Men afraid of commitment?

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
If we had tag lines here I might use that. “Classic nerd.” lol

Your back is incredible, btw.[/quote]

How about “nerd chic”? :D[/quote]

“Awkward dork.”

Edit: although I’m only awkward around men I perceive as having romantic interest, or who are interesting to me in that way. Otherwise I’m pretty chill.[/quote]

I have always found awkwardness in a chick endearing. Problem is when it makes me laugh, a lot of times this is perceived as me laughing at them from whatever pedestal of cool they then assume I have propped myself on just get pissed. Actually, most of the time it is just making me smile and drawing a laugh because I found it cute.[/quote]

If a woman is awkward around me, it just means they are fucked up weirdos. Or they actually stutter because they have a stutter, or they drool because they are bored shitless, or they play with their hair because it has a tangle.[/quote]

Haha come on. It cant be that bad. And by awkward I didn’t exactly mean a drooling, mumbling mess with a facial tic. You’ll get it man. Dating and relationships are not supposed to be hard initially. They should just kind of come to you. [/quote]

Oh, I am married now. I was just reminiscing. The fact that women are not attracted to me does not matter anymore.
I like cars and guns, they are just as much fun and they don’t bitch.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Em, just curious but where do you live? Which state? Or if you’re uncomfortable being specific, which is fine by me, what region of the US?[/quote]

Ha ha ha!

I just asked that, and got shot down. [/quote]

I’m sorry! I just worry. A) working with kids and talking about sex on here. B) I think I make people mad with my posts sometimes. Once or twice I’ve gone after another poster pretty vigorously. And everything is always very hush-hush around here when there’s an issue but there seems to be some talk of female posters being stalked or harassed or something?

Maybe I’m just being paranoid. No one’s ever sent me a dick pic or indicated in any way that they’d like to stalk me, so it probably would never be a problem, but I feel cautious.

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Hey, no problem.

But the obvious solution would be for you to get your G+ stuff straight and join us. (I confess to a desire to know you better! :-)[/quote]

I can’t get it straight!

This is what I got back JUST NOW when I tried again:

[quote]Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain aol.com by mailin-01.mx.aol.com. [64.12.90.1].

The error that the other server returned was:
550 5.1.1 testy1@aol.com: Recipient address rejected: aol.com[/quote]

For the love of god, this is like my FOUR THOUSANDTH try.

Heading out for the day. I’ll put my email address back up when someone from G+ is online at the same time I am.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:
Two things I’d like to say on the topic. Men are not afraid of commitment, they either choose to not commit for not wanting to compromise their personal freedom or because committing to a woman is and investment. Much like any investment you can’t park the same money twice. If you want a man to invest in you be worth it. Give frequent blowjobs, make him feel good and confident and encourage him to follow his dreams and don’t force him to compromise things he enjoys. If a man doesn’t want to commit it is because the girl doesn’t give enough BJ’s or make him feel like Hercules. Or he doesn’t want to give up video games, Internet porn and casual sex, mainly because the girl in question may not be better than those things, or giving frequent enough BJ’s. bare min BJ quota is once a week. I don’t say this for shock or to be gross, it’s just true. Almost any man will give up a hobby and most of his casual friends for an annual 52 BJ minimum guarantee.

Second thing: harrypotter is a creepy trolling weirdo and should never be taken seriously. [/quote]

There is of course something else.

Show me the man who does not have a spring in his step if his schlong is worshipped like a god on the regular.

It really is a tiny investement for the woman and makes a hyyyyyoooooge difference for the man.

A woman who cannot go out of her way for 30 minutes each week, which would cover 2-3 Blojays, is not a keeper.

Imagine if she had to put some real effort in.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Two things I’d like to say on the topic. Men are not afraid of commitment, they either choose to not commit for not wanting to compromise their personal freedom or because committing to a woman is and investment. Much like any investment you can’t park the same money twice. If you want a man to invest in you be worth it. Give frequent blowjobs, make him feel good and confident and encourage him to follow his dreams and don’t force him to compromise things he enjoys. If a man doesn’t want to commit it is because the girl doesn’t give enough BJ’s or make him feel like Hercules. Or he doesn’t want to give up video games, Internet porn and casual sex, mainly because the girl in question may not be better than those things, or giving frequent enough BJ’s. bare min BJ quota is once a week. I don’t say this for shock or to be gross, it’s just true. Almost any man will give up a hobby and most of his casual friends for an annual 52 BJ minimum guarantee.

