better—
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
You see, I dont want the lukewarm provider sex while she is waiting for something better.
I also dont want sex with a girl that is drunk as a skunk.
I want the “oh my god, oh my god what is happening” sex.
Which takes some ground work.
At least for me.
Build, build, build the tension and then go in for the kill. [/quote]
Careful.
Your romantic side is showing.
You might sully your rep as a misogynistic cad.
[/quote]
However, the recent blackmail incident is not forgotten. Rep still intact.
[quote]theBeth wrote:
hey EM…any chance you could try this pose for your Avi?[/quote]
I can do that pose…
Up until I was 28 I could put both my legs behind my head…
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
You see, I dont want the lukewarm provider sex while she is waiting for something better.
I also dont want sex with a girl that is drunk as a skunk.
I want the “oh my god, oh my god what is happening” sex.
Which takes some ground work.
At least for me.
Build, build, build the tension and then go in for the kill. [/quote]
Careful.
Your romantic side is showing.
You might sully your rep as a misogynistic cad.
[/quote]
However, the recent blackmail incident is not forgotten. Rep still intact.[/quote]
Blackmail as in, we had a deal and she did not keep up her part, which kind of back fired for her?
Well yeah, she dont pay, she dont play.
why isnt anyone paying attention to me?
xcept Varq - not sure if we’re freinds or not~
I’ll put this right here for the moment~
[quote]Edgy wrote:
why isnt anyone paying attention to me?
xcept Varq - not sure if we’re freinds or not~[/quote]
…
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
hey EM…any chance you could try this pose for your Avi?[/quote]
THEBETH - no. There is no chance.
We can’t have coffee now, it’s too late, and I’m all hyped up over all sorts of exciting non-men stuff. I do happen to have some steak, broccoli, and cauliflower, though, which you’re all welcome to.
There is, of course, plenty of white wine and diet coke. And I can also make some jasmine green tea, and if you’d like, spike it with blueberry vodka.
Oh, and I have some dark chocolate covered almond things. In fact, I should have one of those right now.
I can’t think about orion’s seduction techniques tonight. I’m too much in a dither over other things. In the morning, maybe, after I’ve worked out.[/quote]
I think I’m mourning over things that could have been right now. But I’ll gladly take the white wine and the almonds - not the steak, thank you.
Also, Orion, what the hell was that??
[quote]nighthawkz wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
hey EM…any chance you could try this pose for your Avi?[/quote]
THEBETH - no. There is no chance.
We can’t have coffee now, it’s too late, and I’m all hyped up over all sorts of exciting non-men stuff. I do happen to have some steak, broccoli, and cauliflower, though, which you’re all welcome to.
There is, of course, plenty of white wine and diet coke. And I can also make some jasmine green tea, and if you’d like, spike it with blueberry vodka.
Oh, and I have some dark chocolate covered almond things. In fact, I should have one of those right now.
I can’t think about orion’s seduction techniques tonight. I’m too much in a dither over other things. In the morning, maybe, after I’ve worked out.[/quote]
I think I’m mourning over things that could have been right now. But I’ll gladly take the white wine and the almonds - not the steak, thank you.
Also, Orion, what the hell was that??[/quote]
Wickie!!!
A little ginger viking.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Sheesh!
I go out of town for a few days, and this is what you’ve done to Em’s place?
And who the hell let that faux Viking in here?
[/quote]
He sneeked in with the band by carrying their amps. He’s clever like that.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Sheesh!
I go out of town for a few days, and this is what you’ve done to Em’s place?
And who the hell let that faux Viking in here?
[/quote]
He sneeked in with the band by carrying their amps. He’s clever like that.
[/quote]
Don’t forget sneaky. Vikings, even faux ones are sneaky.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
You see, I dont want the lukewarm provider sex while she is waiting for something better.
I also dont want sex with a girl that is drunk as a skunk.
I want the “oh my god, oh my god what is happening” sex.
Which takes some ground work.
At least for me.
Build, build, build the tension and then go in for the kill. [/quote]
Careful.
Your romantic side is showing.
You might sully your rep as a misogynistic cad.
[/quote]
However, the recent blackmail incident is not forgotten. Rep still intact.[/quote]
Blackmail as in, we had a deal and she did not keep up her part, which kind of back fired for her?
Well yeah, she dont pay, she dont play.
[/quote]
Blackmail, prostitution - who can keep track?
I really don’t have any quarrel with your seduction skills, about which I don’t necessarily disagree. The problem I have (for you, not me, because I believe you’re not happy) is that you keep going for these quid pro quo arrangements, which means that the women you encounter are after something specific and one-sided, just as you are, and it continually reinforces everyone’s jaded views.
