Mayweather a Punk

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I posted this in the combat thread about this fight, and I’ll post it here too.

The people who said Floyd did something wrong DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING.

I was at a bar that had a whole lotta hood types in it last night, and after the fight I was hanging outside with one of the bouncers, a huge black man with long dreadlocks who kinda reminded me of Lennox Lewis.

His first thought on this fight?

“Floyd’s street cred just went through the roof with that…that was some real shit.”

And he’s fucking right.

Let’s get one thing straight - boxing is no gentleman’s game. It attracts the roughest, shadiest characters around, and the kind of guys willing to get up in the ring and do this for a living are guys that are, for the most part, street as hell.

You do a flying fucking headbutt into someone during a boxing match, a move that not only could knock someone out (the way Ortiz did it) but could cause a MASSIVE cut that could stop the fight, and you fucking well better be prepared to get fouled right back.

I’ve never seen anger flash across Floyd’s face like I did when he hit Ortiz after that, and rightly so.

This kid comes in, having fought a couple good fighters, saying he’s gonna whip you, and then he pulls a move like that? C’mon.

Was it kind of a dirty trick? Yea, I guess. But really, IT’S A FUCKING FIGHT. You want to kiss, do it after the fucking fight. You wanna complain to the ref, do it after the fucking fight. Arturo Gatti talked to the ref during their fight - Floyd hit him. Shane Mosley talked to the ref during their fight - Floyd hit him. Ortiz did the same shit, he just didn’t have the chin to take it.

Seriously, you get up in that ring, and the one thing they tell FROM THE START - Protect yourself at all times - especially after you just landed a huge ass cheap shot.

Seriously, fuck Ortiz.

And very honestly, the way that fight was going, Floyd was going to knock him out. Ortiz had some good flurries, but in all reality, Floyd was really starting to beat up on him with that lead right hand, and that left hook was beginning to follow it.

Fight woulda’ been over by the ninth anyway.

And, yes, Fuck Larry Merchant. I can’t stand him either, HBO should have fired that old drunk 20 years ago.[/quote]A bitch move is a bitch move, retaliation or not.

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Given:

[quote]grayman19 wrote:
Ortiz tried to headbutt Floyd multiple times over the fight. He was warned several times for it, and still continued to try it. [/quote]

And

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

You headbutt me like that repeatedly in a boxing match, then do a flying fuck spear into my face, [/quote]

Maybe dude deserved the cheap shot…

Fuck boxing anyway. MMA sucks so much less. :wink:

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
A bitch move is a bitch move, retaliation or not.
[/quote]

Please bro. Somebody throws at one of your guys in baseball, you throw at a batter the next inning. It’s an eye for an eye.

And besides that - THERE’S NO FUCKING HUGGING IN BOXING!

You touch gloves, and you go! You don’t try to hug. Mayweather CLEARLY had his guard up and was looking to fight immediately after touching gloves - Ortiz was the only one who wanted to hug.

He got what was coming

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
A bitch move is a bitch move, retaliation or not.
[/quote]

Please bro. Somebody throws at one of your guys in baseball, you throw at a batter the next inning. It’s an eye for an eye.

And besides that - THERE’S NO FUCKING HUGGING IN BOXING!

You touch gloves, and you go! You don’t try to hug. Mayweather CLEARLY had his guard up and was looking to fight immediately after touching gloves - Ortiz was the only one who wanted to hug.

He got what was coming
[/quote]You can justify his bitch move all you want, it’s still a bitch move.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
A bitch move is a bitch move, retaliation or not.
[/quote]

Please bro. Somebody throws at one of your guys in baseball, you throw at a batter the next inning. It’s an eye for an eye.

And besides that - THERE’S NO FUCKING HUGGING IN BOXING!

You touch gloves, and you go! You don’t try to hug. Mayweather CLEARLY had his guard up and was looking to fight immediately after touching gloves - Ortiz was the only one who wanted to hug.

He got what was coming
[/quote]
I thought I was the only one that seen that. They touched gloves nodded and May’s guard went up, but Ortiz went in for a HUG!

Oh Irish, “There’s No Hugging in Boxing” line should be on a T-shirt, good one.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

You can justify his bitch move all you want, it’s still a bitch move.
[/quote]

Bullshit.

This is one of those things that people who 1) don’t regularly watch boxing and 2) have never boxed themselves are going to jump on May about, even though they don’t know shit for shit about what they watching.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

You can justify his bitch move all you want, it’s still a bitch move.
[/quote]

Bullshit.

This is one of those things that people who 1) don’t regularly watch boxing and 2) have never boxed themselves are going to jump on May about, even though they don’t know shit for shit about what they watching.[/quote]
Using your baseball analogy, hitting a hitter with a pitch is a bitch move just like Mayweather pulled a bitch move.

Bitch moves are bitch moves any way you slice them.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I posted this in the combat thread about this fight, and I’ll post it here too.

