Men afraid of commitment?

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

Sturg, how do you squeeze your toothpaste?[/quote]

I’m a bit neurotic so I actually use a toothpaste roller thingy, like the one pictured above. [/quote]

I think we’ve established that women squeeze the tube in the middle and men squeeze it from the bottom, which is the sensible way. For me this just reinforces my suspicions that you’re actually a dude. Because not only are you squeezing from the bottom but you’re using a tool to maximize efficiency. So not only are you a man. You are a megggggaaaaaa man. [/quote]

Do I intimidate you, Titan?

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

Sturg, how do you squeeze your toothpaste?[/quote]

I’m a bit neurotic so I actually use a toothpaste roller thingy, like the one pictured above. [/quote]

I think we’ve established that women squeeze the tube in the middle and men squeeze it from the bottom, which is the sensible way. For me this just reinforces my suspicions that you’re actually a dude. Because not only are you squeezing from the bottom but you’re using a tool to maximize efficiency. So not only are you a man. You are a megggggaaaaaa man. [/quote]

Do I intimidate you, Titan? [/quote]

Do I find you intimidating? No. Do I find you sexy? Hell yeah.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

Sturg, how do you squeeze your toothpaste?[/quote]

I’m a bit neurotic so I actually use a toothpaste roller thingy, like the one pictured above. [/quote]

Jesus, I used to run the tube over a hard straight edge to get the same result. This is a revelation. It also kinda pisses me off that I didn’t think of it. [/quote]

I use a toothbrush handle as a squeegee to force the remainder up the tube. Hard to believe people are so OCD about this.[/quote]

I agree. It’s easier to just beat it with a hammer.[/quote]

That just moves the paste around in the tube. You’ll be hammering for hours to get it right.[/quote]

Oh no, you just got to learn to be good with your hammer!

Are you good with your hammer? Huh?[/quote]

I’m very good with my hammer.

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

Sturg, how do you squeeze your toothpaste?[/quote]

I’m a bit neurotic so I actually use a toothpaste roller thingy, like the one pictured above. [/quote]

I think we’ve established that women squeeze the tube in the middle and men squeeze it from the bottom, which is the sensible way. For me this just reinforces my suspicions that you’re actually a dude. Because not only are you squeezing from the bottom but you’re using a tool to maximize efficiency. So not only are you a man. You are a megggggaaaaaa man. [/quote]

Do I intimidate you, Titan? [/quote]

Do I find you intimidating? No. Do I find you sexy? Hell yeah. [/quote]

Probably even sexier now that you have confirmed that WhiteSturgeon is not just a man, but a megggggaaaaaa man.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

Sturg, how do you squeeze your toothpaste?[/quote]

I’m a bit neurotic so I actually use a toothpaste roller thingy, like the one pictured above. [/quote]

I think we’ve established that women squeeze the tube in the middle and men squeeze it from the bottom, which is the sensible way. For me this just reinforces my suspicions that you’re actually a dude. Because not only are you squeezing from the bottom but you’re using a tool to maximize efficiency. So not only are you a man. You are a megggggaaaaaa man. [/quote]

Do I intimidate you, Titan? [/quote]

Do I find you intimidating? No. Do I find you sexy? Hell yeah. [/quote]

Probably even sexier now that you have confirmed that WhiteSturgeon is not just a man, but a megggggaaaaaa man. [/quote]
He wants to fart whistles.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

Henry Rollins sums them up pretty well with this-

,and then it’s on to the next one.
[/quote]

Auuuggghhh! That’s it, I’m telling everyone to fuck off!

The Beth! TheBeth! Where are you??[/quote]

Holy shit hilarious goddamn I love Henry Rollins!

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

Sturg, how do you squeeze your toothpaste?[/quote]

I’m a bit neurotic so I actually use a toothpaste roller thingy, like the one pictured above. [/quote]

I think we’ve established that women squeeze the tube in the middle and men squeeze it from the bottom, which is the sensible way. For me this just reinforces my suspicions that you’re actually a dude. Because not only are you squeezing from the bottom but you’re using a tool to maximize efficiency. So not only are you a man. You are a megggggaaaaaa man. [/quote]

Do I intimidate you, Titan? [/quote]

Do I find you intimidating? No. Do I find you sexy? Hell yeah. [/quote]

Probably even sexier now that you have confirmed that WhiteSturgeon is not just a man, but a megggggaaaaaa man. [/quote]

LOL

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

And then we have the shaming articles asking why guys prefer porn, PUA and games when it comes down to commitment. So women dont need men? Sounds like somebody got blasted in the face by one too many athletes during her prime.[/quote]

You’re icky. Probably the ickiest poster on TNation, and that’s saying a lot.

That’s why women don’t like you, not because of the feminist movement.

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
“And to quote Gloria Steinham, a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.”

REALLY?

Men built this world and (almost) everything in it, men only need a woman because of natures way of levelling the testosterone through sexual conquest in a placating sort of way. Angry, t-filled young men with no outlet smells like prison.