I may encounter men who are dishonest, and it’s certainly possible to game me, with patience, but my optimism about other people is based on my belief in decency in general, across genders, so it’s fairly unshakable. If I do find myself disappointed I just think “wow, lucky to realize now rather than later” and move along.
Your belief in decency is gender-specific, which leaves you with zero good options. My options are limitless, or at least that’s my starry-eyed belief, which puts me in a very optimistic place.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
You see, I dont want the lukewarm provider sex while she is waiting for something better.
I also dont want sex with a girl that is drunk as a skunk.
I want the “oh my god, oh my god what is happening” sex.
Which takes some ground work.
At least for me.
Build, build, build the tension and then go in for the kill. [/quote]
Careful.
Your romantic side is showing.
You might sully your rep as a misogynistic cad.
[/quote]
However, the recent blackmail incident is not forgotten. Rep still intact.[/quote]
Blackmail as in, we had a deal and she did not keep up her part, which kind of back fired for her?
Well yeah, she dont pay, she dont play.
[/quote]
Blackmail, prostitution - who can keep track?
I really don’t have any quarrel with your seduction skills, about which I don’t necessarily disagree. The problem I have (for you, not me, because I believe you’re not happy) is that you keep going for these quid pro quo arrangements, which means that the women you encounter are after something specific and one-sided, just as you are, and it continually reinforces everyone’s jaded views.
[/quote]
You dont remember that story correctly.
This started out as a giant “fuck you!” and, much to my surprise, she said yes.
I obviously needed to see what would happen?
What happened was that I wrote 1/3 of it, she tried to renege, I threw her out.
Now she was in the interesting position to have already sent the stuff to her publisher so whoever tried to do the rest would have had to mimick my writing style and good luck with that.
I dont feel bad about this at all, she is one of those women who make their way with sexual innuendo and false promises and in this case that backfired mightily, also the stuff I needed to rewrite into a school book was pretty interesting, I learned something.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
You see, I dont want the lukewarm provider sex while she is waiting for something better.
I also dont want sex with a girl that is drunk as a skunk.
I want the “oh my god, oh my god what is happening” sex.
Which takes some ground work.
At least for me.
Build, build, build the tension and then go in for the kill. [/quote]
Careful.
Your romantic side is showing.
You might sully your rep as a misogynistic cad.
[/quote]
However, the recent blackmail incident is not forgotten. Rep still intact.[/quote]
Blackmail as in, we had a deal and she did not keep up her part, which kind of back fired for her?
Well yeah, she dont pay, she dont play.
[/quote]
Blackmail, prostitution - who can keep track?
[/quote]
I can.
If I lay down 150 EUR for an hour, it most likely is prostitution.
God bless whores and their honest and straightforward ways.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
You see, I dont want the lukewarm provider sex while she is waiting for something better.
I also dont want sex with a girl that is drunk as a skunk.
I want the “oh my god, oh my god what is happening” sex.
Which takes some ground work.
At least for me.
Build, build, build the tension and then go in for the kill. [/quote]
Careful.
Your romantic side is showing.
You might sully your rep as a misogynistic cad.
[/quote]
However, the recent blackmail incident is not forgotten. Rep still intact.[/quote]
Blackmail as in, we had a deal and she did not keep up her part, which kind of back fired for her?
Well yeah, she dont pay, she dont play.
[/quote]
Blackmail, prostitution - who can keep track?
I really don’t have any quarrel with your seduction skills, about which I don’t necessarily disagree. The problem I have (for you, not me, because I believe you’re not happy) is that you keep going for these quid pro quo arrangements, which means that the women you encounter are after something specific and one-sided, just as you are, and it continually reinforces everyone’s jaded views.
[/quote]
You dont remember that story correctly.
This started out as a giant “fuck you!” and, much to my surprise, she said yes.
I obviously needed to see what would happen?
What happened was that I wrote 1/3 of it, she tried to renege, I threw her out.
Now she was in the interesting position to have already sent the stuff to her publisher so whoever tried to do the rest would have had to mimick my writing style and good luck with that.
I dont feel bad about this at all, she is one of those women who make their way with sexual innuendo and false promises and in this case that backfired mightily, also the stuff I needed to rewrite into a school book was pretty interesting, I learned something. [/quote]
It wasn’t a very nice story, though was it? Tell me, which of you was the protagonist and which the antagonist? Because I can’t find the good guy in this one, and usually they’re pretty easy to recognize.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
You see, I dont want the lukewarm provider sex while she is waiting for something better.
I also dont want sex with a girl that is drunk as a skunk.
I want the “oh my god, oh my god what is happening” sex.
Which takes some ground work.
At least for me.
Build, build, build the tension and then go in for the kill. [/quote]
Careful.
Your romantic side is showing.
You might sully your rep as a misogynistic cad.