The people who said Floyd did something wrong DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING.

I was at a bar that had a whole lotta hood types in it last night, and after the fight I was hanging outside with one of the bouncers, a huge black man with long dreadlocks who kinda reminded me of Lennox Lewis.

His first thought on this fight?

“Floyd’s street cred just went through the roof with that…that was some real shit.”

And he’s fucking right.

Let’s get one thing straight - boxing is no gentleman’s game. It attracts the roughest, shadiest characters around, and the kind of guys willing to get up in the ring and do this for a living are guys that are, for the most part, street as hell.

You do a flying fucking headbutt into someone during a boxing match, a move that not only could knock someone out (the way Ortiz did it) but could cause a MASSIVE cut that could stop the fight, and you fucking well better be prepared to get fouled right back.

I’ve never seen anger flash across Floyd’s face like I did when he hit Ortiz after that, and rightly so.

This kid comes in, having fought a couple good fighters, saying he’s gonna whip you, and then he pulls a move like that? C’mon.

Was it kind of a dirty trick? Yea, I guess. But really, IT’S A FUCKING FIGHT. You want to kiss, do it after the fucking fight. You wanna complain to the ref, do it after the fucking fight. Arturo Gatti talked to the ref during their fight - Floyd hit him. Shane Mosley talked to the ref during their fight - Floyd hit him. Ortiz did the same shit, he just didn’t have the chin to take it.

Seriously, you get up in that ring, and the one thing they tell FROM THE START - Protect yourself at all times - especially after you just landed a huge ass cheap shot.

Seriously, fuck Ortiz.

And very honestly, the way that fight was going, Floyd was going to knock him out. Ortiz had some good flurries, but in all reality, Floyd was really starting to beat up on him with that lead right hand, and that left hook was beginning to follow it.

Fight woulda’ been over by the ninth anyway.

And, yes, Fuck Larry Merchant. I can’t stand him either, HBO should have fired that old drunk 20 years ago.[/quote]

LOL

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

You can justify his bitch move all you want, it’s still a bitch move.
[/quote]

Bullshit.

This is one of those things that people who 1) don’t regularly watch boxing and 2) have never boxed themselves are going to jump on May about, even though they don’t know shit for shit about what they watching.[/quote]
Using your baseball analogy, hitting a hitter with a pitch is a bitch move just like Mayweather pulled a bitch move.

Bitch moves are bitch moves any way you slice them.[/quote]

You don’t understand the way sports work.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I didn’t watch the fight but I watched the “knockout”.

PURE PUNK MOVE

I don’t care what happened prior (head butt?). The dude was apologizing and in that situation, boxers usually ALWAYS touch gloves again before engaging. Floyd took advantage and did a bitch move.

In before some amateur boxing analyst cum Mayweather apologist comes along as says “protect yourself at all times”.

This was NOT a “protect yourself at all times” situation, although TECHNICALLY, in the ring, you always do.

STILL A BITCH MOVE. No longer a fan of Mayweather. Love his talent, BUT HE HAS NO CHARACTER. I’ll now root for PAC if his bitch ass ever decides to man-up and fight him instead of worrying about going out undefeated. [/quote]

FUCK THAT.

You headbutt me like that repeatedly in a boxing match, then do a flying fuck spear into my face, you’re lucky if knocking you out is all I’m going to do.

But no, you wanna hug it out.

Seriously, fuck Ortiz. [/quote]

You’re defending a sucker punch, not a foul. Big difference. But I guess you can’t see it. And yes, apparently you are the only one that knows anything about boxing. Hell, all we need to do is look at your avatar right?

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

You can justify his bitch move all you want, it’s still a bitch move.
[/quote]

Bullshit.

This is one of those things that people who 1) don’t regularly watch boxing and 2) have never boxed themselves are going to jump on May about, even though they don’t know shit for shit about what they watching.[/quote]
Using your baseball analogy, hitting a hitter with a pitch is a bitch move just like Mayweather pulled a bitch move.

Bitch moves are bitch moves any way you slice them.[/quote]

Curious, What would you call the headbutt

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
A bitch move is a bitch move, retaliation or not.
[/quote]

Please bro. Somebody throws at one of your guys in baseball, you throw at a batter the next inning. It’s an eye for an eye.

And besides that - THERE’S NO FUCKING HUGGING IN BOXING!

You touch gloves, and you go! You don’t try to hug. Mayweather CLEARLY had his guard up and was looking to fight immediately after touching gloves - Ortiz was the only one who wanted to hug.

He got what was coming
[/quote]

Analogy fail. More like throwing at a guy in the dugout when he isn’t looking. That would be more accurate.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

You can justify his bitch move all you want, it’s still a bitch move.
[/quote]

Bullshit.