And then we have the shaming articles asking why guys prefer porn, PUA and games when it comes down to commitment. So women dont need men? Sounds like somebody got blasted in the face by one too many athletes during her prime.[/quote]

C’mon man.

I’m not a fan of what usually passes for feminism these days and I agree that there is a lot of stupid, short sighted negativity toward men and masculinity, but all this chest thumping is a little ridiculous.

A woman living in the West today does not need a man in the sense that she is viably able to support herself financially, professionally and socially as an independent entity. Marriage is not urgently necessary for her survival and is instead a matter of choice and personal preference, as it should be for everyone.

This is a good thing. I’m grateful that my daughter will have the opportunity to grow up in such a world. I don’t see how this threatens or insults men in any way. In fact, I would far sooner be (and am) with woman who can stand on her own feet and is with me because she prefers to be than a woman who is wholly dependent on me for her survival and emotional well being. Who wouldn’t?[/quote]

Exactly. I can perfectly well support myself, but I still want someone to whisper with at night.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

And then we have the shaming articles asking why guys prefer porn, PUA and games when it comes down to commitment. So women dont need men? Sounds like somebody got blasted in the face by one too many athletes during her prime.[/quote]

You’re icky. Probably the ickiest poster on TNation, and that’s saying a lot.

That’s why women don’t like you, not because of the feminist movement.[/quote]

Ah, the creep move in combination with “I bet you never get laid”…

Did I mention that we have a list?

Seriously, we do.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

And then we have the shaming articles asking why guys prefer porn, PUA and games when it comes down to commitment. So women dont need men? Sounds like somebody got blasted in the face by one too many athletes during her prime.[/quote]

You’re icky. Probably the ickiest poster on TNation, and that’s saying a lot.

That’s why women don’t like you, not because of the feminist movement.[/quote]

Ah, the creep move in combination with “I bet you never get laid”…

Did I mention that we have a list?

Seriously, we do. [/quote]

This:

It’s nasty! It’s nasty and hostile and awful! Do you suggest that this is a man deserving of a nice woman? He IS creepy! Do you defend these statements he’s made as honorable?

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

Exactly. I can perfectly well support myself, but I still want someone to whisper with at night. [/quote]

No, you really cant, which was his point.

The entire highly artificial and quite fragile social and literal infrastructure that allows you do not “need men” was built, is maintained and financed by men.

Joe Beta gets up every morning and puts his shoulder to the wheel so that women “no longer need men” and raise their expectations who is sexworthy and who is not to infinity and beyond.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

And then we have the shaming articles asking why guys prefer porn, PUA and games when it comes down to commitment. So women dont need men? Sounds like somebody got blasted in the face by one too many athletes during her prime.[/quote]

You’re icky. Probably the ickiest poster on TNation, and that’s saying a lot.

That’s why women don’t like you, not because of the feminist movement.[/quote]

Ah, the creep move in combination with “I bet you never get laid”…

Did I mention that we have a list?

Seriously, we do. [/quote]

Feminazis have a list, too, but, being a reasonable human being, I dispute that the qualities they shriek about in men are true of more than a few of them. I would suggest that the feminazis should be nicer if they want nicer men.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

And then we have the shaming articles asking why guys prefer porn, PUA and games when it comes down to commitment. So women dont need men? Sounds like somebody got blasted in the face by one too many athletes during her prime.[/quote]

You’re icky. Probably the ickiest poster on TNation, and that’s saying a lot.

That’s why women don’t like you, not because of the feminist movement.[/quote]

Ah, the creep move in combination with “I bet you never get laid”…

Did I mention that we have a list?

Seriously, we do. [/quote]

This:

It’s nasty! It’s nasty and hostile and awful! Do you suggest that this is a man deserving of a nice woman? He IS creepy! Do you defend these statements he’s made as honorable?[/quote]

No, but that was just aggressive and vulgar, not creepy.

There are other posters at the moment who I would consider to be creepy.

Also HP, knew Emilies post history even somewhat you would know that her HS football team has very, very, very, likely never run a train on her.

Thats just misplaced anger…

Two things I’d like to say on the topic. Men are not afraid of commitment, they either choose to not commit for not wanting to compromise their personal freedom or because committing to a woman is and investment. Much like any investment you can’t park the same money twice. If you want a man to invest in you be worth it. Give frequent blowjobs, make him feel good and confident and encourage him to follow his dreams and don’t force him to compromise things he enjoys. If a man doesn’t want to commit it is because the girl doesn’t give enough BJ’s or make him feel like Hercules. Or he doesn’t want to give up video games, Internet porn and casual sex, mainly because the girl in question may not be better than those things, or giving frequent enough BJ’s. bare min BJ quota is once a week. I don’t say this for shock or to be gross, it’s just true. Almost any man will give up a hobby and most of his casual friends for an annual 52 BJ minimum guarantee.

