[quote]strengthstudent wrote:
I was at this meet and saw your bench mishap and the subsequent issues. Bench mis-loads are awful. I’ve been there and I know it sucks. Kudos for coming back from all that pain though. I was impressed by that. Are you doing the APC nationals or another fed? I think APC and SPF nationals are right about the same time. [/quote]
Yah that was less than ideal, but shit happens just gotta keep on truckin through it. Did you and I talk any? I met a lot of people I hadn’t ever met before and it was a real quality set of competitors in my mind. I plan on doing APC nationals - even though I will say I’m disappointed it’s so close to this meet, I would have liked it to be another month out or so. What about you?[/quote]
We spoke briefly in the warm-up room. I kept thinking, “Is that LiquidMercury?” but I wasn’t 100% sure so I never mentioned it. I’m not sure you saw it, but I’m the guy who pulled the token DL that everybody was so amused with (I had some issues with my recovering torn hamstring). I’m doing SPF nationals but I’ll be at the APC nationals helping out some buddies. It’s just a little too close to this meet for my liking. I think there will be another APC meet in the area in October though, and I’m planning on doing that one if I have the time.
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You were competing junior, equipped right? CJ?
I know what you mean about APC being too close and I wouldn’t bother doing it if I wasn’t thinking about going to APC Worlds. At this point I need a bit more meet experience as well so even though I would have preferred another month or so of training before the meet it is what it is and it’ll let me dial things in a bit better.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
I like reading about how people manage themselves at a meet. Warmups, openers, subsequent attempts, etc. It really is an art, knowing your body and selecting the appropriate weights for each attempt of each lift.
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It comes down to experience. You will never see a rookie get it right the first time. I’m on my 5th meet and my meet planning is different in every aspect then it was at my first meet.[/quote]
Without a doubt. This was a good meet in terms of learning, especially after such a big weight drop. I’m lucky that I have a team around me that have done an insane amount of meets and all have had multiple world titles/records. It definitely helps when all you have to do is just lift. I didn’t even know what I was lifting during bench, just let them choose.
What procedure did you follow to cut so much weight? i may be finding myself in a similar situation as i have no desire to compete at 242 and need to get down to 220
Plan:
Been having around 2.5-3 gallons of water a day with high sodium/potassium for the past few days. Been super low carb (under 30g/day) for the last 10 days.
Wed:
Restrict Salt at dinner, switch to distilled water
Thurs:
3 meals before 2 PM - mainly asparagus, celery, peanut butter, and protein shakes in coconut milk.
Each meal will also have: 500mg Dandelion Root, 400 mg Caffeine, 99mg Potassium. Water intake will be about 1/3rd what it normally is at this point - no more than 1/2 gallon.
2 PM-4PM = Nap time
4 PM = Start of dehydration process using 15 min sub-scalding baths and steam. Minimum of 2 baths per hour. Depending on how this goes through the night I may take another nap at some point.
In reality I would do 3 cycles in the steam room, hop out for a few mins, then go to the sauna and read a book for a bit (helped with the mental aspect), hope out take a slightly longer break and then get back in the steam. If I started to get really overheated I’d run cold water over my scalp but was careful to avoid minimizing water contact with my skin (at that point my body would have reabsorbed water through the skin and anything you reabsorb you have to get back out to make weight). I would also chew on ice chips and then spit them out for a bit of sanity.
Fri:
Weigh-in (I’ll be so pretty all dried out! I’ll also feel like death most likely).
10:00 AM - I make weight!
Immediately following making weight - 2 pedialytes + 2 nalgenes of distilled water + 2.75 tbsp of glycerol (based on bodyweight) mixed in each one as well as 5g creatine monohydrate. Also supplement with 300mg ALA. Get this down asap.
I’ll then proceed to have solid meals keeping carbs around 4:1 ratio and trying to pack in the food. Each meal will have 5g creatine monohydrate, 300mg ALA, 75mg Salt, and I’ll take 200mg potassium (4 pills) throughout the day.
Target Weight: 210-215.
NOTE: I ended up using steam room/sauna instead of hot baths which I felt worked very well. I also only got my weight back up to 207 after making weight instead of the anticipated 210. Fell asleep some on Friday and didn’t get enough solid food in me.
[quote]daraz wrote:
Been on this site for 5 years and a 1300 total, guess those who can’t do give forum advice online
Oh wait you’re training by yourself that’s why you’re so strong[/quote]
He hasn’t been training for powerlifting that long, and even so 1300 raw @ 181 isn’t too shabby, especially considering it’s his 2nd meet. Despite his relatively few years training, he obviously grasps powerlifting training concepts and from what I have seen has been nothing but helpful on the forums.
Also, I still haven’t decided whether you’re a troll or not.[/quote]
He’s a troll.
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Defineitly a troll. I don’t even get why people bother replying to his posts sometimes when they’re obviously a joke. Kinda funny really.
[quote]daraz wrote:
Been on this site for 5 years and a 1300 total, guess those who can’t do give forum advice online
Oh wait you’re training by yourself that’s why you’re so strong[/quote]
He hasn’t been training for powerlifting that long, and even so 1300 raw @ 181 isn’t too shabby, especially considering it’s his 2nd meet. Despite his relatively few years training, he obviously grasps powerlifting training concepts and from what I have seen has been nothing but helpful on the forums.
