Men afraid of commitment?

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m still trying to figure out how - it’s confusing. [/quote]

send me an email on gmail, same name. or just create a profile and add me to your circles, we will find you.

[/quote]

The only Testy1 I got was something like “Testy1 !!!” and there were no circles listed.

But I may need until tomorrow night to mess with it more, heading out to work and then having friends over tonight.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m still trying to figure out how - it’s confusing. [/quote]

send me an email on gmail, same name. or just create a profile and add me to your circles, we will find you.

[/quote]

The only Testy1 I got was something like “Testy1 !!!” and there were no circles listed.

But I may need until tomorrow night to mess with it more, heading out to work and then having friends over tonight. [/quote]

Another lesbian party?

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m still trying to figure out how - it’s confusing. [/quote]

send me an email on gmail, same name. or just create a profile and add me to your circles, we will find you.

[/quote]

The only Testy1 I got was something like “Testy1 !!!” and there were no circles listed.

But I may need until tomorrow night to mess with it more, heading out to work and then having friends over tonight. [/quote]

Another lesbian party?
[/quote]

No, not this time. We didn’t process our feelings, and while I had white wine, not everyone did. Also ate hearty food rather than local artisan cheese. And lastly, men involved. Although I guess I’m discovering here at T Nation that a surprising number of men are lesbians. Still, these didn’t seem to be.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m still trying to figure out how - it’s confusing. [/quote]

send me an email on gmail, same name. or just create a profile and add me to your circles, we will find you.

[/quote]

The only Testy1 I got was something like “Testy1 !!!” and there were no circles listed.

But I may need until tomorrow night to mess with it more, heading out to work and then having friends over tonight. [/quote]

Another lesbian party?
[/quote]

No, not this time. We didn’t process our feelings, and while I had white wine, not everyone did. Also ate hearty food rather than local artisan cheese. And lastly, men involved. Although I guess I’m discovering here at T Nation that a surprising number of men are lesbians. Still, these didn’t seem to be.[/quote]

Well, did they have short hair and were interested in women sexually?

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m still trying to figure out how - it’s confusing. [/quote]

send me an email on gmail, same name. or just create a profile and add me to your circles, we will find you.

[/quote]

The only Testy1 I got was something like “Testy1 !!!” and there were no circles listed.

But I may need until tomorrow night to mess with it more, heading out to work and then having friends over tonight. [/quote]

Another lesbian party?
[/quote]

No, not this time. We didn’t process our feelings, and while I had white wine, not everyone did. Also ate hearty food rather than local artisan cheese. And lastly, men involved. Although I guess I’m discovering here at T Nation that a surprising number of men are lesbians. Still, these didn’t seem to be.[/quote]

Well, did they have short hair and were interested in women sexually?

[/quote]

Only the men. As far as I could tell.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m still trying to figure out how - it’s confusing. [/quote]

send me an email on gmail, same name. or just create a profile and add me to your circles, we will find you.

[/quote]

The only Testy1 I got was something like “Testy1 !!!” and there were no circles listed.

But I may need until tomorrow night to mess with it more, heading out to work and then having friends over tonight. [/quote]

Another lesbian party?
[/quote]

No, not this time. We didn’t process our feelings, and while I had white wine, not everyone did. Also ate hearty food rather than local artisan cheese. And lastly, men involved. Although I guess I’m discovering here at T Nation that a surprising number of men are lesbians. Still, these didn’t seem to be.[/quote]

Well, did they have short hair and were interested in women sexually?

[/quote]

Only the men. As far as I could tell. [/quote]

You may need to recalibrate your gaydar then. Scratch the surface of almost any heterosexual woman and you will find a closeted bi-curious woman just itching to get out.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m still trying to figure out how - it’s confusing. [/quote]

send me an email on gmail, same name. or just create a profile and add me to your circles, we will find you.

[/quote]

The only Testy1 I got was something like “Testy1 !!!” and there were no circles listed.

But I may need until tomorrow night to mess with it more, heading out to work and then having friends over tonight. [/quote]

Another lesbian party?
[/quote]

No, not this time. We didn’t process our feelings, and while I had white wine, not everyone did. Also ate hearty food rather than local artisan cheese. And lastly, men involved. Although I guess I’m discovering here at T Nation that a surprising number of men are lesbians. Still, these didn’t seem to be.[/quote]

Well, did they have short hair and were interested in women sexually?

[/quote]

Only the men. As far as I could tell. [/quote]

You may need to recalibrate your gaydar then. Scratch the surface of almost any heterosexual woman and you will find a closeted bi-curious woman just itching to get out.
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I don’t know. I honestly don’t believe I have any sexual interest in women. Just - none. I find many women appealing or beautiful or whatever, but just can’t imagine putting my mouth on any part of them.

On the other hand, I’m not particularly outgoing sexually (not an initiator until it I become comfortable enough to let go of inhibitions) so maybe it’s a matter of no one ever bothering to make a move. Maybe I’d go crazy with wanting.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
He’s a nice guy, hopefully it will go down well.

