[quote]facko wrote:
Dude…double quarter pounders with cheese taste good…plus…i prolly ate one once every few days over the last 3 months and noticed little to no change in body comp.[/quote]
Don’t say that… uuuuuhhhhggg… I have made it 11 months without fast foood. I am afraid if i go back i will notice the same thing. And i don’t want to go back. But i am for my year aniversery. I am going to mcdonalds and taco bell to celebrate. hehehe… Trans fats be damned…
[quote]facko wrote:
Dude…double quarter pounders with cheese taste good…plus…i prolly ate one once every few days over the last 3 months and noticed little to no change in body comp.[/quote]
It depends what area you’re genetically weak in.
Some would get fat off of quarter pounders,some would get acne.
Just because you never noticed any change in your body comp doesn’t mean you’re not/weren’t unhealthy.
I see plenty of guys with six packs who are just as unhealthy as those obese people sexually abusing diet soda and slim fast bars day by day.
What you can’t assimilate you can’t eliminate.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
facko wrote:
Dude…double quarter pounders with cheese taste good…plus…i prolly ate one once every few days over the last 3 months and noticed little to no change in body comp.
It depends what area you’re genetically weak in.
Some would get fat off of quarter pounders,some would get acne.
Just because you never noticed any change in your body comp doesn’t mean you’re not/weren’t unhealthy.
I see plenty of guys with six packs who are just as unhealthy as those obese people sexually abusing diet soda and slim fast bars day by day.
What you can’t assimilate you can’t eliminate.[/quote]
A quarter pounder every few days makes you “unhealthy”?
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Some images don’t need captions![/quote]
Yes they do:
You gonna eat those 3 Big Macs, mum?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
facko wrote:
Dude…double quarter pounders with cheese taste good…plus…i prolly ate one once every few days over the last 3 months and noticed little to no change in body comp.
It depends what area you’re genetically weak in.
Some would get fat off of quarter pounders,some would get acne.
Just because you never noticed any change in your body comp doesn’t mean you’re not/weren’t unhealthy.
I see plenty of guys with six packs who are just as unhealthy as those obese people sexually abusing diet soda and slim fast bars day by day.
What you can’t assimilate you can’t eliminate.
A quarter pounder every few days makes you “unhealthy”?[/quote]
By “every few Days” do you mean two times a week,or four times a week?
I believe eating it for months and weeks on end like most Americans do will.
What,people are now considered healthy just because they have six packs?
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
By “every few Days” do you mean two times a week,or four times a week?
I believe eating it for months and weeks on end like most Americans do will.
What,people are now considered healthy just because they have six packs?
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Who on this site is eating like “most Americans”? I eat about 6 times a day. I also train regularly. We can make up some arbitrary frequency at which to eat a quarter pounder. However, the truth is still that you can’t make a statement that eating one every few days makes anyone unhealthy. A person’s LIFESTYLE is what makes them unhealthy. We have already discussed the bodybuilder/personal trainer who ate Mc Donald’s while getting into contest shape. He did it just to show that “fast food” isn’t what determines your body composition and health but rather overall calories and your use of them.
This has been posted before. However, here it is again:
http://www.truthinfitness.org/projects/mcDonalds/journal.html
Whoa, I think I’m detecting some “fundamentalism” on the healthy thing.
If I go eat a chocolate bar, which doesn’t happen often, I’m not magically converted from a fairly athletic person who goes to the gym everyday, with good blood markers, into an unhealthy person just because of the macronutrient profile.
Someone isn’t unhealthy because they prefer whole milk to skim milk, or vice versa.
Over time, if you make a lot of poor choices and don’t get appropriate nutrition, you could become unhealthy, if the body has stresses that over time it can’t cope with.
Generally, it’s not like, hey, I drank a pop, I think I stomach ulcers now. Just like in the random acts area, hey, I like to drink sometimes, maybe smoke a cigar and possibly eat shitty food once in a while.
As far as any test my doctor has ever given me, I’m not unhealthy either. Maybe if I stressed about eating so much I wouldn’t be healthy…
[quote]vroom wrote:
Whoa, I think I’m detecting some “fundamentalism” on the healthy thing.