Second thing: harrypotter is a creepy trolling weirdo and should never be taken seriously. [/quote]

There is of course something else.

Show me the man who does not have a spring in his step if his schlong is worshipped like a god on the regular.

It really is a tiny invesrement for the woman and makes a hyyyyyoooooge difference for the man.

A woman who cannot go out of her way for 30 minutes each week, which would cover 2-3 Blojays, is not a keeper.

Imagine if she had to put some real effort in. [/quote]

So what you’re saying that if you were getting blown on the regular you wouldn’t be so bitter? Maybe you DO need women more than you know…

:wink:

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Em, just curious but where do you live? Which state? Or if you’re uncomfortable being specific, which is fine by me, what region of the US?[/quote]

Ha ha ha!

I just asked that, and got shot down. [/quote]

I’m sorry! I just worry. A) working with kids and talking about sex on here. B) I think I make people mad with my posts sometimes. Once or twice I’ve gone after another poster pretty vigorously. And everything is always very hush-hush around here when there’s an issue but there seems to be some talk of female posters being stalked or harassed or something?

[/quote]

That happened once and went nowhere.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Two things I’d like to say on the topic. Men are not afraid of commitment, they either choose to not commit for not wanting to compromise their personal freedom or because committing to a woman is and investment. Much like any investment you can’t park the same money twice. If you want a man to invest in you be worth it. Give frequent blowjobs, make him feel good and confident and encourage him to follow his dreams and don’t force him to compromise things he enjoys. If a man doesn’t want to commit it is because the girl doesn’t give enough BJ’s or make him feel like Hercules. Or he doesn’t want to give up video games, Internet porn and casual sex, mainly because the girl in question may not be better than those things, or giving frequent enough BJ’s. bare min BJ quota is once a week. I don’t say this for shock or to be gross, it’s just true. Almost any man will give up a hobby and most of his casual friends for an annual 52 BJ minimum guarantee.

Second thing: harrypotter is a creepy trolling weirdo and should never be taken seriously. [/quote]

There is of course something else.

Show me the man who does not have a spring in his step if his schlong is worshipped like a god on the regular.

It really is a tiny invesrement for the woman and makes a hyyyyyoooooge difference for the man.

A woman who cannot go out of her way for 30 minutes each week, which would cover 2-3 Blojays, is not a keeper.

Imagine if she had to put some real effort in. [/quote]

So what you’re saying that if you were getting blown on the regular you wouldn’t be so bitter? Maybe you DO need women more than you know…

:wink:
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I am not bitter.

And I have a list of female shaming tactics.

Thinking about it, I am bitter.

I knew a woman who could do miracles in that department.

I will never meet someone as talented as her ever again.

Not that I have not set plenty of women on the right path when it comes to making the blojays, but you simply cannot teach raw talent.

My best blojays are in the past, I iz bitter.

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[quote]orion wrote:

My best blojays are in the past, I iz bitter. [/quote]

Sowwy :frowning:

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[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
And a man a woman does not need to change, is a man she does not need to waste her time on.[/quote]
Wait… what? I’m not sure I get it.[/quote]

You no challenge —> she no interested.

You no understand, I borrow Prof X crayons.

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That post created a double meaning. That’s why I asked. I don’t see how being a challenge is equivalent to her feeling the need to change you but whatever.[/quote]

Ah.

Sorry, thats a quality question, no crayons for you.

Women want to change you.

Infamous shittests and whatnot.

If they have succesfully changed you, they are no longer interested.

You need tension, friction that creates the spark sexual energy thrives on. [/quote]

I’ve never wanted, nor have tried, to change someone ever. [/quote]

Bull…Shit… Maybe you aren’t aware of it, but you do. It’s your womanly duty. Every time you keep your husband at home when he’d rather be with his friends or think his friends are immature, or he wanted to watch football but you wanted to go shopping, you are working on changing him. But he doesn’t change, he broods resentment that will come out in an argument later. I am no amateur. I know how this shit works.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

I’ve never wanted, nor have tried, to change someone ever.

