Men afraid of commitment?

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

But then on the other hand, I’m not sure what is the appeal of dating around other than the idea that there’s an ideal hidden somewhere, if I just go out with enough men, many of whom are tedious and some of whom give off women-hating vibes. Nothing’s more fun than watching a guy’s face twist with hatred as he describes his psycho ex over a plate of wings.[/quote]

Here’s a novel idea for you: don’t ask about his ex… Or, if the conversation heads in that direction, simply say, “you know, I’d rather not talk about your ex or my ex - let’s keep things fun”. Try that on.

I personally NEVER ask about a woman’s sexual or dating history. Sometimes things come up as a context to a story or conversation, but I feel that this whole need to get a person’s complete history is coming from a place of insecurity and/or judgement and only serves to give me a context to relate myself to that history - either positively or negatively. This creates baggage from the start. And there’s no indication that if there is truely “pertinant data” that you are far along enough in the “relationship” that the person will be comfortable sharing things the same way as they would if the felt safe and unthreatened. So the data you are likely to recieve is skewed, altered or omitted - that’s just human nature.

So I usually just leave that part out and focus on the present/future, rather than the past when getting to know someone. It’s actually pretty liberating and keeps the vibes positive, which is pretty important at the beginning.

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Really? Under what circumstances? Is this a myth, meant to confuse women further? As if your regular incomprehensible behavior isn’t enough!

Because once again I find myself doing a deer-in-the-headlights thing as someone begins pushing in that direction, i.e. exclusivity. And we’ve been seeing each other only briefly, no sex.

So my question for the board is, how is this best handled?

I don’t understand men. Except orion.
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Well, either you are super awesome or he needs a woman in his life.

Any woman really. [/quote]

I think he just wants someone around to pick up his dirty socks, that JERK. I’m going to send him a note right now, stating very firmly that THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER FRIENDSHIP.

And P.S. I only say I understand you because you’ve spent a lot of time explaining yourself. I think you could probably say the same of me, no? So don’t be mean.
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Why am I mean.

Either you are one in a thousand and he goes for it or he needs to latch on to a woman.

Maybe a bit of both.

I think you understand people who need, need, NEED to be in a relationship a lot better than I do.

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Some people might want, want, WANT to be in a relationship.

I was last minimally involved with this guy a year and a half or so ago. At that time, he was coming out of what sounded like some transitional post-divorce stuff. I didn’t and don’t see him as desperate, as he has definite market value and if he only wanted a relationship, any relationship, would have one. He also chooses to live in our remote area rather than in the urban settings where most of his work is centered, which suggests that a relationship is not at the top of his priority list.

Now, one possibility is that he enjoys cat-and-mousing goofy, earnest women for the entertainment value it provides and isn’t interested in a relationship at all. If so there’s a chance that I’ll wind up being drawn in and will ultimately be spectacularly hurt. Could be. I worry it! But I don’t think that’s it.

Again I note that men are incomprehensible creatures, despite what Mr. Foxworthy says. [/quote]

Too much wanting pretty much is needing.

Your argument is the equivalent of arguing that sluts would just fuck anybody.

They dont, the fuck as high upwards as possible.

A needy man would not just “relationship” anybody too, they go as high as they can get.

Now, as for how high his SMP might be, you have already been with one paper alpha.

To realize his potential, he would have to know its there, if he does not, he could be a total beta shlub in a nice package.

Getting a bit clingy seems to indicate that he does not know that he is enough. [/quote]

But doesn’t it all depend upon what your definition of value is when you determine what is the highest you can get?

I think it does. [/quote]

That’s an interesting question… I’ve always been interested in people I consider way out of my league, like “10s” or at least solid “9s” in my mind. LOL [/quote]

You seem to be a woman.

Of course you are.[/quote]

Are you saying that we aren’t interested in dating women out of our own league? If I’m just looking to hook up I might drop my standards to a 6 but if I’m looking for something more I definitely wouldn’t be settling either. [/quote]

You cant get a woman out of your league.