This is one of those things that people who 1) don’t regularly watch boxing and 2) have never boxed themselves are going to jump on May about, even though they don’t know shit for shit about what they watching.[/quote]
Using your baseball analogy, hitting a hitter with a pitch is a bitch move just like Mayweather pulled a bitch move.

Bitch moves are bitch moves any way you slice them.[/quote]

You don’t understand the way sports work. [/quote]

Apparently now you’re the only one that competed in sports. Hmm. Emkay.

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[quote]four60 wrote:
While it was not a gentleman’s move it was not a surprise. The fight did not end well for me as a boxing fan. I wanted to see a in ring battle. But no matter how much you may not want to hear it hahaha YEAH
" Protect Yourself at all times".
The only person that I felt bad for after that fight was me be wise I wanted more.
Mayweather is on his way out Maybe MAYBE 3 more fights before he hangs it up and I don’t see Manny taking him out.[/quote]

Oh, i see manny doing quite a bit more damage than ortiz. Pacman is 10x the fighter ortiz is. pac never gets tired and is nonstop, powerful fast and very aggressive. thats the exact formula to beat a counter puncher who doesn’t throw that many punches. You have to overwhelm him.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

You can justify his bitch move all you want, it’s still a bitch move.
[/quote]

Bullshit.

This is one of those things that people who 1) don’t regularly watch boxing and 2) have never boxed themselves are going to jump on May about, even though they don’t know shit for shit about what they watching.[/quote]
Using your baseball analogy, hitting a hitter with a pitch is a bitch move just like Mayweather pulled a bitch move.

Bitch moves are bitch moves any way you slice them.[/quote]

You don’t understand the way sports work. [/quote] Haha, that is a ridiculous notion. A bitch move is a bitch move. This can not be denied.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

You can justify his bitch move all you want, it’s still a bitch move.
[/quote]

Bullshit.

This is one of those things that people who 1) don’t regularly watch boxing and 2) have never boxed themselves are going to jump on May about, even though they don’t know shit for shit about what they watching.[/quote]
Using your baseball analogy, hitting a hitter with a pitch is a bitch move just like Mayweather pulled a bitch move.

Bitch moves are bitch moves any way you slice them.[/quote]

Curious, What would you call the headbutt
[/quote]
A bitch move, resulting in my original post that Mayweather was no doubt pissed off but should have maintained professionalism.

I’m not excusing or ignoring Ortiz.

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Mayweather was professional, he touched gloves and continued the fight. Ortiz was naive and went for a hug, and got battered. It isn’t a tickling competition. Even in the amateurs, it would be suicide for a fighter to go for a cuddle having just touched gloves after a major foul. I’d expect anyone doing that at any level to get a smack in the mouth for their troubles. It was cheap by Mayweather, but professionals, particularly in the fight game, shouldn’t give other fighters opportunities like that.

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[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Mayweather was professional, he touched gloves and continued the fight. Ortiz was naive and went for a hug, and got battered. It isn’t a tickling competition. Even in the amateurs, it would be suicide for a fighter to go for a cuddle having just touched gloves after a major foul. I’d expect anyone doing that at any level to get a smack in the mouth for their troubles. It was cheap by Mayweather, but professionals, particularly in the fight game, shouldn’t give other fighters opportunities like that. [/quote]

Exactly right.

I learned in kindergarten that you NEVER give someone the opening to take a shot at you, cause they will.

How Ortiz has been fighting this long and is somehow in the dark about this is beyond me.

I am starting to agree with you that maybe he was looking for a way out of the fight and thought he could be DQ’d.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Mayweather was professional, he touched gloves and continued the fight. Ortiz was naive and went for a hug, and got battered. It isn’t a tickling competition. Even in the amateurs, it would be suicide for a fighter to go for a cuddle having just touched gloves after a major foul. I’d expect anyone doing that at any level to get a smack in the mouth for their troubles. It was cheap by Mayweather, but professionals, particularly in the fight game, shouldn’t give other fighters opportunities like that. [/quote]

Exactly right.

I learned in kindergarten that you NEVER give someone the opening to take a shot at you, cause they will.

How Ortiz has been fighting this long and is somehow in the dark about this is beyond me.

I am starting to agree with you that maybe he was looking for a way out of the fight and thought he could be DQ’d.[/quote]

First it was a cheap shot that you justified as equalizing Ortiz’s cheap shot and now he was acting in an above board manner?

Which is it? We are calling the cart the horse here.

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[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
It was cheap by Mayweather, [/quote]

QFT

Because I think this is the entire fucking point of the matter. You guys are busy justifying it and otherwise engaging in moral relativism, but at the end of the day, it WAS a cheap shot. But some of you missed that in your zeal to pontificate about the rules of boxing which we all fucking know about, and otherwise defend the little punk. He’s a punk.

And it says here first that if he ever gets in a career defining fight, he loses. He’ll fucking fold. He has no character. But we all know he won’t get in that fight…wouldn’t want to risk his pretty record.