Men afraid of commitment?

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]
Men are so, so simple. Women create a plethora of complexities for them that don’t actually exist.[/quote]
I’ll compound this with the statement that, extrinsically, men will paint upon themselves complexities that are, in essence, merely peripheral to their sex drive. An image simply put. Intrinsic complexity is a different topic.[/quote]

You’re saying there’s not internal complexity?

I don’t know if I believe this. Depending upon the man, of course.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Really? Under what circumstances? Is this a myth, meant to confuse women further? As if your regular incomprehensible behavior isn’t enough!

Because once again I find myself doing a deer-in-the-headlights thing as someone begins pushing in that direction, i.e. exclusivity. And we’ve been seeing each other only briefly, no sex.

So my question for the board is, how is this best handled?

I don’t understand men. Except orion.
[/quote]

Well, either you are super awesome or he needs a woman in his life.

Any woman really. [/quote]

I think he just wants someone around to pick up his dirty socks, that JERK. I’m going to send him a note right now, stating very firmly that THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER FRIENDSHIP.

And P.S. I only say I understand you because you’ve spent a lot of time explaining yourself. I think you could probably say the same of me, no? So don’t be mean.
[/quote]

Why am I mean.

Either you are one in a thousand and he goes for it or he needs to latch on to a woman.

Maybe a bit of both.

I think you understand people who need, need, NEED to be in a relationship a lot better than I do.

[/quote]

Some people might want, want, WANT to be in a relationship.

I was last minimally involved with this guy a year and a half or so ago. At that time, he was coming out of what sounded like some transitional post-divorce stuff. I didn’t and don’t see him as desperate, as he has definite market value and if he only wanted a relationship, any relationship, would have one. He also chooses to live in our remote area rather than in the urban settings where most of his work is centered, which suggests that a relationship is not at the top of his priority list.

Now, one possibility is that he enjoys cat-and-mousing goofy, earnest women for the entertainment value it provides and isn’t interested in a relationship at all. If so there’s a chance that I’ll wind up being drawn in and will ultimately be spectacularly hurt. Could be. I worry it! But I don’t think that’s it.

Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]

Too much wanting pretty much is needing.

Your argument is the equivalent of arguing that sluts would just fuck anybody.

They dont, the fuck as high upwards as possible.

A needy man would not just “relationship” anybody too, they go as high as they can get.

Now, as for how high his SMP might be, you have already been with one paper alpha.

To realize his potential, he would have to know its there, if he does not, he could be a total beta shlub in a nice package.

Getting a bit clingy seems to indicate that he does not know that he is enough. [/quote]

But doesn’t it all depend upon what your definition of value is when you determine what is the highest you can get?

I think it does. [/quote]

That’s an interesting question… I’ve always been interested in people I consider way out of my league, like “10s” or at least solid “9s” in my mind. LOL [/quote]

For looks? I’m always after smart. I happily trade down in looks for intelligence, which is fine, because I like being the “hot” one in the relationship anyway.

There’s a point at which men are too good looking and I get stupid, which I don’t like. I wouldn’t have thought that this couldn’t happen with intelligence, the more the better, but I’ve had cause to question this recently. [/quote]
Have you ever met a man you’d deem too smart and too handsome simultaneously within this context?

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]
Men are so, so simple. Women create a plethora of complexities for them that don’t actually exist.[/quote]
I’ll compound this with the statement that, extrinsically, men will paint upon themselves complexities that are, in essence, merely peripheral to their sex drive. An image simply put. Intrinsic complexity is a different topic.[/quote]

You’re saying there’s not internal complexity?

I don’t know if I believe this. Depending upon the man, of course.[/quote]

No, a healthy man is rather simple, at least emotionally.

You confuse “complex” with “fucked up”.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]
Men are so, so simple. Women create a plethora of complexities for them that don’t actually exist.[/quote]
I’ll compound this with the statement that, extrinsically, men will paint upon themselves complexities that are, in essence, merely peripheral to their sex drive. An image simply put. Intrinsic complexity is a different topic.[/quote]

You’re saying there’s not internal complexity?

I don’t know if I believe this. Depending upon the man, of course.[/quote]
No, I’m saying they’re not indicative of each other.

