McDonalds Beat Down

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Nowhere did I read the victim was a pedophile.
And you’d seriously risk going to jail because you killed an individual who was confused about his/her gender? Wow.
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There is no such thing as confusion about gender. You are what you are. The fact that you would even suggest that is logical shows how off base you are.
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Really? That sounds like something someone would say about gays having a choice to not be gay.[/quote]

no I am saying it is a mental disorder like be a schizophrenic. note the dog analogy.

I was not brought up in the blindness of this liberal progressive state, I have a strong behavioral and neurology background and have seen the real research and not what gets published in order to pacify the quote on quote scientific community. It is just as political as politics itself and funded by lobbyist just as much.

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Sounds like YOU’RE the one experiencing quite of bit of confusion.
Too many punches to the head?[/quote]

This thread is just one gigantic reason to stick with the Paleo / Primal diet.

You won’t ever find yourself in such a place, dealing with such a situation.

You will only travel to places of complete utopia.

My logic is undeniable.

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Nowhere did I read the victim was a pedophile.
And you’d seriously risk going to jail because you killed an individual who was confused about his/her gender? Wow.
[/quote]

There is no such thing as confusion about gender. You are what you are. The fact that you would even suggest that is logical shows how off base you are.
[/quote]

Really? That sounds like something someone would say about gays having a choice to not be gay.[/quote]

no I am saying it is a mental disorder like be a schizophrenic. note the dog analogy.

I was not brought up in the blindness of this liberal progressive state, I have a strong behavioral and neurology background and have seen the real research and not what gets published in order to pacify the quote on quote scientific community. It is just as political as politics itself and funded by lobbyist just as much.

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Sounds like YOU’RE the one experiencing quite of bit of confusion.
Too many punches to the head?[/quote]

This thread is just one gigantic reason to stick with the Paleo / Primal diet.

You won’t ever find yourself in such a place, dealing with such a situation.

You will only travel to places of complete utopia.

My logic is undeniable.[/quote]

Easy there, Stay Puft.

I think a lot of people here have never been in the position of watching a real fight happen. I’m kind of surprised.

There’s a lot of shit that factors into a decision to step in. Where are you? How comfortable are you at the place? Do you know people there? Is it a place you frequent all the time? How many are involved? What’s going on?

I stepped in on a couple fights that I had no part in at a small local bar that I used to go to every night. I knew the bartender, there weren’t any bouncers, and if me and a couple buddies hadn’t stopped it- I’m not saying jump in, I mean simply STOP it- no one was going to.

If I’m walking by an alleyway and I see a stomping going on, I’m calling the cops and moving along. I am not getting stomped trying to “protect” someone that I don’t know- and if there’s more than one guy, I’m probably going to lose, so fuck that.

If I see two guys just banging out in a parking lot, I’d probably call the cops. Although if it’s one on one, maybe something happens, maybe I don’t want anyone to ever know I was there or saw anything.

The fact is, if you get in the middle of a fight you got no part in, it’s as likely that they’re going to turn on you as it is you’re going to “help” anything.

I also don’t like police and I don’t like talking to police, so generally I’m going to get out of that situation, whatever it is, as soon as I can.

And if you jump into this McDonald’s fight you saw here, and you push one of these little ghetto cunts and she slams her head on a corner and dies, GUESS WHO’S UP FOR MANSLAUGHTER? You are.

So honestly I don’t know what I would do, especially if I was just a customer there. If I worked there, I’d feel obligated to stop the violence, but if I’m just getting lunch, it truly depends on the situation…

If one of them laid a hand on me when I was trying to break it up, I would lay them out- and you know how great it looks when a 26 year old boxer punches a 14 year old girl straight in the face. Watch how quick that public opinion can turn against you.

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Nowhere did I read the victim was a pedophile.
And you’d seriously risk going to jail because you killed an individual who was confused about his/her gender? Wow.
[/quote]

There is no such thing as confusion about gender. You are what you are. The fact that you would even suggest that is logical shows how off base you are.
[/quote]

Really? That sounds like something someone would say about gays having a choice to not be gay.[/quote]

no I am saying it is a mental disorder like be a schizophrenic. note the dog analogy.

I was not brought up in the blindness of this liberal progressive state, I have a strong behavioral and neurology background and have seen the real research and not what gets published in order to pacify the quote on quote scientific community. It is just as political as politics itself and funded by lobbyist just as much.

[/quote]

Sounds like YOU’RE the one experiencing quite of bit of confusion.
Too many punches to the head?[/quote]

This thread is just one gigantic reason to stick with the Paleo / Primal diet.

You won’t ever find yourself in such a place, dealing with such a situation.

You will only travel to places of complete utopia.