You can get a woman in your league.

A woman however can bat above her league if she uses agressive sexuality, i.e. if she sluts it up.

You slut it up and see where it gets you. [/quote]

I disagree with you on this one. I’ve dated out of my league and I’ve never used aggressive sexuality to do that. Brainwashing perhaps, but “slutting it up”, never![/quote]

Did you get him into a LTR with all bells and whistles?

Because if not , what do you think he was in it for?[/quote]

I guess it depends on your definition of a long-term relationship. These were guys that I saw for probably 2, maybe 3 years. I’m actually the one that facilitated the break ups not them. I’m not sure what the bells and whistles would include, lol. I mean we went out, did fun things, I was friendly with his friends and family and so on… I was far from being like a dark secret or something. [/quote]

This exchange made me laugh. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE??

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I’ve actually noticed something similar among the associates and young male partners (late 20, to mid-30s) lawyers in my firm.

Used to, they’d show up at 25 and, if not be already married, get married promptly after joining the firm.

Now, they don’t particulaly date, marry, or even chase women (or men, for that matter).

These are smart guys, generally pretty fit/good looking, often well-connected (or will soon be well-connected), making mid six figures — what used to be called a “catch” back in the day.

I’ve actually asked several about it, and, long story short, they’ve decided women are not worth the trouble.

Dating and marriage is expensive, the drama and bullshit they feel most women bring is a destraction from life, and all the society and legal system is geared against men in a relationship, and the rewards, at least dating American women, are few. They’re not even playing the field. They’ve just checked it off and do without.

The exceptions to the rule are the religious associates — mormons and Orthodox Jews being the majority of such in our office. We all are married (generally young) and have multiple children.

The female associates, in contrast, are constantly on the prowl for a husband/someone to date or sleep with, and blow through 2-3 husbands by the time they are 40.[/quote]

LOL Jewbacca those young associates are lying their asses off to you. Do you really believe young attorneys are going without tail?

This is what I think is really going on. Young singles now have the dating websites and young male attorneys find that they can use them as hookup sites and get all the poon they want. They put up profiles saying they are attorneys or just say professionals and have pictures of themselves in well tailored expensive suits and they take advantage of the young sluts that think they can get an attorney by putting out.

So these guys are getting laid once or twice a week but they don’t want to tell their boss (or partner in the firm) what they are really doing so they tell you that bullshit line.

Back when you and I were young professionals being good looking and successful wasn’t enough, you still had to have at least some game and you had to figure out how to meet single, ehem interested females. Now all you have to do is put together a good profile on Eharmony.
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There might be something to that, but how come they allegedly fuck 2 women a week and deem none worthy to share their way better than average life with them?

One would imagine that they wanted more, however, if pussy is all there is…

I am willing to bet that Mormons and Orthodox Jews get a lot more out of the deal. [/quote]

Options. The more women I fuck the less i deem worthy. Whenever I take a good look at myself I’m like damn I really ain’t worth shit but expect a lot. But if I had sex with 15 women this year they all brought something to the table then I now expect all to be compiled in to one perfect woman.

Ex.If you date a lot of woman you will no doubt get

  1. A true sexual do anything freak. Not the kind you have to tell and ask to do stuff they just know when to do it and how.
  2. A woman so secure she just wants to pay for dinner, pay for everything for you.
  3. A woman that just likes to give head. May not be a freak but just gives it to you all the time your barely opening your eyes waking up already her head is in your lap.
  4. Cook all the time for you - maybe laundry too or another line
  5. Will workout and keep in shape.
  6. Trophy. Bring her around and everybody looks at you like how the fuck did you get her.
  7. Motivator. Some how she just helps you accomplish shit.
  8. New new, she always seems like a new girl. Can reinvent herself Relationship feels like the best first date every time you go out.
  9. Great chemistry everything is perfect - probably would be ideal except now because you got a taste you want 1-7 in her too.

