[quote]horsepuss wrote:
My reesponse to your pic, This is how I role.[/quote]
1 o’ clock, i see about 4 Bon Jovi albums. seriously.
I remember letting some douchebag and his girlfriend into the back to use the bathroom at work (they’re locked).
The guy was your typical wannabe thug/tweaker. GF wasn’t bad except for all the meth scratches on her face and arms. I was perfectly polite but on my way to the men’s I noticed there was some wet soggy cardboard on the drinking fountain and took a step back to grab it before I let him into the bathroom. Literally a one second transaction; but apparently he took affront and mumbled (just loud enough for me to hear) “Imma about to fight this fool…”
At this his girlfriend started soothing his ego “it’s okay baby it’s not a big deal don’t get crazy” etc. I turned around, stood still and raised my eyebrows. He just walked past me and I let him into the bathroom. She apologized profusely and said he “wasn’t feeling well”. I assured her it was no problem and went about my business.
Still can’t make much sense of it but I figure he was just in a bad mood and looking to get into it with somebody. I’m not intimidating by any means (clean cut 5’9 white guys rarely are) but by the same token, I refuse to be intimidated. Especially by someone wearing skinny jeans who thinks he’s gangster.
Politeness works. As does not being a pussy.
[quote]undesired08 wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
Carlitosway wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
powerful01 wrote:
Does anyone ever experience this:
I was in the store and some wannabe gangster was looking at me but would’nt make eye contact. When I saw him in the parking lot, him and his other wannabe gangster friends “mean mugged” me (staring while trying to intimidate) What were they trying to prove. I stared back. Is this supposed to induce fear. I hope to see all of them by themselves. I think I’m going to ask them if they think staring is rude. If they get the answer wrong , I’m going to slap the shit out of them them til they get it right. I would have done it then but these fuckers would have probably jumped me. I could have gotten 2 of them for sure but my 1911 was’nt in the car for the rest of them.
Also whoever in Golds Gym Waldorf, MD that found my Inzer wrist wraps give me my shit back.
And yeah ChapStick is part of my every day carry items.
I think the best way in this situation is to casually wave at the guy, not being a smartass, just as if you waved a friendly stranger.
LOL!!!
Sign number one that the guy writing has never been in a “bad” neighborhood.
However, that mental image of Mr. Rogers meeting the projects is funny as hell.
alright his comment has me dyin as I visualize some one actually trying this. If after waving like a friendly stranger fails. What would you do next? Give him a pat on the back and ask what’s wrong buddy?
I have never been in a ‘‘bad’’ neighboorhood but I cant see how this could fail.I am gonna rephrase it.
You see some kind of wanna-be thug idiot who tries to intimidate you by staring at you. You say hello, as if there was no animosity. Then HE dont know what do because you don’t play his game.
You like that better?
Are you being serious? I really can’t tell. But, like PX said, you make think you are “diffusing” a situation, but you actions are like a spark in the California woodline. Really, that’s not a wise thing to do.[/quote]
Yeah that is what I would do. I can’t think of a better way in a situation like that. You don’t want to try to outman febble-minded agressive people like that who try to jump on everyone. Even If they are 120lbs and you are 250lbs of muscle some will try to pick on you but with a knife or with a gun in the USA.
I know how they are, the kind of guy who ended up like that because his parent divorced when he was young,or because he is dirty poor, because his father beats him, whatever, finished by dropping out of school at 13 years old to deal drug or have a really crappy job to support himself and pay his dirty closet that he calls an apartment.
So what do you want to do? Be even more aggressive T-MAN and whip out your artillery? This is stupid as fuck and will end bad.
If you have self-confidence and he feels that you are not affected by his attempt to intimidate you, the only way is to show no aggressiveness at all. Remember he is only staring at you. Dont act as if he doesnt, he is and he know you know. so you say hello. You gotta just gotta relax, he is no treat to you. What he wants is get into a confrontation, don’t give him that.
now do you think I am serious
To undesired08:
Thanks for explaining that. I think that Im not actually explaining myself good enough.