Second thing: harrypotter is a creepy trolling weirdo and should never be taken seriously.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

And then we have the shaming articles asking why guys prefer porn, PUA and games when it comes down to commitment. So women dont need men? Sounds like somebody got blasted in the face by one too many athletes during her prime.[/quote]

You’re icky. Probably the ickiest poster on TNation, and that’s saying a lot.

That’s why women don’t like you, not because of the feminist movement.[/quote]

Ah, the creep move in combination with “I bet you never get laid”…

Did I mention that we have a list?

Seriously, we do. [/quote]

Feminazis have a list, too, but, being a reasonable human being, I dispute that the qualities they shriek about in men are true of more than a few of them. I would suggest that the feminazis should be nicer if they want nicer men.[/quote]

Its not a list of female traits, though we have those too, sort of, but a list of female shaming tactics.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/the-catalog-of-anti-male-shaming-tactics/

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Two things I’d like to say on the topic. Men are not afraid of commitment, they either choose to not commit for not wanting to compromise their personal freedom or because committing to a woman is and investment. Much like any investment you can’t park the same money twice. If you want a man to invest in you be worth it. Give frequent blowjobs, make him feel good and confident and encourage him to follow his dreams and don’t force him to compromise things he enjoys. If a man doesn’t want to commit it is because the girl doesn’t give enough BJ’s or make him feel like Hercules. Or he doesn’t want to give up video games, Internet porn and casual sex, mainly because the girl in question may not be better than those things, or giving frequent enough BJ’s. bare min BJ quota is once a week. I don’t say this for shock or to be gross, it’s just true. Almost any man will give up a hobby and most of his casual friends for an annual 52 BJ minimum guarantee.

Second thing: harrypotter is a creepy trolling weirdo and should never be taken seriously. [/quote]

I agree that afraid has nothing to do with it.

That infamous SMP graph by Rollo Thomassi explains quite well what is happening.

The “were are all the good men” and “men dont grow up” and Peter Pans and whatnot is the battlecry of the former party girl who could have had commitment whenever she wanted it in her twenties, yet she had to have “fun”.

The inherent danger when it comes to girls in their twenties is that they do not necessarily grasp that an average 6 can have a roll in the hay with a 9, a STR with an 8 and a still somewhat uncommitted LTR with an 7.

However when she desides to marry at 30 or so, realistically speaking she no longer is a 6 but a 5 if she is lucky and that is what she is going to get, a male 5, and oh, she will resent him for it.

Some women have a hard time grasping that just because they are a shitty gatekeeper of their sexuality men are not necessarily shitty gatekeepers of their committment.

If you have your house somewhat in order as a man from 30 on upwards, you hold almost all the cards because the only way most women know how to lure men in is with sex, she has to put out because the competition is brutal, but noone can garantuee her that she will get any kind of real commitment and her clock is running down.

Its all market forces and who, wants what, from whom at different stages in their lives.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Two things I’d like to say on the topic. Men are not afraid of commitment, they either choose to not commit for not wanting to compromise their personal freedom or because committing to a woman is and investment. Much like any investment you can’t park the same money twice. If you want a man to invest in you be worth it. Give frequent blowjobs, make him feel good and confident and encourage him to follow his dreams and don’t force him to compromise things he enjoys. If a man doesn’t want to commit it is because the girl doesn’t give enough BJ’s or make him feel like Hercules. Or he doesn’t want to give up video games, Internet porn and casual sex, mainly because the girl in question may not be better than those things, or giving frequent enough BJ’s. bare min BJ quota is once a week. I don’t say this for shock or to be gross, it’s just true. Almost any man will give up a hobby and most of his casual friends for an annual 52 BJ minimum guarantee.

Second thing: harrypotter is a creepy trolling weirdo and should never be taken seriously. [/quote]

I agree that afraid has nothing to do with it.

That infamous SMP graph by Rollo Thomassi explains quite well what is happening.

The “were are all the good men” and “men dont grow up” and Peter Pans and whatnot is the battlecry of the former party girl who could have had commitment whenever she wanted it in her twenties, yet she had to have “fun”.

The inherent danger when it comes to girls in their twenties is that they do not necessarily grasp that an average 6 can have a roll in the hay with a 9, a STR with an 8 and a still somewhat uncommitted LTR with an 7.

However when she desides to marry at 30 or so, realistically speaking she no longer is a 6 but a 5 if she is lucky and that is what she is going to get, a male 5, and oh, she will resent him for it.

Some women have a hard time grasping that just because they are a shitty gatekeeper of their sexuality men are not necessarily shitty gatekeepers of their committment.

If you have your house somewhat in order as a man from 30 on upwards, you hold almost all the cards because the only way most women know how to lure men in is with sex, she has to put out because the competition is brutal, but noone can garantuee her that she will get any kind of real commitment and her clock is running down.

Its all market forces and who, wants what, from whom at different stages in their lives.[/quote]

What he said.

Except that I started this thread to dispute that men avoid commitment, and other women have agreed that this has been their experience, too.