Now You try asking Girl number 4, to be girl number 3 she’ll look at you like wtf? I do all this for you and your asking for that too???[/quote]

Oh, that’s really sad. [/quote]

What is really sad? Help out non-native English speakers here with a noun.[/quote]

The loss of joy and wonder in the gifts each woman brings, which is eroding Airtruth’s capacity for contentment in any of the women he’s involved with, if I’m not misreading him. But of course, maybe I did misread.
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That’s a pretty accurate “representative sample” of what’s out there these days. It’s not like he is losing capacity for contentment or doesn’t appreciate what each woman brings, he just want’s more than a one-trick pony. That’s not so unreasonable…[/quote]

This was the piece that made me think it sad:

She’ll never exist now. The cup will eternally be half empty. Isn’t that sad?[/quote]

Nah, he’ll get over it. It’s an immature expectation, nothing eternal about it. He will evolve past it when he finds someone who captures his attention and his heart. If anything, it’s inspiring because he’ll hold out a little longer and not settle for just anyone.

Perfect example just happened to a very close friend of mine. He was a bigger man whore than I was, if anyone can believe that! And last month he told me that he found “the one”. After years of wading through the dating cess-pool, he is in “LUUUUUV”. I met her and she’s a great chick - everything he was looking for. He found the white buffalo! That’s a GOOD thing!

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

But then on the other hand, I’m not sure what is the appeal of dating around other than the idea that there’s an ideal hidden somewhere, if I just go out with enough men, many of whom are tedious and some of whom give off women-hating vibes. Nothing’s more fun than watching a guy’s face twist with hatred as he describes his psycho ex over a plate of wings.[/quote]

Here’s a novel idea for you: don’t ask about his ex… Or, if the conversation heads in that direction, simply say, “you know, I’d rather not talk about your ex or my ex - let’s keep things fun”. Try that on.

I personally NEVER ask about a woman’s sexual or dating history. Sometimes things come up as a context to a story or conversation, but I feel that this whole need to get a person’s complete history is coming from a place of insecurity and/or judgement and only serves to give me a context to relate myself to that history - either positively or negatively. This creates baggage from the start. And there’s no indication that if there is truely “pertinant data” that you are far along enough in the “relationship” that the person will be comfortable sharing things the same way as they would if the felt safe and unthreatened. So the data you are likely to recieve is skewed, altered or omitted - that’s just human nature.

So I usually just leave that part out and focus on the present/future, rather than the past when getting to know someone. It’s actually pretty liberating and keeps the vibes positive, which is pretty important at the beginning.[/quote]

You think I ASK about exes?? No. And I avoid like the plague people (any people, coworkers, potential friends, whatever) who talk bitterly about anything, unless it’s a close intimate and the thing is freshly happening. Or at work, where I get paid to listen to people gripe - and even then I intervene when bitterness arises. Hurt, unhappy? Fine (at work, not on a date, lol). Bitter? No. Or here, where I occasionally like to lecture the bitter people for reasons unknown to any of us.

If exes come up I give a stock “eh, good and bad, long marriage and all” regarding mine and expect something similar. Not because I think everyone has a sunny divorce, but because it’s polite and pleasant.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

But then on the other hand, I’m not sure what is the appeal of dating around other than the idea that there’s an ideal hidden somewhere, if I just go out with enough men, many of whom are tedious and some of whom give off women-hating vibes. Nothing’s more fun than watching a guy’s face twist with hatred as he describes his psycho ex over a plate of wings.[/quote]

Here’s a novel idea for you: don’t ask about his ex… Or, if the conversation heads in that direction, simply say, “you know, I’d rather not talk about your ex or my ex - let’s keep things fun”. Try that on.