[/quote]

Then you are the first of several billion women.

[/quote]

I wonder if this has to do with the work we do. I definitely tried to change my ex-husband in order for the relationship to survive, but it was more like FIGURE OUT YOUR SHIT at the end.

With the more recent boyfriend I didn’t try, I ended the relationship. Major change has to come from him, which is something I didn’t know when I married my ex-husband, who also tried to change me. I suppose the boyfriend was even more interested in doing that in some ways.

I made small changes for both of them. Some positive for me, some not. They did the same. You can’t be in an intimate relationship without flexibility. If a folded rather than crumpled dish towel is what I need to be happy and Saturday afternoons at a pub during college football season is what you need, why not make each other happy?

But changing a personality or character isn’t going to happen in a romantic relationship. One has to do that for oneself. I’m assuming that’s the kind of change Sturg is talking about.[/quote]

See but you are not attracted to the guy who you really wouldn’t need to change, who is sensitive to your needs and wants. Who is willing to paint your nails and do a good job. You simply aren’t attracted to that guy.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Em, just curious but where do you live? Which state? Or if you’re uncomfortable being specific, which is fine by me, what region of the US?[/quote]

Ha ha ha!

I just asked that, and got shot down. [/quote]

I’m sorry! I just worry. A) working with kids and talking about sex on here. B) I think I make people mad with my posts sometimes. Once or twice I’ve gone after another poster pretty vigorously. And everything is always very hush-hush around here when there’s an issue but there seems to be some talk of female posters being stalked or harassed or something?

Maybe I’m just being paranoid. No one’s ever sent me a dick pic or indicated in any way that they’d like to stalk me, so it probably would never be a problem, but I feel cautious.

[/quote]

I actually do not blame you. I am typically scared for single women because they tend to be such easy targets. If I had my way, single women would be heavily armed and well trained to use it. My daughter will be when she comes of age. I will absolutely insist she carry deadly force and not be afraid to use it.
Your fear isn’t totally unjustified please get a gun, get self protection training, and carry it always everywhere. I get so pissed when my wife ‘forgets’ to carry her gun. It’s not a joke, there are serious assholes out there and you never know when you can become a victim. It’s totally in your power to prevent it. They make pink guns you know. A nice .380 is easy to use and it plenty of protection. It’s the best investment in self protection you will ever make. Nobody is scared of pepper spray, get a gun and do in soon.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

or they play with their hair because it has a tangle.[/quote]

This made me laugh. [/quote]

Have split-ends do you?

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

I’ve never wanted, nor have tried, to change someone ever.

[/quote]

Then you are the first of several billion women.

[/quote]
Again I wonder how aware many women are of it. A man may see huge flashing lights for him to change his behavior based off things a woman might not see as trying to change him at all.[/quote]

I would say most women aren’t aware of it and if they are accused would deny it vehemently. In many cases men do it gladly, but it always tends to go to far where it’s starts to encroach on who you are. Then the fights start.

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This thread seems to have spawn a bunch of relationship threads…Good job Em. You started a trend.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Two things I’d like to say on the topic. Men are not afraid of commitment, they either choose to not commit for not wanting to compromise their personal freedom or because committing to a woman is and investment. Much like any investment you can’t park the same money twice. If you want a man to invest in you be worth it. Give frequent blowjobs, make him feel good and confident and encourage him to follow his dreams and don’t force him to compromise things he enjoys. If a man doesn’t want to commit it is because the girl doesn’t give enough BJ’s or make him feel like Hercules. Or he doesn’t want to give up video games, Internet porn and casual sex, mainly because the girl in question may not be better than those things, or giving frequent enough BJ’s. bare min BJ quota is once a week. I don’t say this for shock or to be gross, it’s just true. Almost any man will give up a hobby and most of his casual friends for an annual 52 BJ minimum guarantee.

Second thing: harrypotter is a creepy trolling weirdo and should never be taken seriously. [/quote]

There is of course something else.

Show me the man who does not have a spring in his step if his schlong is worshipped like a god on the regular.