To Professor X:
Im from a little fucked up town in Louisiana where shit happens all the time. Im a 3 time war veteran and have seen a lot of shit that would make most men cry or change their life when they get home. I have been all over the world and have seen some crazy shit. Im no gangsta but I can hold my own and have done so for years without shooting anyone who hasnt shot at me. My point of this thread was basically a question to others who have experienced this situation.
To some other posters:
Carrying a gun is a right that some of us have. It doesnt boost your ego like your sorry ass flat bench press.
Why wait for the police when you can protect yourself.
Just because you carry doesn’t mean anything. It doesn’t mean you need your ego stroked or that you’re insecure. It doesn’t mean you can’t fight. It doesn’t mean you’re weak.
It means you’ll do what’s necessary to protect your family and others around you. People who don’t understand that are commonly referred to as ‘the victim’.
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
Just because you carry doesn’t mean anything. It doesn’t mean you need your ego stroked or that you’re insecure. It doesn’t mean you can’t fight. It doesn’t mean you’re weak.
It means you’ll do what’s necessary to protect your family and others around you. People who don’t understand that are commonly referred to as ‘the victim’.[/quote]
Thank you very much!
[quote]powerful01 wrote:
To undesired08:
Thanks for explaining that. I think that Im not actually explaining myself good enough.
To Professor X:
Im from a little fucked up town in Louisiana where shit happens all the time. Im a 3 time war veteran and have seen a lot of shit that would make most men cry or change their life when they get home. I have been all over the world and have seen some crazy shit. Im no gangsta but I can hold my own and have done so for years without shooting anyone who hasnt shot at me. My point of this thread was basically a question to others who have experienced this situation.
To some other posters:
Carrying a gun is a right that some of us have. It doesnt boost your ego like your sorry ass flat bench press.
Why wait for the police when you can protect yourself.
[/quote]
Damn I’d hate to be a guy stupid enough to break into your house!!!
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
undesired08 wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
Carlitosway wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
powerful01 wrote:
Does anyone ever experience this:
I was in the store and some wannabe gangster was looking at me but would’nt make eye contact. When I saw him in the parking lot, him and his other wannabe gangster friends “mean mugged” me (staring while trying to intimidate) What were they trying to prove. I stared back. Is this supposed to induce fear. I hope to see all of them by themselves. I think I’m going to ask them if they think staring is rude. If they get the answer wrong , I’m going to slap the shit out of them them til they get it right. I would have done it then but these fuckers would have probably jumped me. I could have gotten 2 of them for sure but my 1911 was’nt in the car for the rest of them.
Also whoever in Golds Gym Waldorf, MD that found my Inzer wrist wraps give me my shit back.
And yeah ChapStick is part of my every day carry items.
I think the best way in this situation is to casually wave at the guy, not being a smartass, just as if you waved a friendly stranger.
LOL!!!
Sign number one that the guy writing has never been in a “bad” neighborhood.
However, that mental image of Mr. Rogers meeting the projects is funny as hell.
alright his comment has me dyin as I visualize some one actually trying this. If after waving like a friendly stranger fails. What would you do next? Give him a pat on the back and ask what’s wrong buddy?
I have never been in a ‘‘bad’’ neighboorhood but I cant see how this could fail.I am gonna rephrase it.
You see some kind of wanna-be thug idiot who tries to intimidate you by staring at you. You say hello, as if there was no animosity. Then HE dont know what do because you don’t play his game.
You like that better?
Are you being serious? I really can’t tell. But, like PX said, you make think you are “diffusing” a situation, but you actions are like a spark in the California woodline. Really, that’s not a wise thing to do.
Yeah that is what I would do. I can’t think of a better way in a situation like that. You don’t want to try to outman febble-minded agressive people like that who try to jump on everyone. Even If they are 120lbs and you are 250lbs of muscle some will try to pick on you but with a knife or with a gun in the USA.