I personally NEVER ask about a woman’s sexual or dating history. Sometimes things come up as a context to a story or conversation, but I feel that this whole need to get a person’s complete history is coming from a place of insecurity and/or judgement and only serves to give me a context to relate myself to that history - either positively or negatively. This creates baggage from the start. And there’s no indication that if there is truely “pertinant data” that you are far along enough in the “relationship” that the person will be comfortable sharing things the same way as they would if the felt safe and unthreatened. So the data you are likely to recieve is skewed, altered or omitted - that’s just human nature.

So I usually just leave that part out and focus on the present/future, rather than the past when getting to know someone. It’s actually pretty liberating and keeps the vibes positive, which is pretty important at the beginning.[/quote]

You should keep in mind that my social skills match, and possibly exceed, yours. I’m very good at people, VERY good at meeting them and making them feel like they’re having a good time. I do this for a living - people come to me to tell me the shittiest things about themselves and their families, and I make it an enjoyable and relaxed experience in almost all cases.

It’s not at ALL that I don’t know how to talk or comport myself. It’s just the opposite, really. I’m like a female YOU who doesn’t want to score!

And who shuts down when it gets to that stuff. I’m still objectively fun! I’m just not able to think clearly.

[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Okay cant read all of this thread.

Can someone give me some cliff notes?

Q do ever think maybe you think about all this stuff to much? Meaning you OVER think/analyse all this.

Just a thought, dont yell at me :slight_smile: [/quote]

I’m going to give what you’ve said a great deal of thought, Derek, and will respond at length after I’ve had time to really turn it over and view it from all angles. :slight_smile:

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hahahaahahahhahahaa awesome.

I dont believe you go through relationships with your head in the clouds and the lust in your loins, but you also should not go through it like a you are a psychologist analysing every little thing. Just my .02, sometimes what makes a relationship great is a little of both of these. [/quote]

Actually, I think I do exactly that (head in clouds, loins in lust) which seems to be the concensus on this thread, if I’m not misreading AC and Chushin, etc.

I have more to say, naturally, but I need to say some stuff to my agency’s documentation system before I get fired.[/quote]

My loins are always in lust[/quote]

I can buy my own drinks, so don’t think I’m going to kiss you. And I don’t see anyone more than once a week. And this is the last post I’m writing to you until - Thursday![/quote]

Emily, if you ever laid eyes on me you’d be asking to buy my drinks and praying I’d plant a passionate one on ya. I’m sorry but Thursday is not good for me I already have plans with Sturgeon that day.

Yours very truly,

Lusty Loins
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Right… If badgering me on the forums constitutes “having plans”. [/quote]

Just do what I do. Insult him in Japanese and Swahili.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

But then on the other hand, I’m not sure what is the appeal of dating around other than the idea that there’s an ideal hidden somewhere, if I just go out with enough men, many of whom are tedious and some of whom give off women-hating vibes. Nothing’s more fun than watching a guy’s face twist with hatred as he describes his psycho ex over a plate of wings.[/quote]

Here’s a novel idea for you: don’t ask about his ex… Or, if the conversation heads in that direction, simply say, “you know, I’d rather not talk about your ex or my ex - let’s keep things fun”. Try that on.

I personally NEVER ask about a woman’s sexual or dating history. Sometimes things come up as a context to a story or conversation, but I feel that this whole need to get a person’s complete history is coming from a place of insecurity and/or judgement and only serves to give me a context to relate myself to that history - either positively or negatively. This creates baggage from the start. And there’s no indication that if there is truely “pertinant data” that you are far along enough in the “relationship” that the person will be comfortable sharing things the same way as they would if the felt safe and unthreatened. So the data you are likely to recieve is skewed, altered or omitted - that’s just human nature.

So I usually just leave that part out and focus on the present/future, rather than the past when getting to know someone. It’s actually pretty liberating and keeps the vibes positive, which is pretty important at the beginning.[/quote]

You should keep in mind that my social skills match, and possibly exceed, yours. I’m very good at people, VERY good at meeting them and making them feel like they’re having a good time. I do this for a living - people come to me to tell me the shittiest things about themselves and their families, and I make it an enjoyable and relaxed experience in almost all cases.