If I go eat a chocolate bar, which doesn’t happen often, I’m not magically converted from a fairly athletic person who goes to the gym everyday, with good blood markers, into an unhealthy person just because of the macronutrient profile.
Someone isn’t unhealthy because they prefer whole milk to skim milk, or vice versa.
Over time, if you make a lot of poor choices and don’t get appropriate nutrition, you could become unhealthy, if the body has stresses that over time it can’t cope with.
Generally, it’s not like, hey, I drank a pop, I think I stomach ulcers now. Just like in the random acts area, hey, I like to drink sometimes, maybe smoke a cigar and possibly eat shitty food once in a while.
As far as any test my doctor has ever given me, I’m not unhealthy either. Maybe if I stressed about eating so much I wouldn’t be healthy…[/quote]
I think it is mostly younger guys, especially those not long out of high school, and newbies. Everything is still either “all good” or “all bad”. Gray areas don’t exist to them. This is why I guess many of them are shocked to see Ronnie Coleman eat a pizza or Phil Heath state that he just ate two quarter pounders. This is why telling some of them to bulk up leads to them thinking we mean gain nothing but body fat.
Some people just need to learn to come back to the middle.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
I remember hearing some time in the past that McDonald’s is the world’s largest purchaser of beef hearts…urban legend, or are you eating heart burger?[/quote]
I used to work at a meat processing plant where they mixed hearts and some other part of cow to make ground beef.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
vroom wrote:
Whoa, I think I’m detecting some “fundamentalism” on the healthy thing.
Some people just need to learn to come back to the middle.[/quote]
Excellent points guys.
Vroom, I think that some obese beginners are actually better off becomming a nutritional “fundamentalist”. I helps them stay motivated to stay on track. Eventually, they’ll come around to the middle-ground that Prof spoke of. But, at least initially, if feel it helps some reach their immediate goals.
Also, I came from the opposite end of the spectrum; skinny-as-fuck. I stuck to the whole clean bulking think for a long time. Sure I got results, but very slowly. After contunually reading posts from Profx, et al. I finually sall the light of true “bulking”.
Now, I usually eat clean up to about 5,000 cals. Anything over that comes from whatever, wherever. This strategy has helped immesly. I just had an Arby’s open up down the street from me that’ll be a big help this next fall. 
When did I say that you can’t get into shape by eating quarter pounders?
Sure,you can diet on smoking and diet cokes.
Does that mean smoking and drinking nothing but diet coke is healthy?
Does that mean they need to make commercials denoting the life style?
No.
You seem to miss my point.
You can get in contest shape starving yourself or using dope/steroids,etc.
In the end it does not make it healthy.
So,some body builder got into contest shape by eating fast food.
Not everyone can.
Your overall calores is NOT the main and only factor when it comes to good health.
I was a skinny kid who ate nothing but fast food.Sure,I was skinny,but I also had asthma,bad acne,was weak,and had acid reflux.
When I started living a healthier life style I made a goal to cure my asthma,and I did.
In no way can you tell me that I can be healthy and eat fast food on a regular basis.
Your,or some body builder who was probably paid by the fast food company it’s self to lose weight off of their diet,experiences don’t determine what works for others.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
By “every few Days” do you mean two times a week,or four times a week?
I believe eating it for months and weeks on end like most Americans do will.
What,people are now considered healthy just because they have six packs?
Who on this site is eating like “most Americans”? I eat about 6 times a day. I also train regularly. We can make up some arbitrary frequency at which to eat a quarter pounder. However, the truth is still that you can’t make a statement that eating one every few days makes anyone unhealthy. A person’s LIFESTYLE is what makes them unhealthy. We have already discussed the bodybuilder/personal trainer who ate Mc Donald’s while getting into contest shape. He did it just to show that “fast food” isn’t what determines your body composition and health but rather overall calories and your use of them.[/quote]
[quote]Soldierslim wrote:
Professor X wrote:
vroom wrote:
Whoa, I think I’m detecting some “fundamentalism” on the healthy thing.
Some people just need to learn to come back to the middle.
Excellent points guys.
Vroom, I think that some obese beginners are actually better off becomming a nutritional “fundamentalist”. I helps them stay motivated to stay on track. Eventually, they’ll come around to the middle-ground that Prof spoke of. But, at least initially, if feel it helps some reach their immediate goals.
