Maw and Paw on Roids

Pharma
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I am not bullshitting you. This is absolutely true.

My mid-50s parents have requested that I find info on gear so that they can use.

Scratch that. My MOTHER asked me first, then my dad expressed interest after joining the discussion.

Now, these are not your average 9-to-5, sedentary, middle-agers. My father’s been a tradesman his entire life and my mother has been active as long as I can remember.

They’ve both been competitive cross-country skiiers and recreational whitewater kayakers for many years, and have always been the outdoor adventurer types.

Now, in THAT frame of reference, their request is more understandable. They’ve both expressed that they’re “feeling their age” and would like to know information on performance enhancement for athletes their age.

They’ve moved to a great retirement community on the West Coast with tons of outdoor activities available, but they’re finding themselves “too tired” to really enjoy things “like they used to”.

They didn’t teach this in college and I haven’t used myself, so I will be the first to admit I don’t know WTF I’m talking about when it comes to using gear.

From what I can gather from the free info online, I think I’d just put them both on Anavar for short cycles.

Mom: 5-10mg
Dad: 15-20mg

They don’t want to enter a regional master’s bodybuilding comp, they just want to be able to hike, bike, climb, canoe, kayak, and whatever else, without hurting for several days afterward.

Now, I’d assumed they’d only be interested in orals, but when I brought up injectables they were all for that as well.

I don’t know about you, but the thought of old mom and dad injecting each other with Deca in the master bedroom seriously fucks with my head. I’d rather have mom on the Anavar and dad on the same plus something like AndroGel.

This is seriously screwed up.

Any experience, info, links, or good books on the subject you can recommend would be very much appreciated!

HELP!

– ElbowStrike

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Have them see a doctor first, it’s likely your dad could go on HRT. I have no idea about your mom though.

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Yeah get some good old vit-t for your dad. Your dad and mom will like the kick in the libido dept as well.

Anavar is ok for females in small doses. For short term use. But If its energy get her some natural stuff. Like Biotest offers or something similar.

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Thanks all for the replies and the PM’s.

I forgot to mention that my mother has had hypothyroidism for the last 35+ years, used to take synthroid, but now takes “Thyroid” (dessicated thyroid gland from bovine/porcine sources) every morning.

I wouldn’t think so, but could this affect anything with regards to juicing?

Thanks again!

ElbowStrike

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Hmmm…I’m not sure what to say. They seem to be looking for long-term improvement. HRT is a viable for your option for your Dad like joburnet said. While anavar might provide a temporary boost for your dad and even might be appropriate for mom in a VERY low dose, I don’t think long-term use would likely be a good idea. It’s probably not what they’re looking.

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Nobody has suggested primobolan depot for the mom. Primo is not supposed to be virilizing, and there won’t be any liver issues.

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I also just want to give props to your parents. It’s not always easy to avoid being ignorant, especially for the general american public and media.

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primo can cause virilization in women

there is a thread on here about women and gear (search osteoporosis osteoarthritis women female anavar)…it goes over dose and type recos for females.

i agree with the TRT for dad. if his own test is low brining it up with doctor supervised test injections should give him much more energy and will be the safest way to go.

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another option is to add in a bit of HGH. something low like 2-4iu/d would be something to consider.

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This is all great feedback, I really appreciate it.

Are there any good books on this subject?

There are about a million pop-physiology books out there on “anti aging miracle drugs” and whatnot. 99.9% are crap and I have no idea which are good.

I’ve seen mixed reviews for “The Steroid Bible”, “Anabolic 200X”, “Steroid Review”, and any number of other titles that run on Amazon for about $100-$200.

What’s a good starting-out text?

Thanks again all,

ElbowStrike

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[quote]ElbowStrike wrote:
This is all great feedback, I really appreciate it.

Are there any good books on this subject?

There are about a million pop-physiology books out there on “anti aging miracle drugs” and whatnot. 99.9% are crap and I have no idea which are good.

I’ve seen mixed reviews for “The Steroid Bible”, “Anabolic 200X”, “Steroid Review”, and any number of other titles that run on Amazon for about $100-$200.

What’s a good starting-out text?

Thanks again all,

ElbowStrike[/quote]

Anabolics 200X will give you a good understanding of the compounds you’ll be dealing with. Unfortunately the cycles outlined in the book are pretty ridiculous. They’d certainly be laughed off of this forum.

As far as other titles, I don’t know what’s good, but you have basically the fountain of youth here at your fingertips. Whatever BBB has to say should be taken as gospel, and there are a lot more incredibly smart folks here that can point you in the right direction.

I wish you and your folks the best.

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I wouldn’t worry about the all the anti aging crap out there. a low dose of gear and some HGH will blow any age elixer out of the water.

have your dad talk to a good endocrinologist about Test Replacement Therapy (TRT)…this is really his best option because he will be getting pharmaceutically produced gear, likely have someone inject him who is qualified, and legit medical monitoring of what is happening in his body. I would think something like 150-200mg/w of test cyp once a week would be a likely start. andogel is not that great as most that have tried both will tell you the injections are superior. he may get a bit of arimidex if his estrogen levels start to climb too high but it likely won’t be needed unless he starts dreeping up to the 300mg/w mark. for the HGH start at 2iu EOD taken subq first thing in the morning right when he wakes up to get a feel for it and could bump that to every day or twice EOD (morning and post workout) if needed. most people on here are fans of EOD for HGH but they are bodybuilders taking large doses and have natural HGH that is still pretty high so they are in a different category. your pop will need to figure out what works best for him. He can add in a bit of var or something if he wants a little extra kick but the test should make him feel like a new man.

For your mom the same HGH protocol would work but the gear needs to be different so she doesn’t grow a granny beard. If you can find legit anavar that is a good start. she can cycle on and off in 6 week intervals if she is worried about negative health effects of orals but var taken at that low a dose is really not that bad…if she was taking a BB dose of around 100mg/d it would need to be cycled but if 5mg/d is all she is planning to use it is very mild on the system. it would be a good idea to talk to some of the girls that have posted about using gear (there aren’t many so you would need to search a bit) because they will be able to give you better insight.

Best of luck.

FG