My logic is undeniable.[/quote]

Easy there, Stay Puft.[/quote]

Hahaha BOOM. Now I seriously need to get Iron Dwarf to whip something up.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I think a lot of people here have never been in the position of watching a real fight happen. I’m kind of surprised.

There’s a lot of shit that factors into a decision to step in. Where are you? How comfortable are you at the place? Do you know people there? Is it a place you frequent all the time? How many are involved? What’s going on?

I stepped in on a couple fights that I had no part in at a small local bar that I used to go to every night. I knew the bartender, there weren’t any bouncers, and if me and a couple buddies hadn’t stopped it- I’m not saying jump in, I mean simply STOP it- no one was going to.

If I’m walking by an alleyway and I see a stomping going on, I’m calling the cops and moving along. I am not getting stomped trying to “protect” someone that I don’t know- and if there’s more than one guy, I’m probably going to lose, so fuck that.

If I see two guys just banging out in a parking lot, I’d probably call the cops. Although if it’s one on one, maybe something happens, maybe I don’t want anyone to ever know I was there or saw anything.

The fact is, if you get in the middle of a fight you got no part in, it’s as likely that they’re going to turn on you as it is you’re going to “help” anything.

I also don’t like police and I don’t like talking to police, so generally I’m going to get out of that situation, whatever it is, as soon as I can.

And if you jump into this McDonald’s fight you saw here, and you push one of these little ghetto cunts and she slams her head on a corner and dies, GUESS WHO’S UP FOR MANSLAUGHTER? You are.

So honestly I don’t know what I would do, especially if I was just a customer there. If I worked there, I’d feel obligated to stop the violence, but if I’m just getting lunch, it truly depends on the situation…

If one of them laid a hand on me when I was trying to break it up, I would lay them out- and you know how great it looks when a 26 year old boxer punches a 14 year old girl straight in the face. Watch how quick that public opinion can turn against you.[/quote]

Well said. It’s a shitty world out there. That’s why I carry a gun.

Fucking savages. Only beasts would stomp a defenseless person like that.

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
Before this turns into a “I hate negroes”-fest lets add to the overall picture that it was a transvestite creepin’ in the girls’ bath rooms (hence the fake hair/wig) that prompted this violent beat down.[/quote]

I grew up around girls like this and let me tell you, neither one of them (yes even the 14 y/o, the so-called “child”) would be shocked and appalled at the sight of one more penis. I’m sure they’ve seen many penises in their 14 and 18 years. They dont seem like the easily shocked type.

I think it was because she was trying to talk to the man of one of the girls and that caused it. Trust me, thats the most likely scenario.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I have a story to tell about those who would not jump in and help because they think of themselves and what they have to lose first.

Back in, I believe it was 2005, I went up to Seattle with a bunch of my family to visit my cousins who had just moved there from Houston. We’re all huge 49ers fans so we went to a Niners/Seahawks game. It was a Sunday Night game in a howling wind and rain storm and the Niners at the time were only two games behind the Seahawks with three to play, and Alex Smith led the team down the field for the go-ahead TD late in the game. Except I didn’t see any of this.

My uncle, John, who had moved to Seattle, was sitting at the end of a long row of seats that we all were occupying. Three of my aunts, two of my uncles, my mother, my father, my grandmother, two of my cousins and myself. My dad and I were the only ones sober. John starts egging on these fans in front of him, since the Niners were winning. He touched one of them and the guy turned around and said “you touch me again and I’m gonna beat the shit out of you.” My uncle played Div I college football as an OL, so he’s pretty big. Well, he touches the guy again and the guy turns around and starts bashing my uncle in the face. His buddies jump in (keep in mind, my 75 y/o grandmother is sitting right next to him and my other uncle, Ken, is next to her) and within a second or two it’s three on one and my uncle isn’t even fighting back.

Well, Ken didn’t do shit while John is getting pummeled, so my dad and I both jumped over everyone and took on all three of these guys ourselves. I broke my hand and my dad busted up his shin, but other than that we came out on top. My dad surprised the shit out of me with his lightning-quick reflexes and I was surprised, but proud, when he literally knocked this guy’s teeth down his throat while his buddy was trying to rear-naked choke my dad, which didn’t work out since my dad just hip-tossed him down the aisle. My other uncle was at the other end of the aisle and by the time he fought his way past Seahawks fans who were trying to keep from joining in the fray, it was over and everyone was in handcuffs.

None of us ended up getting arrested aside from the Seahawks fans, especially since the cops realized right away that we were the sober ones and were simply trying to protect our uncle and also the women sitting next to him, my grandmother especially.