[/quote]
However, the recent blackmail incident is not forgotten. Rep still intact.[/quote]
Blackmail as in, we had a deal and she did not keep up her part, which kind of back fired for her?
Well yeah, she dont pay, she dont play.
[/quote]
Blackmail, prostitution - who can keep track?
I really don’t have any quarrel with your seduction skills, about which I don’t necessarily disagree. The problem I have (for you, not me, because I believe you’re not happy) is that you keep going for these quid pro quo arrangements, which means that the women you encounter are after something specific and one-sided, just as you are, and it continually reinforces everyone’s jaded views.
[/quote]
You dont remember that story correctly.
This started out as a giant “fuck you!” and, much to my surprise, she said yes.
I obviously needed to see what would happen?
What happened was that I wrote 1/3 of it, she tried to renege, I threw her out.
Now she was in the interesting position to have already sent the stuff to her publisher so whoever tried to do the rest would have had to mimick my writing style and good luck with that.
I dont feel bad about this at all, she is one of those women who make their way with sexual innuendo and false promises and in this case that backfired mightily, also the stuff I needed to rewrite into a school book was pretty interesting, I learned something. [/quote]
It wasn’t a very nice story, though was it? Tell me, which of you was the protagonist and which the antagonist? Because I can’t find the good guy in this one, and usually they’re pretty easy to recognize.
[/quote]
I do not try to be the good guy.
I am what I am, which is pretty decent if you are decent.
If you give me reason to turn to the dark side I will do so.
Happily.
The last thing I want to be like is the statue of a saint who is sht on even by pigeons.
I mean think about it:
If you had sent me a message whether I could help you with a book and I would have sent a message back saying “yeah, get a catsuit and fuck me pumps and get your ass to my place” you would have smelled what the Rock was cooking, which in this case was not so much sexual desire but me being fed up with her BS.
However, she immediately did what she did her whole adult life, using her physical attractiveness as a bargaining chip.
Not even sex, the promise of it.
You cannot do this stuff to women who are not trying to con you and/ or are completely full of themselves.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Nah, he’ll get over it. It’s an immature expectation, nothing eternal about it. He will evolve past it when he finds someone who captures his attention and his heart. If anything, it’s inspiring because he’ll hold out a little longer and not settle for just anyone.
Perfect example just happened to a very close friend of mine. He was a bigger man whore than I was, if anyone can believe that! And last month he told me that he found “the one”. After years of wading through the dating cess-pool, he is in “LUUUUUV”. I met her and she’s a great chick - everything he was looking for. He found the white buffalo! That’s a GOOD thing! [/quote]
Is it just me, or have you returned from your hiatus down South more open to positive, fulfilling relationships with women?[/quote]
Uh did you miss the memo?
Check G+ I will not say what changed.[/quote]
Heeeey, no fair! I want to see what changed!
Derek, I knew you weren’t serious about drinks! I wasn’t either!
(Do the many exclamation points suggest too much coffee?)[/quote]
I believe I invited you to G+ before.
[/quote]
You posted about it once during the day (I’m not usually on during work, and don’t log in in the rare event I am, but am currently sent to my room to do paperwork in isolation, so here I am) but by the time I got home to mess with it on my computer your post was deleted. I was uncertain whether you’d changed your mind, so hesitated to ask.[/quote]
Nope look for testy1
[/quote]
Okay, did that today, so if you haven’t been notified something went wrong and I have a new friend who’s not you.
[quote]orion wrote:
I mean think about it:
If you had sent me a message whether I could help you with a book and I would have sent a message back saying “yeah, get a catsuit and fuck me pumps and get your ass to my place” you would have smelled what the Rock was cooking, which in this case was not so much sexual desire but me being fed up with her BS.
However, she immediately did what she did her whole adult life, using her physical attractiveness as a bargaining chip.
Not even sex, the promise of it.
You cannot do this stuff to women who are not trying to con you and/ or are completely full of themselves. [/quote]
The whole thing doesn’t work for me. If I sent you an email asking for help for whatever, I would do so assuming that you would happily help because that’s how we both are. I have friends who’ve been having their place renovated. Today I’m going over there with a bucket and dust cloths to help put it back together. They’ve done lots of nice things for me, too. Nice people do nice things, and over time there winds up being a feedback loop of niceness.
I helped the new guy get his woodpile stacked before the rain. Good exercise for me, nice to be outside and engaged in a task with a clear endpoint. If I needed help moving a piece of furniture I might ask him to do it, not because there would be gain in it for him (if I give that, I give it freely for the benefit of us both) but because people do nice things.
I’m pretty full of myself! But I still believe in mutuality and that doing good things for other people has intrinsic value.
But it sounds like she was a cheat. And you were an accomplice for your own gain. So there would never be a scenario wherein I would call for help cheating others, and you would manipulate me in return.
It’s very sad. You see that, don’t you?