It’s not at ALL that I don’t know how to talk or comport myself. It’s just the opposite, really. I’m like a female YOU who doesn’t want to score!

And who shuts down when it gets to that stuff. I’m still objectively fun! I’m just not able to think clearly.[/quote]

Just makin’ sure! That paragraph you wrote up there made me think otherwise, that’s all.

LOL at “I’m like a female YOU who doesn’t want to score”. That’s some funny shit right there, Em! And who says I want to score? I’ve scored plenty, I MUCH prefer the chase! LOL

OMG, if it’s not you, then maybe I am the one who wants to score!! No wonder it’s gotten all messed up!

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
OMG, if it’s not you, then maybe I am the one who wants to score!! No wonder it’s gotten all messed up![/quote]

Talk about a role reversal! LOL

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Here’s a novel idea for you: don’t ask about his ex… Or, if the conversation heads in that direction, simply say, “you know, I’d rather not talk about your ex or my ex - let’s keep things fun”. Try that on.

[/quote]

I say let them blather on. It’s better to suffer through the nauseum for one date and find out what you need to know then it is for them to be quiet for weeks or months before you find out all the drama they get involved with.

Here’s a tip for you single guys that two very wise men (Mark & Brian) once told me (over the radio). Find out how the girls past relationships went and that will be a very good indicator of how your relationship will go with her. Since hearing that over 25 years ago, it has rang true in my experiences and observations over and over again. Victims; avoid them. Drama queens; avoid them. Wrecked a few men; stay the fuck away. Cheaters; no (not that they’re likely to disclose that early on, but what the heck).

There of course can be rare exceptions but usually not. It’s never an exception if there are multiple examples of her “bad luck”. Good luck guys.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Nah, he’ll get over it. It’s an immature expectation, nothing eternal about it. He will evolve past it when he finds someone who captures his attention and his heart. If anything, it’s inspiring because he’ll hold out a little longer and not settle for just anyone.

Perfect example just happened to a very close friend of mine. He was a bigger man whore than I was, if anyone can believe that! And last month he told me that he found “the one”. After years of wading through the dating cess-pool, he is in “LUUUUUV”. I met her and she’s a great chick - everything he was looking for. He found the white buffalo! That’s a GOOD thing! [/quote]

Is it just me, or have you returned from your hiatus down South more open to positive, fulfilling relationships with women?[/quote]

I suppose you could say that… But I’m still a male chauvenist pig, though! LOL

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Nah, he’ll get over it. It’s an immature expectation, nothing eternal about it. He will evolve past it when he finds someone who captures his attention and his heart. If anything, it’s inspiring because he’ll hold out a little longer and not settle for just anyone.

Perfect example just happened to a very close friend of mine. He was a bigger man whore than I was, if anyone can believe that! And last month he told me that he found “the one”. After years of wading through the dating cess-pool, he is in “LUUUUUV”. I met her and she’s a great chick - everything he was looking for. He found the white buffalo! That’s a GOOD thing! [/quote]

Is it just me, or have you returned from your hiatus down South more open to positive, fulfilling relationships with women?[/quote]

I suppose you could say that… But I’m still a male chauvenist pig, though! LOL[/quote]

Ha!

And I’m old enough to recall when that phrase was coined.[/quote]
Hey! Me too!

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Orion I figured out what I find so annoying about you.

At first I thought it was just your world view and aspie bitterness about women, but now I realize what it actually is.

You just marble mouth all the fuckin time, have you ever wrote a concise post in your life? Do you talk like this in the real world? Shit conversations with you must be like doing LSD.[/quote]

You should see me when I am stoned, then its insinuations and innuendos all the way.

As for aspie, there is something to that, mostly because the people who coined the terms I use were exactly that.

I think what really annoys you though is that at its core, my view of women and relationships with them is utterly void of emotions.

That is necessarily aspie as such, it is inhuman.

A bit…unsettling.