The point of the story is this: ever since then, everyone loves talking about the “football game incident” as we call it. Except that no one says shit around my my uncle Ken or his wife, my aunt Melissa. For the record I am not blood-related to Ken. You see, in retrospect it was an exciting time for everyone since none of us were arrested and my uncle just got his face beat up a little. Hell, as scared shitless as my grandmother was at the time, she loves talking about it the most and my dad and I both love hearing her exaggerate our heroic actions. But when it comes to Ken, no one says anything, and there has always been this weird dynamic whenever we all watch a Niners/Seahawks game together.

You see, my uncle told me and my dad, separately, that he didn’t do anything because he felt he had too much to lose. I assume he must have said something along these lines to my other uncle and perhaps my aunts and grandmother as well. I don’t talk about it with anyone else other than my dad, but the two of us have both lost ALL respect for Ken since then. You see, my dad and I also have a lot to lose, especially my dad. But in situations like that, there are those who instinctively act to protect someone in danger like that, especially when it’s family, and there are those who think of themselves first. I suppose what my dad and I really heard when Ken gave his explanation is this: “I care more about myself than others and when someone is in trouble, I automatically think of how helping them might hurt me.” And my uncle certainly has a lot to lose as well. But when the shit goes down, there are those who try to help and those who don’t. To me, those who don’t just use the whole “too much to lose” argument as a convenient fallback to excuse their cowardice. I think everyone in my family still likes Ken and all that, but none of us have any respect for him as a man anymore. Not that it’s manly to get into fights at football games, it’s just that the image of my uncle covering himself up while my grandmother is flipping out, my uncle is getting fucking annihilated and my dad and I are taking on three guys all our size or bigger at once, has forever eliminated the possibility that either myself or my dad can count on Ken for anything at all.[/quote]

I hate to be the voice of dissent but, you were defending your uncle and 75 y/o grandma. Those Mcdonalds employees had no responsibility towards defending that transsexual. If I were in that resturaunt, I might have just stepped out of the way. I’m one of those ones who tend to mind my own business. If some old person was getting beat down, I may get involved. Other then that, no way.

If I were an employee and McDonalds fired me for not getting involved in a violent incident, I would sue for wrongful termination. Being a referee/zookeeper/gladiator isn’t a part of my job description. If McDonalds wants someone to break up fights and keep order, they can hire some security guards.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I think a lot of people here have never been in the position of watching a real fight happen. I’m kind of surprised.

There’s a lot of shit that factors into a decision to step in. Where are you? How comfortable are you at the place? Do you know people there? Is it a place you frequent all the time? How many are involved? What’s going on?

I stepped in on a couple fights that I had no part in at a small local bar that I used to go to every night. I knew the bartender, there weren’t any bouncers, and if me and a couple buddies hadn’t stopped it- I’m not saying jump in, I mean simply STOP it- no one was going to.

If I’m walking by an alleyway and I see a stomping going on, I’m calling the cops and moving along. I am not getting stomped trying to “protect” someone that I don’t know- and if there’s more than one guy, I’m probably going to lose, so fuck that.

If I see two guys just banging out in a parking lot, I’d probably call the cops. Although if it’s one on one, maybe something happens, maybe I don’t want anyone to ever know I was there or saw anything.

The fact is, if you get in the middle of a fight you got no part in, it’s as likely that they’re going to turn on you as it is you’re going to “help” anything.

I also don’t like police and I don’t like talking to police, so generally I’m going to get out of that situation, whatever it is, as soon as I can.

And if you jump into this McDonald’s fight you saw here, and you push one of these little ghetto cunts and she slams her head on a corner and dies, GUESS WHO’S UP FOR MANSLAUGHTER? You are.

So honestly I don’t know what I would do, especially if I was just a customer there. If I worked there, I’d feel obligated to stop the violence, but if I’m just getting lunch, it truly depends on the situation…

If one of them laid a hand on me when I was trying to break it up, I would lay them out- and you know how great it looks when a 26 year old boxer punches a 14 year old girl straight in the face. Watch how quick that public opinion can turn against you.[/quote]

This.

[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
Before this turns into a “I hate negroes”-fest lets add to the overall picture that it was a transvestite creepin’ in the girls’ bath rooms (hence the fake hair/wig) that prompted this violent beat down.[/quote]

I grew up around girls like this and let me tell you, neither one of them (yes even the 14 y/o, the so-called “child”) would be shocked and appalled at the sight of one more penis. I’m sure they’ve seen many penises in their 14 and 18 years. They dont seem like the easily shocked type.

I think it was because she was trying to talk to the man of one of the girls and that caused it. Trust me, thats the most likely scenario.[/quote]

This.

Personally, I would not have stepped in to stop the fight. The tranny probably did do something to offend the girls. It’s their problems, so they should solve it themselves. Ghetto bitches aren’t who you’d want to mess with. The employers should have called the cops and other customers should just get the fuck out of there. I’ve lived in that area long enough to know that it’s best to always avoid shit when it happens.