I know how they are, the kind of guy who ended up like that because his parent divorced when he was young,or because he is dirty poor, because his father beats him, whatever, finished by dropping out of school at 13 years old to deal drug or have a really crappy job to support himself and pay his dirty closet that he calls an apartment.
So what do you want to do? Be even more aggressive T-MAN and whip out your artillery? This is stupid as fuck and will end bad.
If you have self-confidence and he feels that you are not affected by his attempt to intimidate you, the only way is to show no aggressiveness at all. Remember he is only staring at you. Dont act as if he doesnt, he is and he know you know. so you say hello. You gotta just gotta relax, he is no treat to you. What he wants is get into a confrontation, don’t give him that.
now do you think I am serious[/quote]
I think you are being a little “holier than thou” actually. I love how you have these dream scenarios of how you react and how they react back. That is more than fine for you. And, no, I don’t want to hear about the time you “killed a criminals ideas with kindness”. You don’t know me, so don’t try to put your ideals of how I am or any of my pistol packing friends are and or how we act.
I love how docile people always use the “it’s a masculine thing or T-Man”. My wife carrys a pistol, what does that make her? A crazy bitch that wants to have a penis? By the way, criminals aren’t criminals due to some type of family dysfunction. They are the way they are because they can do it. And to think it’s because mommy didn’t hug them is just fucking ignorant.
Quit being a fucking bitch getting aggitated by another dude eye-fucking you… have you ever been confronted? did you act like a bitch then? if the answer is “no” than you have nothing to prove to yourself so let it go.
respectfully,
spy
You gotta step into they ass Larry.
Tell them “hey hi you doing” it gets them every time.
[quote]powerful01 wrote:
To undesired08:
Thanks for explaining that. I think that Im not actually explaining myself good enough.
To Professor X:
Im from a little fucked up town in Louisiana where shit happens all the time. Im a 3 time war veteran and have seen a lot of shit that would make most men cry or change their life when they get home. I have been all over the world and have seen some crazy shit. Im no gangsta but I can hold my own and have done so for years without shooting anyone who hasnt shot at me. My point of this thread was basically a question to others who have experienced this situation.
To some other posters:
Carrying a gun is a right that some of us have. It doesnt boost your ego like your sorry ass flat bench press.
Why wait for the police when you can protect yourself.
[/quote]
When seconds matter, the police are only minutes away…
Well if your argument is “protection” then why not carry a knife. The reason I say this is because guns have a high probability of escalating not sedating situations (making things worse). Then again carry a gun if you want its your right and everyone respects that. But some people do carry guns to boost their egos. I’m a proponent of a gun in your house (in the right place of course).
Wouldn’t make a whole lotta sense to pull a knife if I have my one-year-old daughter in my arms, really. I do carry one of those, too, though it’s more a tool than a weapon.
The piece is a last resort. I don’t go waving it around at the first sign of conflict. I really would hate to have to use it.
And for those of us who are ADULTS and have seen the results of gun violence, it’s damn sure not an ego-boost. It’s a huge fucking responsibility. If I make the wrong decision and end up in jail for 20 years, how much good have I done for my family?
Some of us think about more important things than the image others have of us.
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
The piece is a last resort. I don’t go waving it around at the first sign of conflict. I really would hate to have to use it.[/quote]
Maybe you yourself are like this, but I don’t think that most people that carry a gun on behave like this.
For example, what if I were walking down the sidewalk checking my messages on my phone not paying attention and accidentally bumped into someone that was walking with their wife and kids, carrying a small arsenal on them.
All of a sudden it’s the wild west scenario where little old me is percieved as some sort of threat to their safety. Now I have a gun in my face for a completely harmless mistake.
I think most people that carry a gun on them so it because it makes them feel better than everyone else. Like it’s some sort of security blanket that they can show to everyone else to let them know that they are not the one to fuck with.