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

But doesn’t it all depend upon what your definition of value is when you determine what is the highest you can get?

I think it does. [/quote]

That’s an interesting question… I’ve always been interested in people I consider way out of my league, like “10s” or at least solid “9s” in my mind. LOL [/quote]

For looks? I’m always after smart. I happily trade down in looks for intelligence, which is fine, because I like being the “hot” one in the relationship anyway.

There’s a point at which men are too good looking and I get stupid, which I don’t like. I wouldn’t have thought that this couldn’t happen with intelligence, the more the better, but I’ve had cause to question this recently. [/quote]
Have you ever met a man you’d deem too smart and too handsome simultaneously within this context?[/quote]

I’ve only, to this point, ever met one man I thought might be too bright, who is the subject of this thread, actually. Although bear in mind that I’ve spent most of my life not looking at or considering men as romantic prospects, so there have been attractive men and bright men and I would have been oblivious to them in any other context than the one that brought us together, though I might enjoy talking to them or looking at them, I suppose.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]
Men are so, so simple. Women create a plethora of complexities for them that don’t actually exist.[/quote]
I’ll compound this with the statement that, extrinsically, men will paint upon themselves complexities that are, in essence, merely peripheral to their sex drive. An image simply put. Intrinsic complexity is a different topic.[/quote]

You’re saying there’s not internal complexity?

I don’t know if I believe this. Depending upon the man, of course.[/quote]

No, a healthy man is rather simple, at least emotionally.

You confuse “complex” with “fucked up”. [/quote]

You’re probably right. In fact, I know you are.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]
Men are so, so simple. Women create a plethora of complexities for them that don’t actually exist.[/quote]
I’ll compound this with the statement that, extrinsically, men will paint upon themselves complexities that are, in essence, merely peripheral to their sex drive. An image simply put. Intrinsic complexity is a different topic.[/quote]

You’re saying there’s not internal complexity?

I don’t know if I believe this. Depending upon the man, of course.[/quote]

No, a healthy man is rather simple, at least emotionally.

You confuse “complex” with “fucked up”. [/quote]

You’re probably right. In fact, I know you are.[/quote]

Dont worry, its a common mistake.

Sex, respect, a mission bigger than himself.

There, if that is not enough, probably fucked up.

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[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Really? Under what circumstances? Is this a myth, meant to confuse women further? As if your regular incomprehensible behavior isn’t enough!

Because once again I find myself doing a deer-in-the-headlights thing as someone begins pushing in that direction, i.e. exclusivity. And we’ve been seeing each other only briefly, no sex.

So my question for the board is, how is this best handled?

I don’t understand men. Except orion.
[/quote]

Well, either you are super awesome or he needs a woman in his life.

Any woman really. [/quote]

I think he just wants someone around to pick up his dirty socks, that JERK. I’m going to send him a note right now, stating very firmly that THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER FRIENDSHIP.

And P.S. I only say I understand you because you’ve spent a lot of time explaining yourself. I think you could probably say the same of me, no? So don’t be mean.
[/quote]

Why am I mean.

Either you are one in a thousand and he goes for it or he needs to latch on to a woman.

Maybe a bit of both.

I think you understand people who need, need, NEED to be in a relationship a lot better than I do.

[/quote]

Some people might want, want, WANT to be in a relationship.

I was last minimally involved with this guy a year and a half or so ago. At that time, he was coming out of what sounded like some transitional post-divorce stuff. I didn’t and don’t see him as desperate, as he has definite market value and if he only wanted a relationship, any relationship, would have one. He also chooses to live in our remote area rather than in the urban settings where most of his work is centered, which suggests that a relationship is not at the top of his priority list.

Now, one possibility is that he enjoys cat-and-mousing goofy, earnest women for the entertainment value it provides and isn’t interested in a relationship at all. If so there’s a chance that I’ll wind up being drawn in and will ultimately be spectacularly hurt. Could be. I worry it! But I don’t think that’s it.

Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]

Too much wanting pretty much is needing.

Your argument is the equivalent of arguing that sluts would just fuck anybody.

They dont, the fuck as high upwards as possible.

