Men afraid of commitment?

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Okay cant read all of this thread.

Can someone give me some cliff notes?

Q do ever think maybe you think about all this stuff to much? Meaning you OVER think/analyse all this.

Just a thought, dont yell at me :slight_smile: [/quote]

I’m going to give what you’ve said a great deal of thought, Derek, and will respond at length after I’ve had time to really turn it over and view it from all angles. :slight_smile:

[/quote]
hahahaahahahhahahaa awesome.

I dont believe you go through relationships with your head in the clouds and the lust in your loins, but you also should not go through it like a you are a psychologist analysing every little thing. Just my .02, sometimes what makes a relationship great is a little of both of these. [/quote]

Actually, I think I do exactly that (head in clouds, loins in lust) which seems to be the concensus on this thread, if I’m not misreading AC and Chushin, etc.

I have more to say, naturally, but I need to say some stuff to my agency’s documentation system before I get fired.[/quote]

My loins are always in lust

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Okay cant read all of this thread.

Can someone give me some cliff notes?

Q do ever think maybe you think about all this stuff to much? Meaning you OVER think/analyse all this.

Just a thought, dont yell at me :slight_smile: [/quote]

I’m going to give what you’ve said a great deal of thought, Derek, and will respond at length after I’ve had time to really turn it over and view it from all angles. :slight_smile:

[/quote]
hahahaahahahhahahaa awesome.

I dont believe you go through relationships with your head in the clouds and the lust in your loins, but you also should not go through it like a you are a psychologist analysing every little thing. Just my .02, sometimes what makes a relationship great is a little of both of these. [/quote]

Actually, I think I do exactly that (head in clouds, loins in lust) which seems to be the concensus on this thread, if I’m not misreading AC and Chushin, etc.

I have more to say, naturally, but I need to say some stuff to my agency’s documentation system before I get fired.[/quote]

My loins are always in lust[/quote]

I can buy my own drinks, so don’t think I’m going to kiss you. And I don’t see anyone more than once a week. And this is the last post I’m writing to you until - Thursday!

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Okay cant read all of this thread.

Can someone give me some cliff notes?

Q do ever think maybe you think about all this stuff to much? Meaning you OVER think/analyse all this.

Just a thought, dont yell at me :slight_smile: [/quote]

I’m going to give what you’ve said a great deal of thought, Derek, and will respond at length after I’ve had time to really turn it over and view it from all angles. :slight_smile:

[/quote]
hahahaahahahhahahaa awesome.

I dont believe you go through relationships with your head in the clouds and the lust in your loins, but you also should not go through it like a you are a psychologist analysing every little thing. Just my .02, sometimes what makes a relationship great is a little of both of these. [/quote]

Actually, I think I do exactly that (head in clouds, loins in lust) which seems to be the concensus on this thread, if I’m not misreading AC and Chushin, etc.

I have more to say, naturally, but I need to say some stuff to my agency’s documentation system before I get fired.[/quote]

My loins are always in lust[/quote]

I can buy my own drinks, so don’t think I’m going to kiss you. And I don’t see anyone more than once a week. And this is the last post I’m writing to you until - Thursday![/quote]
Uh was that to Titan or Me?

Will you buy my drinks?

Do you purposely choose the day? Or do you just let it happen?

I’ve actually noticed something similar among the associates and young male partners (late 20, to mid-30s) lawyers in my firm.

Used to, they’d show up at 25 and, if not be already married, get married promptly after joining the firm.

Now, they don’t particulaly date, marry, or even chase women (or men, for that matter).

These are smart guys, generally pretty fit/good looking, often well-connected (or will soon be well-connected), making mid six figures — what used to be called a “catch” back in the day.

I’ve actually asked several about it, and, long story short, they’ve decided women are not worth the trouble.

Dating and marriage is expensive, the drama and bullshit they feel most women bring is a destraction from life, and all the society and legal system is geared against men in a relationship, and the rewards, at least dating American women, are few. They’re not even playing the field. They’ve just checked it off and do without.

The exceptions to the rule are the religious associates — mormons and Orthodox Jews being the majority of such in our office. We all are married (generally young) and have multiple children.

The female associates, in contrast, are constantly on the prowl for a husband/someone to date or sleep with, and blow through 2-3 husbands by the time they are 40.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Okay cant read all of this thread.

Can someone give me some cliff notes?

Q do ever think maybe you think about all this stuff to much? Meaning you OVER think/analyse all this.

