Men and Women, Women and Men

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Who says they’re trying to accomplish anything you’d care about? Today I kissed my husband goodbye as we both left for work, worked, and then came home to dinner and the rom-com mentioned upthread. That’s me, living my feminist life of dignity, free of fear that something will happen and I won’t be able to manage alone.

My husband is probably a feminist, since he likes the money I bring in. He’s living his life of sitting on an airplane at the moment, being sort of…non-radical. Other non-radical feminist things he does is cooks when he’s home and I’m at work.

It’s just really quiet and easy. Not sure why it’s so different for you.

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Damn… Young buck.

I was 95 to 2007.

Thanks, man. I wouldn’t say brutal necessarily because im a grunt at heart but they’re definitely legit.

You’d party with me. Bahaha

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That guy has a history of jumping into threads and making rude comments to me, including making fun of a girl I was trying to help that he was making fun of and calling anorexic. He is a piece of shit, and if he dies the next time he overdoses I wouldn’t mind at all.

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Ok, so just like the underground railroad there is no reason for it to exist anymore since times have changed. Unless of course you are a man-hating lesbian who wants to ban heterosexual relations.

Thank you for confirming what I already knew.

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Rock on, then!

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What makes you think it’s not? Because I linked an article and defended my opinion?

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No, because you seem so mystified that anyone could have a feminist agenda that’s not angry or demanding, and because you seem angry yourself over it.

And because I believe the odds to be strongly against there being plenty of women but no feminists where you work, so I’m imagining your behavior around the issue is not quiet or easy.

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If things are equal - and I still think there’s a bit of a pay gap along with a lot of sexism and prejudice against women in the workplace, but we’ll imagine you’re right and everything is equal - then, maintenance of that equality in the face of people who would push back against it. For some men, especially those who remember a time with more subservient women, equality may feel like oppression.

I think, regardless of how you feel instinctively about someone you know virtually nothing about on the internet, that this is nothing more than knee-jerk raw-emotion violent thought, contributes nothing to the conversation, and only detracts from your arguments, which, despite me disagreeing with them, are valid. Even if you can think of a reason for him to ‘deserve’ this, it doesn’t make you any better than him for wishing that type of thing on someone, lest you truly believe that saying rude things or inappropriate comments about anorexics is deserving of the death penalty. Just something to think about in a political climate where everyone wants everyone else to die all the time.

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I would. I work with and have worked with a lot of people who had polar opposite political beliefs from me, and I have discovered that what we would post online anonymously and who we are/what we do in real life are very different things, so that shit never matters to me in real life. I’m very close friends with plenty of people that I bet I would despise if I’d met online, haha.

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First of all, feminism is one of the last things on my mind under normal circumstances. I don’t go around discussing these things on a regular basis. This was a special occasion you could say.

The only outspoken feminists I hear of at all are the same loonies you see in the news. That is my perception of the issue. You “moderate feminists” sound like a bunch of idlers with nothing left to accomplish, time to disband and move on.

Is anyone actively fighting to remove this equality? Going with my undergroud railroad analogy, should an anti-slavery organization be created in case some people try to re-establish slavery in the western world?

The guy is a piece of shit, and he just jumps in to argue with me about nothing. He is also a heroin junkie who gets off on making fun of teenage girls, so he is as worthless a person as I can imagine. I have zero sympathy.

Also I never said anything about death penalty, you are putting words in my mouth.

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Lol. I’m really flattered that I am so in your head that you read my thread. No other way you would know that I overdosed.

I think you love me bro.

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Sounds like you are looking for a dick to suck for another hit.

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Yes, there are certainly people who want to exclude women from various workforces and have them exclusively as housekeepers or mothers. The very dismissal of feminism - a philosophy of equality - as a radical extremist philosophy could be construed as a fight to remove equality.

They were.

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No, I’m making a very, very, very short line from ‘I hope you die’ to ‘I think you deserve death as a punishment for what you’ve done’. That’s you being obtuse. And I have had several friends, who were kind people with bright futures, that got involved with the wrong people, and ended up overdosing and dying. By several, I mean 10 people from my graduating class of high school alone. Calling someone out for something they said is fair, equating drug use to moral deficiencies is silly - people choose drugs over food, family, love, and life, so it’s not much of a choice for those who fall down the wrong hole. Doesn’t mean they don’t have to make a change, just means they’re not horrible people for the use itself.

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100%. I like to troll mildly. But I agree. I have a soft spot for fellow grunts anyway. But I actually stopped drinking and partying in 96. I went the opposite of most guys in the 03XX. I was a gym rat. Still am.

The guys on my SWAT team… Good God. Power drinking maniacs.

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That girl was @anna_5588, and you have been very ineffective at helping her.

This is absolutely untrue. I do not jump into threads. I slide into them gently and expose you for the fucktard that you are.

My comments are not rude, they are salient AF. You are a cave man.

What you think of me is none of my business. I’m sure the people on this board will judge me on the merits - as they will judge you.

Karma is a bitch.

Now accusing @EmilyQ of being a man hating bitch. Think you might be joining @greenboy soon.

I’ll just leave this here.

For what it’s worth, I think you’re pretty bright. I just wish you wouldn’t try to dominate threads the way you do.

Off to shoot up again, lol.

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Think you’re projecting.

Look, anytime you want to meet me half way, I’ll be happy to kick your ass.

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@chris_ottawa

Lol, here comes the bullshit.