A needy man would not just “relationship” anybody too, they go as high as they can get.

Now, as for how high his SMP might be, you have already been with one paper alpha.

To realize his potential, he would have to know its there, if he does not, he could be a total beta shlub in a nice package.

Getting a bit clingy seems to indicate that he does not know that he is enough. [/quote]

But doesn’t it all depend upon what your definition of value is when you determine what is the highest you can get?

I think it does. [/quote]

That’s an interesting question… I’ve always been interested in people I consider way out of my league, like “10s” or at least solid “9s” in my mind. LOL [/quote]

based on what criteria?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Really? Under what circumstances? Is this a myth, meant to confuse women further? As if your regular incomprehensible behavior isn’t enough!

Because once again I find myself doing a deer-in-the-headlights thing as someone begins pushing in that direction, i.e. exclusivity. And we’ve been seeing each other only briefly, no sex.

So my question for the board is, how is this best handled?

I don’t understand men. Except orion.
[/quote]

Well, either you are super awesome or he needs a woman in his life.

Any woman really. [/quote]

I think he just wants someone around to pick up his dirty socks, that JERK. I’m going to send him a note right now, stating very firmly that THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER FRIENDSHIP.

And P.S. I only say I understand you because you’ve spent a lot of time explaining yourself. I think you could probably say the same of me, no? So don’t be mean.
[/quote]

Why am I mean.

Either you are one in a thousand and he goes for it or he needs to latch on to a woman.

Maybe a bit of both.

I think you understand people who need, need, NEED to be in a relationship a lot better than I do.

[/quote]

Some people might want, want, WANT to be in a relationship.

I was last minimally involved with this guy a year and a half or so ago. At that time, he was coming out of what sounded like some transitional post-divorce stuff. I didn’t and don’t see him as desperate, as he has definite market value and if he only wanted a relationship, any relationship, would have one. He also chooses to live in our remote area rather than in the urban settings where most of his work is centered, which suggests that a relationship is not at the top of his priority list.

Now, one possibility is that he enjoys cat-and-mousing goofy, earnest women for the entertainment value it provides and isn’t interested in a relationship at all. If so there’s a chance that I’ll wind up being drawn in and will ultimately be spectacularly hurt. Could be. I worry it! But I don’t think that’s it.

Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]

Too much wanting pretty much is needing.

Your argument is the equivalent of arguing that sluts would just fuck anybody.

They dont, the fuck as high upwards as possible.

A needy man would not just “relationship” anybody too, they go as high as they can get.

Now, as for how high his SMP might be, you have already been with one paper alpha.

To realize his potential, he would have to know its there, if he does not, he could be a total beta shlub in a nice package.

Getting a bit clingy seems to indicate that he does not know that he is enough. [/quote]

But doesn’t it all depend upon what your definition of value is when you determine what is the highest you can get?

I think it does. [/quote]

That’s an interesting question… I’ve always been interested in people I consider way out of my league, like “10s” or at least solid “9s” in my mind. LOL [/quote]

You seem to be a woman.

Of course you are.[/quote]

Are you saying that we aren’t interested in dating women out of our own league? If I’m just looking to hook up I might drop my standards to a 6 but if I’m looking for something more I definitely wouldn’t be settling either.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]
Men are so, so simple. Women create a plethora of complexities for them that don’t actually exist.[/quote]
I’ll compound this with the statement that, extrinsically, men will paint upon themselves complexities that are, in essence, merely peripheral to their sex drive. An image simply put. Intrinsic complexity is a different topic.[/quote]

You’re saying there’s not internal complexity?

I don’t know if I believe this. Depending upon the man, of course.[/quote]

I’m very straight forward. I know what I want and rarely swayed by wishy washy feelings.

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[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Really? Under what circumstances? Is this a myth, meant to confuse women further? As if your regular incomprehensible behavior isn’t enough!

Because once again I find myself doing a deer-in-the-headlights thing as someone begins pushing in that direction, i.e. exclusivity. And we’ve been seeing each other only briefly, no sex.

So my question for the board is, how is this best handled?

I don’t understand men. Except orion.
[/quote]

Well, either you are super awesome or he needs a woman in his life.