Just a thought, dont yell at me :slight_smile: [/quote]

I’m going to give what you’ve said a great deal of thought, Derek, and will respond at length after I’ve had time to really turn it over and view it from all angles. :slight_smile:

[/quote]
hahahaahahahhahahaa awesome.

I dont believe you go through relationships with your head in the clouds and the lust in your loins, but you also should not go through it like a you are a psychologist analysing every little thing. Just my .02, sometimes what makes a relationship great is a little of both of these. [/quote]

Actually, I think I do exactly that (head in clouds, loins in lust) which seems to be the concensus on this thread, if I’m not misreading AC and Chushin, etc.

I have more to say, naturally, but I need to say some stuff to my agency’s documentation system before I get fired.[/quote]

My loins are always in lust[/quote]

I can buy my own drinks, so don’t think I’m going to kiss you. And I don’t see anyone more than once a week. And this is the last post I’m writing to you until - Thursday![/quote]

Emily, if you ever laid eyes on me you’d be asking to buy my drinks and praying I’d plant a passionate one on ya. I’m sorry but Thursday is not good for me I already have plans with Sturgeon that day.

Yours very truly,

Lusty Loins

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I’ve actually noticed something similar among the associates and young male partners (late 20, to mid-30s) lawyers in my firm.

Used to, they’d show up at 25 and, if not be already married, get married promptly after joining the firm.

Now, they don’t particulaly date, marry, or even chase women (or men, for that matter).

These are smart guys, generally pretty fit/good looking, often well-connected (or will soon be well-connected), making mid six figures — what used to be called a “catch” back in the day.

I’ve actually asked several about it, and, long story short, they’ve decided women are not worth the trouble.

Dating and marriage is expensive, the drama and bullshit they feel most women bring is a destraction from life, and all the society and legal system is geared against men in a relationship, and the rewards, at least dating American women, are few. They’re not even playing the field. They’ve just checked it off and do without.

The exceptions to the rule are the religious associates — mormons and Orthodox Jews being the majority of such in our office. We all are married (generally young) and have multiple children.

The female associates, in contrast, are constantly on the prowl for a husband/someone to date or sleep with, and blow through 2-3 husbands by the time they are 40.[/quote]
Alright that’s it. Grab your time machine Jewbacca and take me back to the good ol’ days.

[quote]theBeth wrote:
Wow. I am not qualified to contribute to this thread. I don’t know if there’s any such thing as true commitment or fidelity and I wish I was a willowy thing with librarian glasses who only attracted geeky intelligent types instead of narcissists and sociopaths.

[/quote]

I’m geeky and intelligent, but maybe a little narcissistic and sociopathic too…

But if you were a willowy thing you wouldn’t have dat ass gurl.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I’ve actually noticed something similar among the associates and young male partners (late 20, to mid-30s) lawyers in my firm.

Used to, they’d show up at 25 and, if not be already married, get married promptly after joining the firm.

Now, they don’t particulaly date, marry, or even chase women (or men, for that matter).

These are smart guys, generally pretty fit/good looking, often well-connected (or will soon be well-connected), making mid six figures — what used to be called a “catch” back in the day.

I’ve actually asked several about it, and, long story short, they’ve decided women are not worth the trouble.

Dating and marriage is expensive, the drama and bullshit they feel most women bring is a destraction from life, and all the society and legal system is geared against men in a relationship, and the rewards, at least dating American women, are few. They’re not even playing the field. They’ve just checked it off and do without.

The exceptions to the rule are the religious associates — mormons and Orthodox Jews being the majority of such in our office. We all are married (generally young) and have multiple children.

The female associates, in contrast, are constantly on the prowl for a husband/someone to date or sleep with, and blow through 2-3 husbands by the time they are 40.[/quote]

LOL Jewbacca those young associates are lying their asses off to you. Do you really believe young attorneys are going without tail?

This is what I think is really going on. Young singles now have the dating websites and young male attorneys find that they can use them as hookup sites and get all the poon they want. They put up profiles saying they are attorneys or just say professionals and have pictures of themselves in well tailored expensive suits and they take advantage of the young sluts that think they can get an attorney by putting out.

So these guys are getting laid once or twice a week but they don’t want to tell their boss (or partner in the firm) what they are really doing so they tell you that bullshit line.

Back when you and I were young professionals being good looking and successful wasn’t enough, you still had to have at least some game and you had to figure out how to meet single, ehem interested females. Now all you have to do is put together a good profile on Eharmony.

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Okay cant read all of this thread.

Can someone give me some cliff notes?

Q do ever think maybe you think about all this stuff to much? Meaning you OVER think/analyse all this.

