Well, I did not see that coming.
what a bitch move
I’m so damn disappointed with this fight.
I feel as though Ortiz got caught up in the moment with that headbutt. It didn’t look like he MEANT to do it and apologized accordingly…
Mayweather didn’t do anything illegal but those were cheap shots no doubt. Very unsportsmanlike
[quote]rundymc wrote:
Oh Floyd.
That was completely unnecessary. He was owning Victor aside from one headbutt.
Also, I don’t think Cortez said box. I’m not that familiar with boxing technicalities. Is that reason for a DQ?[/quote]
I take it back. Apparently Cortez said “Let’s go!” and was calling time in when Floyd went for those punches.
I’m still calling them sucker punches, lol.
LOL this is why people keep saying boxing is dead.
Dana White is smiling right now.
i can’t believe some of you are defending that low life maywheather…that was pathetic
Bizzaro. And pretty classless by Floyd.
Please God let there not be a rematch. Let’s just have Pac-May and we can all go to bed.
Protect YOURSELF at all times. In the end this will only raise Money- May’s bank and status with the promoters. Because now this will have people wanting to see him beat all the more and Mayweather Loves playing the bad guy.
Like Ali said as many pay to see me lose as those that want to see me win but they both can’t stop watching.
lol!
Paul Daley would be proud.
I’m even more interest in this fight right now, good way to sell a fight.
I was at a bar that had a whole lotta hood types in it last night, and after the fight I was hanging outside with one of the bouncers, a huge black man with long dreadlocks who kinda reminded me of Lennox Lewis.
His first thought on this fight?
“Floyd’s street cred just went through the roof with that…that was some real shit.”
And he’s fucking right.
Let’s get one thing straight - boxing is no gentleman’s game. It attracts the roughest, shadiest characters around, and the kind of guys willing to get up in the ring and do this for a living are guys that are, for the most part, street as hell.
You do a flying fucking headbutt into someone during a boxing match, a move that not only could knock someone out (the way Ortiz did it) but could cause a MASSIVE cut that could stop the fight, and you fucking well better be prepared to get fouled right back.
I’ve never seen anger flash across Floyd’s face like I did when he hit Ortiz after that, and rightly so.
This kid comes in, having fought a couple good fighters, saying he’s gonna whip you, and then he pulls a move like that? C’mon.
Was it kind of a dirty trick? Yea, I guess. But really, IT’S A FUCKING FIGHT. You want to kiss, do it after the fucking fight. You wanna complain to the ref, do it after the fucking fight. Arturo Gatti talked to the ref during their fight - Floyd hit him. Shane Mosley talked to the ref during their fight - Floyd hit him. Ortiz did the same shit, he just didn’t have the chin to take it.
Seriously, you get up in that ring, and the one thing they tell FROM THE START - Protect yourself at all times - especially after you just landed a huge ass cheap shot.
Seriously, fuck Ortiz.
And very honestly, the way that fight was going, Floyd was going to knock him out. Ortiz had some good flurries, but in all reality, Floyd was really starting to beat up on him with that lead right hand, and that left hook was beginning to follow it.
Fight woulda’ been over by the ninth anyway.
And, yes, Fuck Larry Merchant. I can’t stand him either, HBO should have fired that old drunk 20 years ago.
I’m with you Irish. I posted in the other thread, but I can’t be arsed to follow both, so I’ll stick to this one. Like Floyd says, touch gloves, and then it’s on. Ortiz fouled him deliberately and badly, and Floyd let him touch gloves and apologise, but after that it’s fight time, not cuddle time. ORtiz, if he was half the bad ass he says he is, would appreciate that and get down to fighting. Like I said in the other thread, I feel Ortiz took the easy way out anyway. I really felt that if he’d wanted to, he could have got up, gone to his corner, and come out for the next round strong and ready to get Floyd back for the cheap shots. I don’t think Floyd has one punch knockout power, and nothing from Ortiz’s reaction suggested he’d actually been hurt.
I got the feeling that Ortiz thought it was still the press room and they were joking around. I mean they both gave a head nod, brushed gloves and then Mayweather put his guard up. But for some reason Ortiz went in for a HUG???