There is a debate here at my school about letting CWC on campus. Of course if they do allow concealed carry on campus, most of the wannabe thugs will simply read it as “I take my gun to school now”, dipshit college kids will be shooting each other over parking spots.
I know that there are responsible gun owners and I’m not against guns, just assholes and stupid people that carry them.
[quote]dirtbag wrote:
WTF is with all the gun luvers. Is the area you live in so bad you need to have a gun on you to feel safe? Or are you paranoid? Maybe a little wanna be gangster too?
Don’t get me wrong guns are nice to look at and take to the range, hunt, protect your home, etc. But why carry them on you. Your just looking for a life sentence.[/quote]
Only if you’re a fucking moron.
Don’t get me wrong I get the gist of your post, but this bugs me. Intelligent people carry for a variety of reasons, and are capable of discerning when they need to use their piece and when to be civil and walk away.
For example, many people carry around this area simply because they want to exercise their right to carry. We have extremely little crime (other than vandalism/stupid drunk college kids), there really isn’t a crime issue here. Just a statement.
I don’t want this to turn into a 2nd amendment thread though. There’s too many already in PWI forums.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’m fuckin’ 46 and way past getting all insecure over some loser giving me the evil eye or calling me a name.
Life’s too short to get angry every time someone pushes your little buttons. I’ve better things to do than devise ways to get even all the time.
Now if said loser puts his hands on me or my loved ones, totally different story.
I can’t even remember the last time someone did that to me. I guess I was probably still in college. People tend to pick up on insecurities. Outside of being around very drunk people who act differently than they normally do, I doubt too many big dudes are really getting stared down regularly. If you carry yourself like someone who gives a shit about people staring them down, then it is probably much more likely to happen.[/quote]
I can. It was 4 days ago this past Sunday night, outside a Buffalo Wild Wings of all fucking places. Drunk ass GI Joe–all 140 lbs of him–trying to walk across the street towards me and talking. But I guess that would fall into the category of “being around very drunk people”.
Not going to lie, I was having a shitty day and really wanted to give in and beat the everloving shit out of him. I have to play nice with drunks at work all week, I’ll be damned if I want to do it on my 1 fucking day off. It’s a rare occurrence to get me riled though. It just ain’t worth it 99 times out of 100.
Only 2 things saved him this time though: 1) It wouldn’t have been anywhere near a fair fight since he was almost too drunk to stand and I’d feel bad beating a kid who wasn’t coordinated enough to walk and 2) He had a relatively sober friend trying to save his ass and get him into a car. I’ve been that sober guy before and it’s not fun.
Rant over. Of course, I really kinda wish I’d had a valid excuse :). Hey, I can’t be the nice guy version of me all the damn time.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
undesired08 wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
Carlitosway wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
powerful01 wrote:
Does anyone ever experience this:
I was in the store and some wannabe gangster was looking at me but would’nt make eye contact. When I saw him in the parking lot, him and his other wannabe gangster friends “mean mugged” me (staring while trying to intimidate) What were they trying to prove. I stared back. Is this supposed to induce fear. I hope to see all of them by themselves. I think I’m going to ask them if they think staring is rude. If they get the answer wrong , I’m going to slap the shit out of them them til they get it right. I would have done it then but these fuckers would have probably jumped me. I could have gotten 2 of them for sure but my 1911 was’nt in the car for the rest of them.
Also whoever in Golds Gym Waldorf, MD that found my Inzer wrist wraps give me my shit back.
And yeah ChapStick is part of my every day carry items.
I think the best way in this situation is to casually wave at the guy, not being a smartass, just as if you waved a friendly stranger.
LOL!!!
Sign number one that the guy writing has never been in a “bad” neighborhood.
However, that mental image of Mr. Rogers meeting the projects is funny as hell.
alright his comment has me dyin as I visualize some one actually trying this. If after waving like a friendly stranger fails. What would you do next? Give him a pat on the back and ask what’s wrong buddy?
I have never been in a ‘‘bad’’ neighboorhood but I cant see how this could fail.I am gonna rephrase it.