Just a thought, dont yell at me :slight_smile: [/quote]

I’m going to give what you’ve said a great deal of thought, Derek, and will respond at length after I’ve had time to really turn it over and view it from all angles. :slight_smile:

[/quote]
hahahaahahahhahahaa awesome.

I dont believe you go through relationships with your head in the clouds and the lust in your loins, but you also should not go through it like a you are a psychologist analysing every little thing. Just my .02, sometimes what makes a relationship great is a little of both of these. [/quote]

Actually, I think I do exactly that (head in clouds, loins in lust) which seems to be the concensus on this thread, if I’m not misreading AC and Chushin, etc.

I have more to say, naturally, but I need to say some stuff to my agency’s documentation system before I get fired.[/quote]

My loins are always in lust[/quote]

I can buy my own drinks, so don’t think I’m going to kiss you. And I don’t see anyone more than once a week. And this is the last post I’m writing to you until - Thursday![/quote]

Emily, if you ever laid eyes on me you’d be asking to buy my drinks and praying I’d plant a passionate one on ya. I’m sorry but Thursday is not good for me I already have plans with Sturgeon that day.

Yours very truly,

Lusty Loins
[/quote]

Where’s Roybot when you need him? I think TOT is another account for Houston Guy.

[quote]on edge wrote:
Where’s Roybot when you need him? I think TOT is another account for Houston Guy.[/quote]
It’s been many, many months since a sighting.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:
Where’s Roybot when you need him? I think TOT is another account for Houston Guy.[/quote]
It’s been many, many months since a sighting.[/quote]

What do you think Sulli, could I be onto something?

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I’ve actually noticed something similar among the associates and young male partners (late 20, to mid-30s) lawyers in my firm.

Used to, they’d show up at 25 and, if not be already married, get married promptly after joining the firm.

Now, they don’t particulaly date, marry, or even chase women (or men, for that matter).

These are smart guys, generally pretty fit/good looking, often well-connected (or will soon be well-connected), making mid six figures — what used to be called a “catch” back in the day.

I’ve actually asked several about it, and, long story short, they’ve decided women are not worth the trouble.

Dating and marriage is expensive, the drama and bullshit they feel most women bring is a destraction from life, and all the society and legal system is geared against men in a relationship, and the rewards, at least dating American women, are few. They’re not even playing the field. They’ve just checked it off and do without.

The exceptions to the rule are the religious associates — mormons and Orthodox Jews being the majority of such in our office. We all are married (generally young) and have multiple children.

The female associates, in contrast, are constantly on the prowl for a husband/someone to date or sleep with, and blow through 2-3 husbands by the time they are 40.[/quote]

LOL Jewbacca those young associates are lying their asses off to you. Do you really believe young attorneys are going without tail?

This is what I think is really going on. Young singles now have the dating websites and young male attorneys find that they can use them as hookup sites and get all the poon they want. They put up profiles saying they are attorneys or just say professionals and have pictures of themselves in well tailored expensive suits and they take advantage of the young sluts that think they can get an attorney by putting out.

So these guys are getting laid once or twice a week but they don’t want to tell their boss (or partner in the firm) what they are really doing so they tell you that bullshit line.

Back when you and I were young professionals being good looking and successful wasn’t enough, you still had to have at least some game and you had to figure out how to meet single, ehem interested females. Now all you have to do is put together a good profile on Eharmony.
[/quote]

There might be something to that, but how come they allegedly fuck 2 women a week and deem none worthy to share their way better than average life with them?

One would imagine that they wanted more, however, if pussy is all there is…

I am willing to bet that Mormons and Orthodox Jews get a lot more out of the deal.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I’ve actually noticed something similar among the associates and young male partners (late 20, to mid-30s) lawyers in my firm.

Used to, they’d show up at 25 and, if not be already married, get married promptly after joining the firm.

Now, they don’t particulaly date, marry, or even chase women (or men, for that matter).

These are smart guys, generally pretty fit/good looking, often well-connected (or will soon be well-connected), making mid six figures — what used to be called a “catch” back in the day.

I’ve actually asked several about it, and, long story short, they’ve decided women are not worth the trouble.

Dating and marriage is expensive, the drama and bullshit they feel most women bring is a destraction from life, and all the society and legal system is geared against men in a relationship, and the rewards, at least dating American women, are few. They’re not even playing the field. They’ve just checked it off and do without.

The exceptions to the rule are the religious associates — mormons and Orthodox Jews being the majority of such in our office. We all are married (generally young) and have multiple children.

