You are veering back toward what seems to be your baseline, which is to substitute bluster and bullying for substantive comments when your opinions aren’t simply accepted as fact. If that’s the case, feel free to beat your chest and declare yourself the winner.
Because it involves a sexual act with a child. Children are unable to consent to sex.
The origin of their feeling of sexual attraction to children has no bearing on the immorality and illegality of the act.
BTW, and contrary to your assertion above: Per the DSM-V, pedophilia is a mental disorder.
Look no further. And Salon saw fit to post this vile trash.
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_pedophile_but_not_a_monster/
So was being gay until 1974. Then the DSM changed.
I would not count on the DSM remaining the way it is now.
From the link:
“DSM’s facile and self-serving attempt to medicalize human problems is an institutionalized insult to human dignity. The homosexual community has managed to liberate themselves from psychiatric oppression. But there are millions of people worldwide who are still being damaged, stigmatized, and disempowered by this pernicious system to this day.”
The DSM represents our best current understanding of the psychiatric medical literature. So far as psychiatric science is concerned, it is the gold standard. As our understanding of psychopathology has evolved, so has the DSM. In the unlikely event that future editions, reflecting the latest scientific understanding, re-classify transgenderism as a mental disorder, the substance of discussions such as this one will change dramatically. But until and unless that happens, transgenderism is not a mental disorder.
I was not trying to say transgenderism will be reclassified as a mental disorder.
My point is that many current mental disorders now will not be so in the future.
The quote I listed shows the trend that there will be no mental disorders in the future, just human problems.
For the comparison to be racist, origin of a disorder
doesn’t matter. In fact if we assume being TG is a genetic disorder, it makes the comparison sound even more racist. You are now comparing being black with having a genetic disorder. That doesn’t seem a little racist to you?
Being black is like having a delusional mental disorder? That isn’t racist?
Not if he is just using the same changing room and getting his jollies legally looking at young girls.
It is largely political too. Factually, TG is an abnormal mental delusion associated with with incredibly high rates of depression/suicide and many other problems in life. Whether that gets it in the DSM or not. No one would ever want their child to be transgender including the most open minded and unconditionally loving of parents. Would you? No. Why? Because it’s a really negative trait that can lead to huge issues in life.
If one were to say that being black IS a delusional mental disorder, I would say that is a racist statement. To use race as an example of an unchangeable quality and then compare that to another unchangeable quality does not necessitate racism in my experience; it’s more the utilization an analogy.
You will have to understand, my formal educational background is politics and philosophy, so that is how I am approaching this. I was curious if someone could explain more from a sociology perspective.
Connotation in a comparison matters. You are like a rapist.
Oh, I mean that because rapists just look like normal people and so do you.
As the saying goes: You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. By current professional medical standards, TG is not ‘factually an abnormal mental delusion.’
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No one would ever want their child to be transgender including the most open minded and unconditionally loving of parents. Would you? No. Why? Because it’s a really negative trait that can lead to huge issues in life.[/quote]
I’m not sure what your point is here. You are correct, being TG is not something a parent would wish upon their child, because it would likely make his/her life more difficult in a multitude of ways. By the same token, no parent would want their child to be gay, or extremely short, or strikingly unattractive. But that doesn’t make any of these traits ‘abnormal’ (in the pejorative sense in which that word is being used on this thread).
Exactly! This is what people need to understand.
I can say being white is akin to having schizophrenia, as I do nothis choose either. This is not a racist statement.
I am happy to have reached an understanding.
Believing you are a female when you are a male is a delusion. delusions are mental apparitions. It is a mental delusion. I really have to end the discussion if you would even acknowledge basic concrete facts.
But at least you admit being TG is similar to the disorder of dwarfism.
So long as you wouldn’t take offense to someone comparing you to a rapist.