Any woman really. [/quote]

I think he just wants someone around to pick up his dirty socks, that JERK. I’m going to send him a note right now, stating very firmly that THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER FRIENDSHIP.

And P.S. I only say I understand you because you’ve spent a lot of time explaining yourself. I think you could probably say the same of me, no? So don’t be mean.
[/quote]

Why am I mean.

Either you are one in a thousand and he goes for it or he needs to latch on to a woman.

Maybe a bit of both.

I think you understand people who need, need, NEED to be in a relationship a lot better than I do.

[/quote]

Some people might want, want, WANT to be in a relationship.

I was last minimally involved with this guy a year and a half or so ago. At that time, he was coming out of what sounded like some transitional post-divorce stuff. I didn’t and don’t see him as desperate, as he has definite market value and if he only wanted a relationship, any relationship, would have one. He also chooses to live in our remote area rather than in the urban settings where most of his work is centered, which suggests that a relationship is not at the top of his priority list.

Now, one possibility is that he enjoys cat-and-mousing goofy, earnest women for the entertainment value it provides and isn’t interested in a relationship at all. If so there’s a chance that I’ll wind up being drawn in and will ultimately be spectacularly hurt. Could be. I worry it! But I don’t think that’s it.

Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]

Too much wanting pretty much is needing.

Your argument is the equivalent of arguing that sluts would just fuck anybody.

They dont, the fuck as high upwards as possible.

A needy man would not just “relationship” anybody too, they go as high as they can get.

Now, as for how high his SMP might be, you have already been with one paper alpha.

To realize his potential, he would have to know its there, if he does not, he could be a total beta shlub in a nice package.

Getting a bit clingy seems to indicate that he does not know that he is enough. [/quote]

But doesn’t it all depend upon what your definition of value is when you determine what is the highest you can get?

I think it does. [/quote]

That’s an interesting question… I’ve always been interested in people I consider way out of my league, like “10s” or at least solid “9s” in my mind. LOL [/quote]

You seem to be a woman.

Of course you are.[/quote]

Are you saying that we aren’t interested in dating women out of our own league? If I’m just looking to hook up I might drop my standards to a 6 but if I’m looking for something more I definitely wouldn’t be settling either. [/quote]

You cant get a woman out of your league.

You can get a woman in your league.

A woman however can bat above her league if she uses agressive sexuality, i.e. if she sluts it up.

You slut it up and see where it gets you.

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[quote]orion wrote:
You cant get a woman out of your league.

You can get a woman in your league.
[/quote]
Makes sense given semantics.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Really? Under what circumstances? Is this a myth, meant to confuse women further? As if your regular incomprehensible behavior isn’t enough!

Because once again I find myself doing a deer-in-the-headlights thing as someone begins pushing in that direction, i.e. exclusivity. And we’ve been seeing each other only briefly, no sex.

So my question for the board is, how is this best handled?

I don’t understand men. Except orion.
[/quote]

Well, either you are super awesome or he needs a woman in his life.

Any woman really. [/quote]

I think he just wants someone around to pick up his dirty socks, that JERK. I’m going to send him a note right now, stating very firmly that THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER FRIENDSHIP.

And P.S. I only say I understand you because you’ve spent a lot of time explaining yourself. I think you could probably say the same of me, no? So don’t be mean.
[/quote]

Why am I mean.

Either you are one in a thousand and he goes for it or he needs to latch on to a woman.

Maybe a bit of both.

I think you understand people who need, need, NEED to be in a relationship a lot better than I do.

[/quote]

Some people might want, want, WANT to be in a relationship.

I was last minimally involved with this guy a year and a half or so ago. At that time, he was coming out of what sounded like some transitional post-divorce stuff. I didn’t and don’t see him as desperate, as he has definite market value and if he only wanted a relationship, any relationship, would have one. He also chooses to live in our remote area rather than in the urban settings where most of his work is centered, which suggests that a relationship is not at the top of his priority list.

Now, one possibility is that he enjoys cat-and-mousing goofy, earnest women for the entertainment value it provides and isn’t interested in a relationship at all. If so there’s a chance that I’ll wind up being drawn in and will ultimately be spectacularly hurt. Could be. I worry it! But I don’t think that’s it.

Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]

Too much wanting pretty much is needing.

Your argument is the equivalent of arguing that sluts would just fuck anybody.

They dont, the fuck as high upwards as possible.

A needy man would not just “relationship” anybody too, they go as high as they can get.

Now, as for how high his SMP might be, you have already been with one paper alpha.

To realize his potential, he would have to know its there, if he does not, he could be a total beta shlub in a nice package.

Getting a bit clingy seems to indicate that he does not know that he is enough. [/quote]

But doesn’t it all depend upon what your definition of value is when you determine what is the highest you can get?

I think it does. [/quote]

That’s an interesting question… I’ve always been interested in people I consider way out of my league, like “10s” or at least solid “9s” in my mind. LOL [/quote]

You seem to be a woman.

Of course you are.[/quote]

Are you saying that we aren’t interested in dating women out of our own league? If I’m just looking to hook up I might drop my standards to a 6 but if I’m looking for something more I definitely wouldn’t be settling either. [/quote]

You cant get a woman out of your league.

You can get a woman in your league.

A woman however can bat above her league if she uses agressive sexuality, i.e. if she sluts it up.

You slut it up and see where it gets you. [/quote]

A woman who sluts up trying to get a man above her has a limited shelf life.

Her looks fade, or she runs her mouth too much, and the guy trades her in like an old Hyundai.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Really? Under what circumstances? Is this a myth, meant to confuse women further? As if your regular incomprehensible behavior isn’t enough!

Because once again I find myself doing a deer-in-the-headlights thing as someone begins pushing in that direction, i.e. exclusivity. And we’ve been seeing each other only briefly, no sex.

So my question for the board is, how is this best handled?

I don’t understand men. Except orion.
[/quote]

Well, either you are super awesome or he needs a woman in his life.

Any woman really. [/quote]

I think he just wants someone around to pick up his dirty socks, that JERK. I’m going to send him a note right now, stating very firmly that THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER FRIENDSHIP.

And P.S. I only say I understand you because you’ve spent a lot of time explaining yourself. I think you could probably say the same of me, no? So don’t be mean.
[/quote]

Why am I mean.

Either you are one in a thousand and he goes for it or he needs to latch on to a woman.

Maybe a bit of both.

I think you understand people who need, need, NEED to be in a relationship a lot better than I do.

[/quote]

Some people might want, want, WANT to be in a relationship.

I was last minimally involved with this guy a year and a half or so ago. At that time, he was coming out of what sounded like some transitional post-divorce stuff. I didn’t and don’t see him as desperate, as he has definite market value and if he only wanted a relationship, any relationship, would have one. He also chooses to live in our remote area rather than in the urban settings where most of his work is centered, which suggests that a relationship is not at the top of his priority list.

Now, one possibility is that he enjoys cat-and-mousing goofy, earnest women for the entertainment value it provides and isn’t interested in a relationship at all. If so there’s a chance that I’ll wind up being drawn in and will ultimately be spectacularly hurt. Could be. I worry it! But I don’t think that’s it.

Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]

Too much wanting pretty much is needing.

Your argument is the equivalent of arguing that sluts would just fuck anybody.

They dont, the fuck as high upwards as possible.

A needy man would not just “relationship” anybody too, they go as high as they can get.

Now, as for how high his SMP might be, you have already been with one paper alpha.

To realize his potential, he would have to know its there, if he does not, he could be a total beta shlub in a nice package.

Getting a bit clingy seems to indicate that he does not know that he is enough. [/quote]

But doesn’t it all depend upon what your definition of value is when you determine what is the highest you can get?

I think it does. [/quote]

That’s an interesting question… I’ve always been interested in people I consider way out of my league, like “10s” or at least solid “9s” in my mind. LOL [/quote]

You seem to be a woman.

Of course you are.[/quote]

Are you saying that we aren’t interested in dating women out of our own league? If I’m just looking to hook up I might drop my standards to a 6 but if I’m looking for something more I definitely wouldn’t be settling either. [/quote]

You cant get a woman out of your league.