The female associates, in contrast, are constantly on the prowl for a husband/someone to date or sleep with, and blow through 2-3 husbands by the time they are 40.[/quote]

LOL Jewbacca those young associates are lying their asses off to you. Do you really believe young attorneys are going without tail?

This is what I think is really going on. Young singles now have the dating websites and young male attorneys find that they can use them as hookup sites and get all the poon they want. They put up profiles saying they are attorneys or just say professionals and have pictures of themselves in well tailored expensive suits and they take advantage of the young sluts that think they can get an attorney by putting out.

So these guys are getting laid once or twice a week but they don’t want to tell their boss (or partner in the firm) what they are really doing so they tell you that bullshit line.

Back when you and I were young professionals being good looking and successful wasn’t enough, you still had to have at least some game and you had to figure out how to meet single, ehem interested females. Now all you have to do is put together a good profile on Eharmony.
[/quote]

There might be something to that, but how come they allegedly fuck 2 women a week and deem none worthy to share their way better than average life with them?

One would imagine that they wanted more, however, if pussy is all there is…

I am willing to bet that Mormons and Orthodox Jews get a lot more out of the deal. [/quote]

Options. The more women I fuck the less i deem worthy. Whenever I take a good look at myself I’m like damn I really ain’t worth shit but expect a lot. But if I had sex with 15 women this year they all brought something to the table then I now expect all to be compiled in to one perfect woman.

Ex.If you date a lot of woman you will no doubt get

  1. A true sexual do anything freak. Not the kind you have to tell and ask to do stuff they just know when to do it and how.
  2. A woman so secure she just wants to pay for dinner, pay for everything for you.
  3. A woman that just likes to give head. May not be a freak but just gives it to you all the time your barely opening your eyes waking up already her head is in your lap.
  4. Cook all the time for you - maybe laundry too or another line
  5. Will workout and keep in shape.
  6. Trophy. Bring her around and everybody looks at you like how the fuck did you get her.
  7. Motivator. Some how she just helps you accomplish shit.
  8. New new, she always seems like a new girl. Can reinvent herself Relationship feels like the best first date every time you go out.
  9. Great chemistry everything is perfect - probably would be ideal except now because you got a taste you want 1-7 in her too.

Now You try asking Girl number 4, to be girl number 3 she’ll look at you like wtf? I do all this for you and your asking for that too???

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I’ve actually noticed something similar among the associates and young male partners (late 20, to mid-30s) lawyers in my firm.

Used to, they’d show up at 25 and, if not be already married, get married promptly after joining the firm.

Now, they don’t particulaly date, marry, or even chase women (or men, for that matter).

These are smart guys, generally pretty fit/good looking, often well-connected (or will soon be well-connected), making mid six figures — what used to be called a “catch” back in the day.

I’ve actually asked several about it, and, long story short, they’ve decided women are not worth the trouble.

Dating and marriage is expensive, the drama and bullshit they feel most women bring is a destraction from life, and all the society and legal system is geared against men in a relationship, and the rewards, at least dating American women, are few. They’re not even playing the field. They’ve just checked it off and do without.

The exceptions to the rule are the religious associates — mormons and Orthodox Jews being the majority of such in our office. We all are married (generally young) and have multiple children.

The female associates, in contrast, are constantly on the prowl for a husband/someone to date or sleep with, and blow through 2-3 husbands by the time they are 40.[/quote]

LOL Jewbacca those young associates are lying their asses off to you. Do you really believe young attorneys are going without tail?

This is what I think is really going on. Young singles now have the dating websites and young male attorneys find that they can use them as hookup sites and get all the poon they want. They put up profiles saying they are attorneys or just say professionals and have pictures of themselves in well tailored expensive suits and they take advantage of the young sluts that think they can get an attorney by putting out.

So these guys are getting laid once or twice a week but they don’t want to tell their boss (or partner in the firm) what they are really doing so they tell you that bullshit line.

Back when you and I were young professionals being good looking and successful wasn’t enough, you still had to have at least some game and you had to figure out how to meet single, ehem interested females. Now all you have to do is put together a good profile on Eharmony.
[/quote]

It’s certainly possible, but the 4-5 times this has come up in the last 5 years has typically been volunteer statements from associates talking among themselves; it’s not like I enquire about people’s private lives.

The one I am thinking of was at a wedding of a senior female associate; there were nubile women literally throwing themselves at the guys, to the point that Mrs. Jewbacca had her claws out and latched on to me in classic Jewish wife defensive posture. (I think it’s the real basis for Krav Maga.)