[/quote]

Not very likely[/quote]

It did! Not a problem at all. Possibly a positive result, if anything.[/quote]

Sorry, we misunderstand each other. I’m saying the whole relationship won’t go down well for him.[/quote]

Actually, I’m beginning to think possibly otherwise. It’s still very early and there’s no way to know, but - he certainly has my attention.

AC, you said don’t spend too much time together, but what about emailing and texting? Is that meant to be limited, too?[/quote]

Ha ha ha.

I’m obviously not AC, but, yes, of course, Em!

You really do lose your otherwise excellent thinking skills at times like this, don’t you? :slight_smile:

<Now waiting for AC to come along and tell me I’m completely wrong and should leave the date counseling to him!>[/quote]

I’m hoping he does tell you that, because otherwise I’ve already blown it. :frowning:
[/quote]

Yup, you’ve blown it! LOL Chushin is correct, how can you give him the gift of missing you when you call/text/email all the time?

Silly girl! LOL The goal is to PROLONG the “courtship” so that you can have some freedom to spread your wings a little, correct? If that’s not the case and the “new” goal is to jump to the nearest available suitor and snap right back into your relationship comfort zone, then by all means, text/call/email away! Cuz that’s exactly what will happen.

I’m betting it’s happening already. You’ve passed the point of “no return”, haven’t you? We are, at this point, prolonging the inevitable, aren’t we? [/quote]

I had passed it, it would seem, and yes, yes, we were. :-/

But he’s so smart - way, way brighter than I am, and it’s exciting. I did kiss a geologist, who’s very nice and has an outstanding body. But I dunno. It’s hard for me to focus on more than one thing at a time.

Plus this guy is like a Nephorm in the appropriate age range. What smart girl wouldn’t jump?

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
He’s a nice guy, hopefully it will go down well.

[/quote]

Not very likely[/quote]

It did! Not a problem at all. Possibly a positive result, if anything.[/quote]

Sorry, we misunderstand each other. I’m saying the whole relationship won’t go down well for him.[/quote]

Actually, I’m beginning to think possibly otherwise. It’s still very early and there’s no way to know, but - he certainly has my attention.

AC, you said don’t spend too much time together, but what about emailing and texting? Is that meant to be limited, too?[/quote]

Ha ha ha.

I’m obviously not AC, but, yes, of course, Em!

You really do lose your otherwise excellent thinking skills at times like this, don’t you? :slight_smile:

<Now waiting for AC to come along and tell me I’m completely wrong and should leave the date counseling to him!>[/quote]

I’m hoping he does tell you that, because otherwise I’ve already blown it. :frowning:
[/quote]

Yup, you’ve blown it! LOL Chushin is correct, how can you give him the gift of missing you when you call/text/email all the time?

Silly girl! LOL The goal is to PROLONG the “courtship” so that you can have some freedom to spread your wings a little, correct? If that’s not the case and the “new” goal is to jump to the nearest available suitor and snap right back into your relationship comfort zone, then by all means, text/call/email away! Cuz that’s exactly what will happen.

I’m betting it’s happening already. You’ve passed the point of “no return”, haven’t you? We are, at this point, prolonging the inevitable, aren’t we? [/quote]

I had passed it, it would seem, and yes, yes, we were. :-/

But he’s so smart - way, way brighter than I am, and it’s exciting. I did kiss a geologist, who’s very nice and has an outstanding body. But I dunno. It’s hard for me to focus on more than one thing at a time.

Plus this guy is like a Nephorm in the appropriate age range. What smart girl wouldn’t jump?[/quote]

That’s pretty much what I figured. What smart girl wouldn’t jump, indeed. LOL Your scarcity mentality will be your undoing. There are PLENTY of fish in the sea, Em. But if his hooks are in you already (i.e. he’s flipped the necessary switches in your pretty little brain) then a relationship with him is a foregone conclusion at this point. Enjoy the ride, and we’ll all be here when the carousel stops again.

Be careful with this one, Em.

Whatever happened to the lesbian thing Em? I feel betrayed!

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
He’s a nice guy, hopefully it will go down well.

[/quote]

Not very likely[/quote]

It did! Not a problem at all. Possibly a positive result, if anything.[/quote]

Sorry, we misunderstand each other. I’m saying the whole relationship won’t go down well for him.[/quote]

Actually, I’m beginning to think possibly otherwise. It’s still very early and there’s no way to know, but - he certainly has my attention.

AC, you said don’t spend too much time together, but what about emailing and texting? Is that meant to be limited, too?[/quote]

Ha ha ha.

I’m obviously not AC, but, yes, of course, Em!

You really do lose your otherwise excellent thinking skills at times like this, don’t you? :slight_smile:

<Now waiting for AC to come along and tell me I’m completely wrong and should leave the date counseling to him!>[/quote]

I’m hoping he does tell you that, because otherwise I’ve already blown it. :frowning:
[/quote]

Yup, you’ve blown it! LOL Chushin is correct, how can you give him the gift of missing you when you call/text/email all the time?

Silly girl! LOL The goal is to PROLONG the “courtship” so that you can have some freedom to spread your wings a little, correct? If that’s not the case and the “new” goal is to jump to the nearest available suitor and snap right back into your relationship comfort zone, then by all means, text/call/email away! Cuz that’s exactly what will happen.