What the Fck mannnn. This is the biggest fight for you ever, you just tried to headbutt a very unforgiving Boxer. You already did the sorry glove touch thing, back the fck up and fight NOT hug.
And yes Money-May is a dick but you knew that going in.
[quote]four60 wrote:
I got the feeling that Ortiz thought it was still the press room and they were joking around. I mean they both gave a head nod, brushed gloves and then Mayweather put his guard up. But for some reason Ortiz went in for a HUG???
What the Fck mannnn. This is the biggest fight for you ever, you just tried to headbutt a very unforgiving Boxer. You already did the sorry glove touch thing, back the fck up and fight NOT hug.
And yes Money-May is a dick but you knew that going in.[/quote]
Exactly.
Like I said - he ain’t Derek fuckin Jeter, and the sport that he’s in almost DEMANDS that he cannot be, because it can and will get you knocked out if you’re too forgiving or too trusting inside that ring, and it will leave you broke and drooling if you’re too forgiving and trusting outside of it.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
And, yes, Fuck Larry Merchant. I can’t stand him either, HBO should have fired that old drunk 20 years ago.[/quote]
Quoted for truth.
The whole post was great.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
ORtiz, if he was half the bad ass he says he is, would appreciate that and get down to fighting. Like I said in the other thread, I feel Ortiz took the easy way out anyway. I really felt that if he’d wanted to, he could have got up, gone to his corner, and come out for the next round strong and ready to get Floyd back for the cheap shots. I don’t think Floyd has one punch knockout power, and nothing from Ortiz’s reaction suggested he’d actually been hurt. [/quote]
I am going to go ahead and disagree with this. Ortiz was doing his best to win. The issue was that meant gambling on a foul. Punching was not going to get it done against Mayweather, because it requires LANDING. Irish’s post about “you best not miss” was prophecy. I know it was only the fourth round, but shit was SO not going Ortiz’s way that without condoning the foul I really do believe it was a “if you are going to do it, do it before you are to busted up to take advantage” kind of deal.
Problem was it was a ridiculous head butt. He did not hide it, and he did not try to follow up immediately. So the ref called him on it. It may have been Ortiz trying to get DQ’d or maybe he just was too obvious, but no good result for him.
Then Floyd hits him, maybe before Ortiz realized the fight was on or not (it was legal regardless) and he takes the next gambit, try to sell that he can’t continue. If it was considered a foul on Mayweather Ortiz wins. Evan if it was not he made what would have been his one sided execution into a ? mark, or a possible re-match. Floyd’s street cred goes up. Ortiz’s cred stays afloat.
Regards,
Robert A
On to the next one. Mayweather vs Pacquiao. Maybe Ortiz should take on Maidana in a rematch.
Robert - I agree.
A lot of people watching thought Ortiz was fighting a good fight, but I saw him starting to get dismantled pretty badly.
All of Ortiz’s blows were glancing, and even on the more solid ones, Floyd was moving his head away so they weren’t landing full force.
The ones Floyd was landing were HARD straight right hands. If you look at it compared to the Ricky Hatton or De La Hoya fight, it took Floyd five rounds before he really started to stick those and be able to follow them - against Ortiz, he was doing it in the third round, and it was only going to get worse.
Again… people who don’t know anything about boxing were watching a different fight than the one I was seeing. I was seeing a ninth round knockout in the making anyway.
I’m not sure we do disagree that much here Robert. At least, I don’t particularly disagree with anything you wrote.
I don’t doubt Ortiz was trying to win, up until Floyd knocked him down, that much can be seen from the blatent and repeated headbutting. But I think what Ortiz was really after was getting the fuck out of that ring. While they were both boxing, the quickest way was to try and win. Once Floyd hit him with a dubious shot, he saw another way out. Rather than sucking it up and getting back to the fight, he bitched out. It may have been a shrewd move, if he gets a rematch etc, but I think it is too early to make any kind of judgement on that. My immediate impression is that for the second time in his career, Ortiz quit rather than fight. With the shit he talked, and the way he came into the fight, I think he needed to front up and go out on his shield. At least that way he would have repaired his reputation to some extent after quitting against Maidana. I just think Ortiz has extremely questionable heart, and was looking to get out of that ring in any way he could.