You see some kind of wanna-be thug idiot who tries to intimidate you by staring at you. You say hello, as if there was no animosity. Then HE dont know what do because you don’t play his game.
You like that better?
Are you being serious? I really can’t tell. But, like PX said, you make think you are “diffusing” a situation, but you actions are like a spark in the California woodline. Really, that’s not a wise thing to do.
Yeah that is what I would do. I can’t think of a better way in a situation like that. You don’t want to try to outman febble-minded agressive people like that who try to jump on everyone. Even If they are 120lbs and you are 250lbs of muscle some will try to pick on you but with a knife or with a gun in the USA.
I know how they are, the kind of guy who ended up like that because his parent divorced when he was young,or because he is dirty poor, because his father beats him, whatever, finished by dropping out of school at 13 years old to deal drug or have a really crappy job to support himself and pay his dirty closet that he calls an apartment.
So what do you want to do? Be even more aggressive T-MAN and whip out your artillery? This is stupid as fuck and will end bad.
If you have self-confidence and he feels that you are not affected by his attempt to intimidate you, the only way is to show no aggressiveness at all. Remember he is only staring at you. Dont act as if he doesnt, he is and he know you know. so you say hello. You gotta just gotta relax, he is no treat to you. What he wants is get into a confrontation, don’t give him that.
now do you think I am serious[/quote]
I think you are being a little “holier than thou” actually. I love how you have these dream scenarios of how you react and how they react back. That is more than fine for you. And, no, I don’t want to hear about the time you “killed a criminals ideas with kindness”. You don’t know me, so don’t try to put your ideals of how I am or any of my pistol packing friends are and or how we act.
I love how docile people always use the “it’s a masculine thing or T-Man”. My wife carrys a pistol, what does that make her? A crazy bitch that wants to have a penis? By the way, criminals aren’t criminals due to some type of family dysfunction. They are the way they are because they can do it. And to think it’s because mommy didn’t hug them is just fucking ignorant.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Well if your argument is “protection” then why not carry a knife. [/quote]
The phrase “you brought a knife to a gun fight” comes to mind.
[quote]The reason I say this is because guns have a high probability of escalating not sedating situations (making things worse). Then again carry a gun if you want its your right and everyone respects that. But some people do carry guns to boost their egos. I’m a proponent of a gun in your house (in the right place of course).
[/quote]
The probability of escalation is based on the setting, the situation and how you use the gun. It is not universally a high probability that a gun will escalate the situation. In other words, if you’re fronting, then yes. If you’re in the hood, yes. But if you bring the gun out only when things have already boiled over then no, it’s self defense. If you bring it out it in a suburban setting (justifiably), no. It also depends on how you approach the situation.
You have to know the situation.
Some people do carry guns to boost their egos. It’s regrettably true. However, these are usually the people that everyone else is carrying to defend against because they tend to be unbalanced or prone to violence, or (especially) bought the gun illegally in the first place.
I’m a proponent of a gun in the house, at arms reach if there are no kids present. A locked up gun does very little if you can’t get to it in time. A kid complicates things, but 999/1000 times if you educate them properly and expose them to guns PROPERLY early on there’s no problem with having a gun unlocked in the house. Otherwise, safe it and hide the ammo or lock it up.
It always comes back to knowing the situation. Situational awareness, a dying art.
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
Wouldn’t make a whole lotta sense to pull a knife if I have my one-year-old daughter in my arms, really. I do carry one of those, too, though it’s more a tool than a weapon.
[/quote]
True, knives are tools more than weapons. Handy for all sorts of things. That being said, if it were still legal I would totally carry a bastard sword or axe around with me every day. I mean, really, come on. That’s a helluva lot more intimidating than a pissy little knife. Besides, I’m Scandinavian. It’s in our blood to need a large sharp object :).
Yeah, it’s impractical. I just really want to be able to do it once to see people’s reactions…I crack me up.
Sorry for the string posting everyone, I’m bored and having trouble sleeping