It really is a tiny investement for the woman and makes a hyyyyyoooooge difference for the man.

A woman who cannot go out of her way for 30 minutes each week, which would cover 2-3 Blojays, is not a keeper.

Imagine if she had to put some real effort in. [/quote]

So, do you mean 2-3 to completion? Or not necessarily to completion, but as a part of the usual menu of foreplay and sometimes all the way?

A question I have, if to completion, is whether that means that she’s getting significantly less sex than you and if it’s enough for her?

I’m sort of under the impression that BJs are standard nowadays, at least here. But that assumes a healthy, happy relationship, I guess? She should have a spring in her step, too, no? I know I was floating when everything was working the way it was supposed to. How can a woman NOT hero-worship someone who makes her feel good in her mind and her heart and her body?

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Two things I’d like to say on the topic. Men are not afraid of commitment, they either choose to not commit for not wanting to compromise their personal freedom or because committing to a woman is and investment. Much like any investment you can’t park the same money twice. If you want a man to invest in you be worth it. Give frequent blowjobs, make him feel good and confident and encourage him to follow his dreams and don’t force him to compromise things he enjoys. If a man doesn’t want to commit it is because the girl doesn’t give enough BJ’s or make him feel like Hercules. Or he doesn’t want to give up video games, Internet porn and casual sex, mainly because the girl in question may not be better than those things, or giving frequent enough BJ’s. bare min BJ quota is once a week. I don’t say this for shock or to be gross, it’s just true. Almost any man will give up a hobby and most of his casual friends for an annual 52 BJ minimum guarantee.

Second thing: harrypotter is a creepy trolling weirdo and should never be taken seriously. [/quote]

There is of course something else.

Show me the man who does not have a spring in his step if his schlong is worshipped like a god on the regular.

It really is a tiny investement for the woman and makes a hyyyyyoooooge difference for the man.

A woman who cannot go out of her way for 30 minutes each week, which would cover 2-3 Blojays, is not a keeper.

Imagine if she had to put some real effort in. [/quote]

So, do you mean 2-3 to completion? Or not necessarily to completion, but as a part of the usual menu of foreplay and sometimes all the way?

A question I have, if to completion, is whether that means that she’s getting significantly less sex than you and if it’s enough for her?

I’m sort of under the impression that BJs are standard nowadays, at least here. But that assumes a healthy, happy relationship, I guess? She should have a spring in her step, too, no? I know I was floating when everything was working the way it was supposed to. How can a woman NOT hero-worship someone who makes her feel good in her mind and her heart and her body?

[/quote]

I am wavering a bit on the completion part.

Be that as it may, I am a cunning linguist.

I am also a bit mindboggled, so you say that there are women out there who want sex more often than me?

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[quote]pat wrote:
They make pink guns you know. A nice .380 [/quote]
Really? I happen to like my Smith & Wesson .357/.38 caliber with a 6 inch barrel. :wink:

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
If we had tag lines here I might use that. “Classic nerd.” lol

Your back is incredible, btw.[/quote]

How about “nerd chic”? :D[/quote]

“Awkward dork.”

Edit: although I’m only awkward around men I perceive as having romantic interest, or who are interesting to me in that way. Otherwise I’m pretty chill.[/quote]

I have always found awkwardness in a chick endearing. Problem is when it makes me laugh, a lot of times this is perceived as me laughing at them from whatever pedestal of cool they then assume I have propped myself on just get pissed. Actually, most of the time it is just making me smile and drawing a laugh because I found it cute.[/quote]

I’ve been thinking about you this weekend because I’ve been hanging out with the hunter guy, and damn near every time he looks at me, he laughs. I’m pretty funny (on purpose) so that’s part of it, but I’m not funny on purpose when there’s close physical proximity or when he says stuff that I don’t know how to respond to. Then I have to do this slow, painful trying-to-think process, and I don’t EVER come up with anything. It’s like there’s no data stored in the Sexual Innuendo Comeback or Post-Kiss sections of my brain for me to retrieve. So I stand there blankly (PAINFULLY) until I finally have to look away to regroup and then change the subject to something completely apropos of nothing. And he’s laughing! God. Embarrassing.

