Meat, eggs, milk, and protein - an informal survey

No idea! Might have been his lucky number or something.

Also, I remember him as being quite a fat dude, but I just Googled him and he really wasn’t. He’s definitely not skinny, but he’s leaner than your average power lifter.

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Do you really think they need that much??

Our digestive systems… provided you’re normal and healthy… can digest massive amounts of food. More slowly, of course. Personally, I just prefer eating 2 larger, sometimes 3… to avoid all the hassle.

Have you ever tried 2 a day?

Ya mine too. 26 is an annoying number for some reason

Maybe when I was doing the Recon Indoc 6,000 calories but sheesh

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I got paid bi-weekly the 41 years that I worked. So, there were 26 pay periods in a year. I find the number comforting. BTW, I get 26 pension checks every year. Plus, two months in the year I get 3 checks those months.

26 might be my favorite number

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Blocked ! Hhahahaha

December is my 3 paychecks month. On top of bonus and shares, it’s the best month.

I mean…it’s two BAKER’S dozens…

EDIT: Just saw that @RT_Nomad beat me to this.

I was also thinking maybe it was like the movie Kingpin, where the Amish do everything the english do plus half. Instead of bowling 10 frames, they bowled 15. This guy is stepping it up!

And perhaps they were taking a page from the Bruce Randall breakfast

He was so close!

My opinion, I think protein is highly overrated here. Yes it’s important but my understanding of protein and experimenting is pointing to the best time to eat protein is post workout for the repair process along with other important nutrients like fats and natural carb sources.

Fats are needed for energy.

I believe trying to get all this protein throughout the day isn’t needed at all.

You need calories to maintain or gain weight, period.

Muscles are built in the gym. If you don’t think this, then eat all the protein you want and ease up on lifting, see how much muscle you really gain. Muscle is built by adapting to stress of progressing in weights and work capacity.

Leaning out happens by cutting calories, period.

From my experience, the stronger I get, the more work I do the more muscle I build regardless of counting any protein. I can eat only 100grams or under one day and it won’t affect me negatively as long as I’m getting fats and carbs and progressing in work with the weights. However it’s more important when I eat most of that protein, like post workout.

I may or may not eat a pound of meat everyday or most days……

But I can say for sure because I buy the fresh fish, when I get fish I usually get Cod and I get a slab that is at least 1.10 pound and I eat it all in one sitting.

I may or may not eat other meat that same day.

I also eat about a 1/3 jar of natty PB with about 2-stalks of celery daily right now!
That’s fats/protien/potassium (plus I eat at least 1-2 bananas a day) and vitamins.

If you are eating celery you’re not natty.

I think about this the opposite way. The gym is the stimulus, and then food and rest do the building. You don’t build anything in the gym.

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You can’t not eat!

Therefore you have to eat to build muscle just like you can’t not lift anything and expect to build more muscle.

When it comes down to whats really building muscle, it’s training.

Again, you can’t “not eat”.

So, I prove this by saying, eat food and don’t train harder, what’s going to happen, you aren’t going to grow muscle, will grow fatter.

Now, do the opposite, train harder and harder to where everyone says your overtraining, eat to survive and progress in your training only. Ignore the clock and the scale, look in the mirror only.
I bet muscles still become harder and denser, this is muscle growth.

Sure, there are other things that will make us bigger like tricks with water retention and sodium, sugar etc much of that is smoke and mirror stuff and temporary.

I’m talking real muscle development and strength.

This needs emphasized. First there is stimulus, then comes recovery, and only then can there be adaptation (muscle growth.)

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Yup. And we tend to see that “ectomorphs” tend to be those that overstimulate and underrecover, while endos have the reverse issue.

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Oxygen is highly underrated in this as well.

Also, “hardgainer” is myth.

I normally don’t look back in regrets but getting sucked into the hardgainer thing I wish I could go back to my old self and say “stop fing around”

BTW, I was an ecto when I began this, skinny 130# hippy.
I got plenty of fat mass falling into the hardgainer thoughts. But I also fell into the 6-meals a day and at least 1-1.5 grams of protein nonsense. At least latter was bettter with having overall definition.

This begs the question: Is “easygainer” also a myth?

Yes easygainer is a myth also.

The guys you think are genetic wonders still worked way harder than the majority of people chasing dreams thinking they need to eat perfect and program perfect.

Take a guy with drive and no fear of overtraining with poor genetics
and he’ll eventually get farther than a lazy genetic wonder.

I wonder if there is anything to learn here.

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I started at almost the same place (see earlier in the thread,) and practically doubled my bodyweight.

I like your enthusiasm though.

And I’m still kind of a hippy.

This sounds like “hardgainer” excuses.