MD6

MD6 was so much more than just an ephedrine product, which is why I haven’t bought another subject and don’t need to use google for it. The 5-htp was an incredible part as well.

[quote]Miserere wrote:
aikigreg wrote:
That is a GREAT point. It just bums me out because I would like to incorporate a thermogenic into my supp. program, but HOT-ROX doesn’t help me and I don’t actually trust anyone but Biotest :slight_smile: Makes it tough!

You can now buy ephedra-based fat burners online, as some supplement manufacturers make the most of this grey, ephedra-ban uncertainty period. Use Google![/quote]

[quote]Miserere wrote:
You can now buy ephedra-based fat burners online, as some supplement manufacturers make the most of this grey, ephedra-ban uncertainty period. Use Google![/quote]

Yes, that is a good idea. I think I might stack my HRX with some norephedrine. It damn near would be like the old MD6. Good idea.

As I have both, I can see right after I take the old MD6, byt body literally starts getting warmer.

Again very good idea.

I think it would be perfectly OK at least for some and depending on the individual could help to combine norephedrine (aka phenylpropanolamine or PPA) and/or ephedrine with HOT-ROX.

When we first released HOT-ROX I recommended against adding ephedrine as we had not tried that and it wouldn’t have been safe to assume that this might not be overdoing it.

Actually we still haven’t tried that, as it hasn’t seemed important to do, as ephedrine still isn’t legal for fat-loss purposes or at least is not workable to sell for supplement companies not operating from a moveable shack.

E.g., at least previously and it seems unlikely to be different at present as this happened shortly before the ban, a supplement company can’t get business liability insurance coverage if selling ephedrine; and if selling any substantial volume I’d expect at least a desist letter from the FDA.

However, based on the fact that I’ve done fine stacking HOT-ROX and clenbuterol (short term only, a week at a time, it should not be used longterm and also is in a much worse risk category than ephedrine), which is similar to but stronger than ephedrine, depending on the individual it can be okay and an added effect.

On the norephedrine, it’s a good appetite suppressant but not a good thermogenic. For many A7-E provides good appetite suppression but for others, at least the combination product isn’t appetite-suppressive for them. Adding norephedrine could benefit these users.

I know PPA is in cold medicines. Is it also sold directly? Anybody have any brands they’d recommend?