Also, some people get me just fine, so maybe its you.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Nah, he’ll get over it. It’s an immature expectation, nothing eternal about it. He will evolve past it when he finds someone who captures his attention and his heart. If anything, it’s inspiring because he’ll hold out a little longer and not settle for just anyone.

Perfect example just happened to a very close friend of mine. He was a bigger man whore than I was, if anyone can believe that! And last month he told me that he found “the one”. After years of wading through the dating cess-pool, he is in “LUUUUUV”. I met her and she’s a great chick - everything he was looking for. He found the white buffalo! That’s a GOOD thing! [/quote]

Is it just me, or have you returned from your hiatus down South more open to positive, fulfilling relationships with women?[/quote]

I suppose you could say that… But I’m still a male chauvenist pig, though! LOL[/quote]

Ha!

And I’m old enough to recall when that phrase was coined.[/quote]
Hey! Me too![/quote]

Usotsuki!
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lol

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Orion I figured out what I find so annoying about you.

At first I thought it was just your world view and aspie bitterness about women, but now I realize what it actually is.

You just marble mouth all the fuckin time, have you ever wrote a concise post in your life? Do you talk like this in the real world? Shit conversations with you must be like doing LSD.[/quote]

You should see me when I am stoned, then its insinuations and innuendos all the way.

As for aspie, there is something to that, mostly because the people who coined the terms I use were exactly that.

I think what really annoys you though is that at its core, my view of women and relationships with them is utterly void of emotions. [/quote]

Fear and insecurity radiate from your every utterance on the matter.

[quote]That is necessarily aspie as such, it is inhuman.

A bit…unsettling.

Also, some people get me just fine, so maybe its you. [/quote]

The people who get you share that fear.

On Edge, there’s a lot of validity to what you say.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]The Other Titan wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Okay cant read all of this thread.

Can someone give me some cliff notes?

Q do ever think maybe you think about all this stuff to much? Meaning you OVER think/analyse all this.

Just a thought, dont yell at me :slight_smile: [/quote]

I’m going to give what you’ve said a great deal of thought, Derek, and will respond at length after I’ve had time to really turn it over and view it from all angles. :slight_smile:

[/quote]
hahahaahahahhahahaa awesome.

I dont believe you go through relationships with your head in the clouds and the lust in your loins, but you also should not go through it like a you are a psychologist analysing every little thing. Just my .02, sometimes what makes a relationship great is a little of both of these. [/quote]

Actually, I think I do exactly that (head in clouds, loins in lust) which seems to be the concensus on this thread, if I’m not misreading AC and Chushin, etc.

I have more to say, naturally, but I need to say some stuff to my agency’s documentation system before I get fired.[/quote]

My loins are always in lust[/quote]

I can buy my own drinks, so don’t think I’m going to kiss you. And I don’t see anyone more than once a week. And this is the last post I’m writing to you until - Thursday![/quote]
Uh was that to Titan or Me?

Will you buy my drinks?

Do you purposely choose the day? Or do you just let it happen? [/quote]

You’re not allowed to have drinks with anyone. And I certainly don’t want to get beat up over you!

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That was not literally “me” I was referring to, should have been more clear.

That was in no way shape or form asking you to buy me drinks Q.

I am retired from Orions “game”

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Nah, he’ll get over it. It’s an immature expectation, nothing eternal about it. He will evolve past it when he finds someone who captures his attention and his heart. If anything, it’s inspiring because he’ll hold out a little longer and not settle for just anyone.

Perfect example just happened to a very close friend of mine. He was a bigger man whore than I was, if anyone can believe that! And last month he told me that he found “the one”. After years of wading through the dating cess-pool, he is in “LUUUUUV”. I met her and she’s a great chick - everything he was looking for. He found the white buffalo! That’s a GOOD thing! [/quote]

Is it just me, or have you returned from your hiatus down South more open to positive, fulfilling relationships with women?[/quote]
Uh did you miss the memo?

Check G+ I will not say what changed.