I’m betting it’s happening already. You’ve passed the point of “no return”, haven’t you? We are, at this point, prolonging the inevitable, aren’t we? [/quote]

I had passed it, it would seem, and yes, yes, we were. :-/

But he’s so smart - way, way brighter than I am, and it’s exciting. I did kiss a geologist, who’s very nice and has an outstanding body. But I dunno. It’s hard for me to focus on more than one thing at a time.

Plus this guy is like a Nephorm in the appropriate age range. What smart girl wouldn’t jump?[/quote]

That’s pretty much what I figured. What smart girl wouldn’t jump, indeed. LOL Your scarcity mentality will be your undoing. There are PLENTY of fish in the sea, Em. But if his hooks are in you already (i.e. he’s flipped the necessary switches in your pretty little brain) then a relationship with him is a foregone conclusion at this point. Enjoy the ride, and we’ll all be here when the carousel stops again.

Be careful with this one, Em.
[/quote]

[quote]theBeth wrote:
Whatever happened to the lesbian thing Em? I feel betrayed![/quote]
Be suffled instead.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
He’s a nice guy, hopefully it will go down well.

[/quote]

Not very likely[/quote]

It did! Not a problem at all. Possibly a positive result, if anything.[/quote]

Sorry, we misunderstand each other. I’m saying the whole relationship won’t go down well for him.[/quote]

Actually, I’m beginning to think possibly otherwise. It’s still very early and there’s no way to know, but - he certainly has my attention.

AC, you said don’t spend too much time together, but what about emailing and texting? Is that meant to be limited, too?[/quote]

Ha ha ha.

I’m obviously not AC, but, yes, of course, Em!

You really do lose your otherwise excellent thinking skills at times like this, don’t you? :slight_smile:

<Now waiting for AC to come along and tell me I’m completely wrong and should leave the date counseling to him!>[/quote]

I’m hoping he does tell you that, because otherwise I’ve already blown it. :frowning:
[/quote]

Yup, you’ve blown it! LOL Chushin is correct, how can you give him the gift of missing you when you call/text/email all the time?

Silly girl! LOL The goal is to PROLONG the “courtship” so that you can have some freedom to spread your wings a little, correct? If that’s not the case and the “new” goal is to jump to the nearest available suitor and snap right back into your relationship comfort zone, then by all means, text/call/email away! Cuz that’s exactly what will happen.

I’m betting it’s happening already. You’ve passed the point of “no return”, haven’t you? We are, at this point, prolonging the inevitable, aren’t we? [/quote]

I had passed it, it would seem, and yes, yes, we were. :-/

But he’s so smart - way, way brighter than I am, and it’s exciting. I did kiss a geologist, who’s very nice and has an outstanding body. But I dunno. It’s hard for me to focus on more than one thing at a time.

Plus this guy is like a Nephorm in the appropriate age range. What smart girl wouldn’t jump?[/quote]

That’s pretty much what I figured. What smart girl wouldn’t jump, indeed. LOL Your scarcity mentality will be your undoing. There are PLENTY of fish in the sea, Em. But if his hooks are in you already (i.e. he’s flipped the necessary switches in your pretty little brain) then a relationship with him is a foregone conclusion at this point. Enjoy the ride, and we’ll all be here when the carousel stops again.

Be careful with this one, Em.
[/quote]

There IS scarcity involved, though. There are thousands of fish in the sea, but are they smarter than me, or even as bright? Do they seem, as far as can be identified to this point, to be highly ethical and entirely competent, along with kind and energetic? I don’t think so, I think they’re few and far between, and if oriented the way I am (long term types) tend to stay in their marriages, which culls the herd considerably.

I am being careful, to the extent that I’m able. When we met last year and then started seeing each other again this year, as friends initially (on my side at any rate, he made clear that he was interested in something else) I was intimidated and believed it couldn’t possibly work because things seemed so unbalanced (assets, interests). I’m totally outclassed, with the exception of that really nice leg, etc, that I have. Then he sent me the speech/eulogy he gave at his mom’s funeral when the one-year anniversary of her death came around right after I started this thread, and I think I can see in it what else he might see in me, and it also gave a picture of his family that was so damn touching and healthy and nice, I nearly died of it. At this point I believe that A) he is not a player and is possibly even more idealistic and naive than I am, and B) that he is sweet in a way that the last two men I was involved with weren’t. Although he’s brighter than me, so he could totally be fucking with my head and I’d be like some sort of goofy labrador lapping it up, arrrggghhh!

Anyway, I do feel that there’s some scarcity and I’m being as cautious as I can be, but tiptoeing forward. Which means that other men have lost their interest to me.

We’ll see. If I get the new job it will become challenging, so it may well fall apart. Which is okay, too. I’m learning as I go, and by the time I’m ninety should have this all figured out.

[quote]theBeth wrote:
Whatever happened to the lesbian thing Em? I feel betrayed![/quote]

Look, there’s a difference between exclusive and committed! We’re still ON, sort of.