought up what I was going to bring up. We can go in circles with actual instances of disrespect and mistreatment in the workplace, and also perceived injustices.
I believe I was discriminated against and kept from disciplining employees appropriately because of gender. I also firmly believe I was discriminated against in two specific instances for being male and because of my race. I don’t know, but I think so, and I also think anyone with any worldliness and psychological acuity would agree.
I’m fully against mistreatment and disrespect in the workplace and measures should be taken to minimize it but it is inherent to the workplace. So is favoritism and nepotism or someone simply preferring someone over the next man or woman.
You brought up women being discriminated against because of certain surnames. I can also think of industries in NYC in which people without such surnames and ancestry pretty much can’t enter!
So this can go around in circles as Chris said, and so far no one has provided some way to achieve gender parity in all locations and all professions. And also, regarding CEO’s, what if people generally, women included, simply desire male CEO’s? Many women I know have said they prefer male co workers and managers.
If we’re talking about power/influence on a large scale (nationally for example) isn’t this even more so true for women?
If we’re talking in everyday life I think men and women have a lot of power and influence. I think the discrepancy here is in scope. I have tremendous power and influence over my children as does my wife. As far as I’m concerned, that’s an extremely important form of power/influence that is often overlooked.
Nice life. Another female cousin is a speech pathologist. I can go on and on.