Also, I came from the opposite end of the spectrum; skinny-as-fuck. I stuck to the whole clean bulking think for a long time. Sure I got results, but very slowly. After contunually reading posts from Profx, et al. I finually sall the light of true “bulking”.
Now, I usually eat clean up to about 5,000 cals. Anything over that comes from whatever, wherever. This strategy has helped immesly. I just had an Arby’s open up down the street from me that’ll be a big help this next fall. :)[/quote]
Your approach is exactly what most are talking about when they recoomend that someone bulks up. It is not a recommendation to eat nothing but pure junk but a means to an end.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
I was a skinny kid who ate nothing but fast food.[/quote]
What is wrong with you? Seriously. Do you have an illness? Who wrote that anyone should eat “nothing but fast food”?
[quote]
Sure,I was skinny,but I also had asthma,bad acne,was weak,and had acid reflux.
When I started living a healthier life style I made a goal to cure my asthma,and I did.
In no way can you tell me that I can be healthy and eat fast food on a regular basis.[/quote]
Did someone write “eat fast food on a regular basis” or did someone write that they eat a quarter pounder every few days?
Which was it?
You are crazy. You are crazy because you can’t see the difference between an extreme stance and one of moderation. I would be very interested in your overall progress.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
I was a skinny kid who ate nothing but fast food.
What is wrong with you? Seriously. Do you have an illness? Who wrote that anyone should eat “nothing but fast food”?
Sure,I was skinny,but I also had asthma,bad acne,was weak,and had acid reflux.
When I started living a healthier life style I made a goal to cure my asthma,and I did.
In no way can you tell me that I can be healthy and eat fast food on a regular basis.
Did someone write “eat fast food on a regular basis” or did someone write that they eat a quarter pounder every few days?
Which was it?
You are crazy. You are crazy because you can’t see the difference between an extreme stance and one of moderation. I would be very interested in your overall progress.[/quote]
Yes.Someone did write that they were eating fast food every few days(which is probably 3-5 times a week).
How is that moderation?
Eating quater pounders every few days is pretty much a regular basis.
You’d be interestined in my overall progress?
What,now you’re questioning my workout/life style because I don’t eat fast food?
I eat clean,and I’m pretty strong.I don’t know about you,but thats all that matters to me.
Apes in the wild can bench over two thousand pounds.I guess they must be gorging on taco bell and burger king every night.
Fuck rotten ronny, Junior Bacon Cheese burgers are the shit.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Yes.Someone did write that they were eating fast food every few days(which is probably 3-5 times a week).
How is that moderation?[/quote]
Are you being serious? If I eat 6-8 times a day, taking in over 5-6,000cals a day, stopping to eat a hamburger 3 times a week is NOT moderation? WTF? Let’s see…that up to 56 meals a week and you think that if THREE of those meals happen to be hamburgers that this is NOT moderation? What is wrong with you?
[quote]
What,now you’re questioning my workout/life style because I don’t eat fast food?
I eat clean,and I’m pretty strong.I don’t know about you,but thats all that matters to me.
Apes in the wild can bench over two thousand pounds.I guess they must be gorging on taco bell and burger king every night.[/quote]
Uh, yes, I am questioning your progress because most people who act like you make the LEAST physical progress because they can’t stop thinking in extremes.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Apes in the wild can bench over two thousand pounds.[/quote]
Is that a true fact. In every movie when gorillas are present I can’t help but notice their gigantic chests. Sounds kinda weird I know but I’ve always wondered what a silverback could total in a meet.
exactly…if im eating about every hour and trying for 4000-4500cals a day during a bulk…do you think it really makes a difference to eat mcdickheads once every few days…as long as im in that calorie range my body is basically going to treat it like the day before where i ate very clean but same calories.
Our bodies are that sensitive…if they were we would lose like a lb of muscle for everyday we skipped the gym…or a meal. If you are training very hard…like 6 days a week for an 1-2 hours a day like i do and many others do on this site…i doubt fast food every few days or even everyday as long as its in the same range of calories will really make a difference in body comp.
That being said…i really dont know anything about fast food effecting overall health…i doubt taco bell, wendys and mcdonalds is good for you everyday…but then again for some people i truly dont think its a bad idea to incooperate into an 80% clean bulk.