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Like who? I never hear of them, they never make the news, and likely they are a bunch of miserable nobodies who won’t accomplish anything.

The NAACP is a civil rights organization, not the same thing as anti-slavery. In majority black countries in the Caribbean there is no similar organization, for obvious reasons. I see a good reason for organizations like that to exist in the US. However, an interesting fact is that Marcus Garvey once walked out of an NAACP meeting saying that it was a white people’s organization.

That’s not even what I said either, I said I don’t mind.

Yeah but he’s morally deficient, a 50+ year old man making fun of young girls with issues. He is the lowest of the low.

So has everyone else that tried, but at least we tried.

Every once in a while you reply to one of my posts with insults, I don’t know what you want to call that but it is what it is. It all started after you made some self-deprecating jokes about being a soy boy, I made a joke or two and you lost your mind and started harassing me in your spare time. You are a very sad person.

Is that what happened to you?

You are trying to twist my words around and get other people mad at me. Is it any wonder I don’t like you?

I wasn’t trying to dominate anything, people just kept responding and I was sitting here while my dinner was cooking so I responded. Is that somehow wrong?

I’ve seen what you post in your training log, I could throw you down the street. I’m sure your scrawny dope fiend ass don’t talk like that in real life or you wouldn’t have made it this far.

But seriously, I think you just need to get over whatever your issue is with me. I look at a thread and see you posting, I don’t even think of getting involved. I suggest you do the same. Arguing about nothing is a waste of time. If you have something to add to a discussion hen feel free to do so, but behaving like an asshole is not going to accomplish anything.

And for the record, I only looked at your log after I saw that you told Anna to join you there. I have no interest in who you are.

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This otherwise very positive thread chemically unraveled since I was last here.

Thats a lot of edge and yikes from me dawgs.

I guess I’ll sum up my thoughts on the last… 40 or so comments.

@flappinit I just want to say (and I feel like I’ve said this to you before? I work a lot, and DXM was a hell of a drug, so excuse my swiss cheese memory) very rarely do I find someone else that shares an almost offensively nuetral and calm outlook on life. I have to stop myself from liking pretty much every comment you make because that shit gets weird after a while. While I’m a bit more apathetic and borderline sociopathic in my views, I can always rely on you to convey what I’m thinking if I dont get there first.

@chris_ottawa to… greatly understate and simplify this; I just had a long talk with a co-worker, so just bare with this drawn out metaphor:

Hes quite the green white boy. I dont think hes seen an ounce of pain or otherwise unfortunate circumstance in his entire life. I dont even know if hes seen his own blood. Anyways, he went on a tirade about black people and their " “struggle” " (I’m quoting his air quotes for clarification) after a very drawn out talk, it occurred to me, this dude never had any black friends in his entire life. Hes judging this entire demographic of people based off of arguably skewed Facebook posts and horribly reported news outlets. I’ve had black friends. Guess what? Those dudes get pulled more in one week than I get pulled in 5 years. That’s not an exaggeration, it’s just facts from people I’ve known, at least in my sample. I managed to get him to at least somewhat understand that just because he thought racism was over and people arent discriminating, that it’s just a bit more subtle, not quite slave owning and racial slurs. More… getting pulled over frequently… getting profiled more often… being ignored… locking car doors… interracial relationships still being taboo.

I guess my point being, your view of feminists is strictly that of a radical nature. Yeah. I think they’re scumbags too. However a true feminist simply wants an equal chance.

No, women arent stuck at home anymore. No they’re not just house wives. Yes they can vote. However, they are still paid less on average. They get overlooked in male dominated industries. They’re still disparaged from sleeping around, while men wear it like a trophy. They’re still expected to perform “womanly” duties, that were established when doctors were still prescribing cocaine and heroin to patients.

To judge a situation you HAVE to attempt to play devils advocate. Otherwise you arent truly informed.

General Unwarranted View On Addicts:

I actually struggled a long time to accept addicts and not completely vilify them. My graduating class had… 7 or 8 overdoses while I was in school. Since then, there have been dozens from that same class. I always though “it’s pretty simple, just dont do fucking heroin”.

While I still struggle disagreeing with that thought, it becomes an inarguable point if someone is already addicted. While I think it’s stupid that they tried it, and it’s an inexcusable accident; it directly competes with my pro-choice thoughts. One night of fun/depression/bad decisions/weakness/involuntary victimization, should never condemn a person’s entire life. Unfortunately heroin never seems to leave. Past the legal charges, the family harm, the ruined friendships, the financial disparity, they are stuck craving it until the day they die, in most cases.

Attacking this brief moment of weakness is extremely low, edgy, and honestly completely inhuman.

I firmly believe there are some things you simply never say to someone. No matter the circumstance. No matter the involvement in the situation. Some battles are strictly for the person involved and no one else. I dont care how right you are/feel, you have no right to view an earth shattering event like addiction with anything but uncertainty/empathy. I lean towards the uncertainty side if were being honest. I still wouldn’t ever let an addict in my home, but thats my decision to make for the well being of my family. The way they choose to handle their demons is theirs. I dont know anything about addiction, and I wont judge what a person is going through without, as I said, being able to play the devils advocate.

*edit for transparency: I actually dont know @The_Myth that well. I might hate the dude for all I know. But the junkie comments are just extremely unwarranted regardless of his personality towards you. You can find a way to productively argue, without wishing them death, even if they wont play by the same rules.

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