You can get a woman in your league.

A woman however can bat above her league if she uses agressive sexuality, i.e. if she sluts it up.

You slut it up and see where it gets you. [/quote]

A woman who sluts up trying to get a man above her has a limited shelf life.

Her looks fade, or she runs her mouth too much, and the guy trades her in like an old Hyundai.
[/quote]

Yes.

But they do not seem to get that.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
He’s a nice guy, hopefully it will go down well.

[/quote]

Not very likely[/quote]

It did! Not a problem at all. Possibly a positive result, if anything.[/quote]

Sorry, we misunderstand each other. I’m saying the whole relationship won’t go down well for him.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]
Men are so, so simple. Women create a plethora of complexities for them that don’t actually exist.[/quote]

Sandwich, blowjob, dont fuck around, done.

How hard is it really?

Now, homecooked meal, blowjob in schoolgirl uniform and impeccable reputation, but who am I kidding?

[/quote]

That doesn’t always work. [/quote]

WITH WHO?[/quote]

Well, the man I’ve recently ended things with, for one.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Really? Under what circumstances? Is this a myth, meant to confuse women further? As if your regular incomprehensible behavior isn’t enough!

Because once again I find myself doing a deer-in-the-headlights thing as someone begins pushing in that direction, i.e. exclusivity. And we’ve been seeing each other only briefly, no sex.

So my question for the board is, how is this best handled?

I don’t understand men. Except orion.
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Well, either you are super awesome or he needs a woman in his life.

Any woman really. [/quote]

I think he just wants someone around to pick up his dirty socks, that JERK. I’m going to send him a note right now, stating very firmly that THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER FRIENDSHIP.

And P.S. I only say I understand you because you’ve spent a lot of time explaining yourself. I think you could probably say the same of me, no? So don’t be mean.
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Why am I mean.

Either you are one in a thousand and he goes for it or he needs to latch on to a woman.

Maybe a bit of both.

I think you understand people who need, need, NEED to be in a relationship a lot better than I do.

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Some people might want, want, WANT to be in a relationship.

I was last minimally involved with this guy a year and a half or so ago. At that time, he was coming out of what sounded like some transitional post-divorce stuff. I didn’t and don’t see him as desperate, as he has definite market value and if he only wanted a relationship, any relationship, would have one. He also chooses to live in our remote area rather than in the urban settings where most of his work is centered, which suggests that a relationship is not at the top of his priority list.

Now, one possibility is that he enjoys cat-and-mousing goofy, earnest women for the entertainment value it provides and isn’t interested in a relationship at all. If so there’s a chance that I’ll wind up being drawn in and will ultimately be spectacularly hurt. Could be. I worry it! But I don’t think that’s it.

Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]

Too much wanting pretty much is needing.

Your argument is the equivalent of arguing that sluts would just fuck anybody.

They dont, the fuck as high upwards as possible.

A needy man would not just “relationship” anybody too, they go as high as they can get.

Now, as for how high his SMP might be, you have already been with one paper alpha.

To realize his potential, he would have to know its there, if he does not, he could be a total beta shlub in a nice package.

Getting a bit clingy seems to indicate that he does not know that he is enough. [/quote]

But doesn’t it all depend upon what your definition of value is when you determine what is the highest you can get?

I think it does. [/quote]

That’s an interesting question… I’ve always been interested in people I consider way out of my league, like “10s” or at least solid “9s” in my mind. LOL [/quote]

You seem to be a woman.

Of course you are.[/quote]

Are you saying that we aren’t interested in dating women out of our own league? If I’m just looking to hook up I might drop my standards to a 6 but if I’m looking for something more I definitely wouldn’t be settling either. [/quote]

You cant get a woman out of your league.

You can get a woman in your league.

A woman however can bat above her league if she uses agressive sexuality, i.e. if she sluts it up.

You slut it up and see where it gets you. [/quote]

A woman who sluts up trying to get a man above her has a limited shelf life.

Her looks fade, or she runs her mouth too much, and the guy trades her in like an old Hyundai.
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In my opinion, neither of them have gotten someone with very much intrinsic value. They’ve each managed to score a shallow and selfish love interest.