But he likes me, that’s very clear, so while my own ridiculous incompetence bothers me, his laughter doesn’t.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
If we had tag lines here I might use that. “Classic nerd.” lol

Your back is incredible, btw.[/quote]

How about “nerd chic”? :D[/quote]

“Awkward dork.”

Edit: although I’m only awkward around men I perceive as having romantic interest, or who are interesting to me in that way. Otherwise I’m pretty chill.[/quote]

I have always found awkwardness in a chick endearing. Problem is when it makes me laugh, a lot of times this is perceived as me laughing at them from whatever pedestal of cool they then assume I have propped myself on just get pissed. Actually, most of the time it is just making me smile and drawing a laugh because I found it cute.[/quote]

I’ve been thinking about you this weekend because I’ve been hanging out with the hunter guy, and damn near every time he looks at me, he laughs. I’m pretty funny (on purpose) so that’s part of it, but I’m not funny on purpose when there’s close physical proximity or when he says stuff that I don’t know how to respond to. Then I have to do this slow, painful trying-to-think process, and I don’t EVER come up with anything. It’s like there’s no data stored in the Sexual Innuendo Comeback or Post-Kiss sections of my brain for me to retrieve. So I stand there blankly (PAINFULLY) until I finally have to look away to regroup and then change the subject to something completely apropos of nothing. And he’s laughing! God. Embarrassing.

But he likes me, that’s very clear, so while my own ridiculous incompetence bothers me, his laughter doesn’t.

[/quote]

LOL! You are so funny. :slight_smile:

It sounds like you might like this guy!

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Two things I’d like to say on the topic. Men are not afraid of commitment, they either choose to not commit for not wanting to compromise their personal freedom or because committing to a woman is and investment. Much like any investment you can’t park the same money twice. If you want a man to invest in you be worth it. Give frequent blowjobs, make him feel good and confident and encourage him to follow his dreams and don’t force him to compromise things he enjoys. If a man doesn’t want to commit it is because the girl doesn’t give enough BJ’s or make him feel like Hercules. Or he doesn’t want to give up video games, Internet porn and casual sex, mainly because the girl in question may not be better than those things, or giving frequent enough BJ’s. bare min BJ quota is once a week. I don’t say this for shock or to be gross, it’s just true. Almost any man will give up a hobby and most of his casual friends for an annual 52 BJ minimum guarantee.

Second thing: harrypotter is a creepy trolling weirdo and should never be taken seriously. [/quote]

There is of course something else.

Show me the man who does not have a spring in his step if his schlong is worshipped like a god on the regular.

It really is a tiny investement for the woman and makes a hyyyyyoooooge difference for the man.

A woman who cannot go out of her way for 30 minutes each week, which would cover 2-3 Blojays, is not a keeper.

Imagine if she had to put some real effort in. [/quote]

So, do you mean 2-3 to completion? Or not necessarily to completion, but as a part of the usual menu of foreplay and sometimes all the way?

A question I have, if to completion, is whether that means that she’s getting significantly less sex than you and if it’s enough for her?

I’m sort of under the impression that BJs are standard nowadays, at least here. But that assumes a healthy, happy relationship, I guess? She should have a spring in her step, too, no? I know I was floating when everything was working the way it was supposed to. How can a woman NOT hero-worship someone who makes her feel good in her mind and her heart and her body?

[/quote]

I am wavering a bit on the completion part.

Be that as it may, I am a cunning linguist.

I am also a bit mindboggled, so you say that there are women out there who want sex more often than me?[/quote]

Well, I don’t know how often you want it, but I can’t imagine there aren’t women out there who want it as much. Sex is pretty good fun, IMO. What better is there to do on a cold night or morning, in a tent in summertime, or the kitchen while dinner is cooking? To me, ideally, it’s an expression of love and giving, and that’s part of the delight of it.

So once again I go back to healthy girls vs. not healthy. I tend to think that many promiscuous girls and women are looking for something that is not sex and the endless rejections and whatever set them on that path in the first place ruin sex for them (it gets tied up in guilt and shame). Of course, a lot of completely undamaged women like to have sex and pursue it for its own sake, without wanting anything more. That’s fine.