Also, I still haven’t decided whether you’re a troll or not.[/quote]
He’s a troll.
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Defineitly a troll. I don’t even get why people bother replying to his posts sometimes when they’re obviously a joke. Kinda funny really.
[quote]kyushomaster wrote:
So following the method you outlined, you dropped 21 lbs overnight? If you only had to drop 10 would you do anything differently??
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Yes follow the method I outlined I dropped 21 lbs in about 16 hours total time. In that time frame I also had about a 2 hour nap.
If I had to only drop 10, I would have simply started my dehydration later. The goal should be to minimize the amount of time you are dehydrated. For instance I know I dropped 15 lbs in about 7 hours. If my weigh-in is at 10 AM on a Friday morning, assuming I only have to drop 10lbs, I would probably start dehydrating out at 3 AM Friday morning to be safe and allow some leeway if it didn’t come off quite as quick. if I get ahead of schedule I’ll probably take an hour or two nap and then finish the last few lbs around 7 AM-9:45 AM. If I was absolutely positive I could lose the 10 in a matter of 5 hours then I’d start at 5 AM, I just like to leave myself a 2 hour leeway just in case.
[quote]black_angus1 wrote:
LM, was this raw or equipped? For some reason I always thought you were a raw lifter, but then I saw you post about gear in another thread.[/quote]
It was raw dawg. But he used some cheatin’ ass knee wraps ;).
Nice going mercury…quick question. Had you not dropped 21 lbs and walked into the 198lb class do you think you would have done more? Curious if you lose a lot dropping and refilling?
[quote]HARA wrote:
Nice going mercury…quick question. Had you not dropped 21 lbs and walked into the 198lb class do you think you would have done more? Curious if you lose a lot dropping and refilling?[/quote]
To be honest no. Though I did not perform to my liking I believe these were technical mistakes, nothing to do with physical performance. My 502 squat felt so ridiculously light that I really really wish I hadn’t screwed the pooch on my 2nd attempt and lost balance. I might have bumped it out to 545 or so.
My method is very specific to me and I know how things affect me. I’m used to 2 hour weigh ins for rowing and have been doing those for the better part of 10 years so these 24 hour weigh-ins, while they are usually bigger cuts, tend to be slightly easier on me in terms of minimizing performance loss. Further more, my teammates all concluded that I looked bigger than I normally do and that things were really going well for me - most of them were doubters before as to whether I could even make weight, and they assumed if I made weight I wouldn’t be worth a crap the next day. There wasn’t any doubters after the meet and we are extremely honest with each.
[quote]black_angus1 wrote:
LM, was this raw or equipped? For some reason I always thought you were a raw lifter, but then I saw you post about gear in another thread.[/quote]
As Chaz said - it was raw though I did use wraps (hell if they’re going to let me use them I’m going to use them).
I do bring up gear because I have a set of single ply stuff I recently bought and I do intend on competing in single ply at some point though for the most part I’ll stick with raw because it has greater carryover to my rowing.
[quote]HARA wrote:
Nice going mercury…quick question. Had you not dropped 21 lbs and walked into the 198lb class do you think you would have done more? Curious if you lose a lot dropping and refilling?[/quote]
To be honest no. Though I did not perform to my liking I believe these were technical mistakes, nothing to do with physical performance. My 502 squat felt so ridiculously light that I really really wish I hadn’t screwed the pooch on my 2nd attempt and lost balance. I might have bumped it out to 545 or so.
My method is very specific to me and I know how things affect me. I’m used to 2 hour weigh ins for rowing and have been doing those for the better part of 10 years so these 24 hour weigh-ins, while they are usually bigger cuts, tend to be slightly easier on me in terms of minimizing performance loss. Further more, my teammates all concluded that I looked bigger than I normally do and that things were really going well for me - most of them were doubters before as to whether I could even make weight, and they assumed if I made weight I wouldn’t be worth a crap the next day. There wasn’t any doubters after the meet and we are extremely honest with each.[/quote]
That 502 squat did have a lot of speed on it. You’ll hit that 550+ at nationals for sure.
Great write up, especially the details on cutting water and refilling. I’m just curious what your approx. BF% is, if you don’t mind me asking? I’ve dumped 10-12 lbs. of water in a pretty short period but I was also carrying around some extra fat. That’s a pretty impressive water dump and I was just wondering if you we able to do that with a fairly low BF%.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Great write up, especially the details on cutting water and refilling. I’m just curious what your approx. BF% is, if you don’t mind me asking? I’ve dumped 10-12 lbs. of water in a pretty short period but I was also carrying around some extra fat. That’s a pretty impressive water dump and I was just wondering if you we able to do that with a fairly low BF%.
Again, awesome job. [/quote]
I’dy say I’m around 10% or so. I have vascularity in my quads and shoulders and a decent set of abs. I really wish I had taken pictures once I dried out. I would say I looked “ripped” at that point.