Anyway, most of the guys were pretty much just blowing them off and dissing the girls; exact opposite of my behavior given the opportunity and time of life.

I’d have nailed at least one in the coat room. (And yes, I know my wife reads this. That’s probably why she had the arm/boob lock on me.)

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
That’s probably why she had the arm/boob lock on me[/quote]

I dont know that move.

Then, what do I know of Krav Maga.

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:
Where’s Roybot when you need him? I think TOT is another account for Houston Guy.[/quote]
It’s been many, many months since a sighting.[/quote]

What do you think Sulli, could I be onto something?[/quote]

I don’t think so in this case. HoustonGuy actually had some tact. TOT just seems too crude to be one and the same.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
That’s probably why she had the arm/boob lock on me[/quote]

I dont know that move.

Then, what do I know of Krav Maga. [/quote]

Surely you do. All women do this to stake a claim on their men.

Grab close and press one boob into you while at a party/reception. The hand with the drink remains free to be launched into the face of intruding females.

Looks very casual and polite, but it’s not remotely.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I’ve actually noticed something similar among the associates and young male partners (late 20, to mid-30s) lawyers in my firm.

Used to, they’d show up at 25 and, if not be already married, get married promptly after joining the firm.

Now, they don’t particulaly date, marry, or even chase women (or men, for that matter).

These are smart guys, generally pretty fit/good looking, often well-connected (or will soon be well-connected), making mid six figures — what used to be called a “catch” back in the day.

I’ve actually asked several about it, and, long story short, they’ve decided women are not worth the trouble.

Dating and marriage is expensive, the drama and bullshit they feel most women bring is a destraction from life, and all the society and legal system is geared against men in a relationship, and the rewards, at least dating American women, are few. They’re not even playing the field. They’ve just checked it off and do without.

The exceptions to the rule are the religious associates — mormons and Orthodox Jews being the majority of such in our office. We all are married (generally young) and have multiple children.

The female associates, in contrast, are constantly on the prowl for a husband/someone to date or sleep with, and blow through 2-3 husbands by the time they are 40.[/quote]

LOL Jewbacca those young associates are lying their asses off to you. Do you really believe young attorneys are going without tail?

This is what I think is really going on. Young singles now have the dating websites and young male attorneys find that they can use them as hookup sites and get all the poon they want. They put up profiles saying they are attorneys or just say professionals and have pictures of themselves in well tailored expensive suits and they take advantage of the young sluts that think they can get an attorney by putting out.

So these guys are getting laid once or twice a week but they don’t want to tell their boss (or partner in the firm) what they are really doing so they tell you that bullshit line.

Back when you and I were young professionals being good looking and successful wasn’t enough, you still had to have at least some game and you had to figure out how to meet single, ehem interested females. Now all you have to do is put together a good profile on Eharmony.
[/quote]

It’s certainly possible, but the 4-5 times this has come up in the last 5 years has typically been volunteer statements from associates talking among themselves; it’s not like I enquire about people’s private lives.

The one I am thinking of was at a wedding of a senior female associate; there were nubile women literally throwing themselves at the guys, to the point that Mrs. Jewbacca had her claws out and latched on to me in classic Jewish wife defensive posture. (I think it’s the real basis for Krav Maga.)

Anyway, most of the guys were pretty much just blowing them off and dissing the girls; exact opposite of my behavior given the opportunity and time of life.

I’d have nailed at least one in the coat room. (And yes, I know my wife reads this. That’s probably why she had the arm/boob lock on me.)[/quote]

I get that.

I’ve been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a paaaaaaaaaawn and a king…

Um, sorry…

They are so much more interested on the upswing its not even funny.

I dont even say that they are golddiggin whores, though, subconsciously, they are, but they dont want to invest, they dont want to contribute, they dont want to be there in the bad times, lying awake at night wondering how to pay your suppliers or creditors.

They want none of that, they just want the finished product.

Well, I am sorry, if I am on top of things I need them the least, plenty of them to replace them with to go around.

So, if your young collegues look at them in contempt, well, where were they when said hopeful young big shots to be burned the midnight oil in the library?

Fucking DJs, thats were they were.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
That’s probably why she had the arm/boob lock on me[/quote]

I dont know that move.

Then, what do I know of Krav Maga. [/quote]

Surely you do. All women do this to stake a claim on their men.

Grab close and press one boob into you while at a party/reception. The hand with the drink remains free to be launched into the face of intruding females.

Looks very casual and polite, but it’s not remotely.[/quote]

Ah.

Thats when the grip gets to be a tad… territorial…

Yes, that one I know.

Good sign, shows she still cares.