Matt Damon on Sarah Palin

[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
Matt Damon did not in any way sway me to believe this. He just articulated it brilliantly.

Just take a step back from your normally narrow-minded and myopic republican viewpoints and admit that Sarah Palin being elected as VP stinks of “Disney movie.” She’s a hockey mom. SHE CAN’T CONDUCT FOREIGN or ECONOMIC or ANY OTHER AFFAIRS for that matter.

But no, the republicans staunchly support her and convince themselves otherwise. I really admire how well you all can lie to yourselves.

And as far as experience is concerned. I’d take the smartest guy at Harvard Law over a woman whose probably really good at bringing capri suns and brownies to her son’s hockey practice. But thats just me.

Look, we both want the same thing, which is whats best for AMERICA. Its not about party affiliation or winning an election, its about freaking AMERICA. Do whats best for AMERICA. [/quote]

You re going to be one pissed off, bitter little man in 50 some-odd days.

Wait - you already are. Gotta love the left-wing whacko oozing fear out of every pore right now.

You’re right. I am afraid. I am afraid for America at this moment. And I am afraid for every single person in this country, republican or democrat.

[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
You’re right. I am afraid. I am afraid for America at this moment. And I am afraid for every single person in this country, republican or democrat. [/quote]

You should be more afraid of an Obama administration.

[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
Matt Damon did not in any way sway me to believe this. He just articulated it brilliantly.

Just take a step back from your normally narrow-minded and myopic republican viewpoints and admit that Sarah Palin being elected as VP stinks of “Disney movie.” She’s a hockey mom. SHE CAN’T CONDUCT FOREIGN or ECONOMIC or ANY OTHER AFFAIRS for that matter.

But no, the republicans staunchly support her and convince themselves otherwise. I really admire how well you all can lie to yourselves.

And as far as experience is concerned. I’d take the smartest guy at Harvard Law over a woman whose probably really good at bringing capri suns and brownies to her son’s hockey practice. But thats just me.

Look, we both want the same thing, which is whats best for AMERICA. Its not about party affiliation or winning an election, its about freaking AMERICA. Do whats best for AMERICA. [/quote]

Jeez man … in all seriousness the worst possible (and I mean WORST possible) thing for America would be anyone from Harvard getting anywhere near the Presidency. To quote William F. Buckley “I’d rather be governed by the first 10 names in the NYC phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

A truly profound statement.

Not to be patronizing but have you looked at her actual resume?

City Council, Mayor, Governor. Helped to run a small business. Actually worked her way through college.

If you don’t like her conservatism … fine. But this whole attack on her stupidity has an amazing cognitive dissonance thing going on … from people who just 4 years ago nominated John Edwards for Veep … young pretty boy trial lawyer who bought himself a senate seat which he sat in for 2 years prior to running for the Presidency …

The Senate is the worst possible training ground for a President. Lots of pontificating with absolutely no responsibility or consequences for anything you say or do … but that’s another whole thread …

[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
Matt Damon did not in any way sway me to believe this. He just articulated it brilliantly. [/quote]

If you thought that was brilliant, you really need to get out.

How do you know, and why does none of this apply to Obama? You are glossing this over completely.

And I am not a Republican, never have been one, don’t plan on becoming one.[quote]

But no, the republicans staunchly support her and convince themselves otherwise. I really admire how well you all can lie to yourselves.

And as far as experience is concerned. I’d take the smartest guy at Harvard Law over a woman whose probably really good at bringing capri suns and brownies to her son’s hockey practice. But thats just me. [/quote]

And you don’t see how elitist this is? Anyway who is the “smartest” guy at Harvard Law anyway?

Fascinating, I have been shouting this from the rafters for decades, and now it is being used against me by somebody who doesn’t even understand what this means.

If you are actually attempting to do what’s best for America, then what is the whole purpose of your attack on Palin? You actually think that is better for America?

Is it better for America to call a person incapable just because she is just a “lowly mother”?

Throughout this, I have not attacked Obama, but I have been showing the utter hypocrisy involved in calling a Mayor turned Governor as inexperienced, yet not find the same flaw in Obama’s lackluster experience.

If you really want what is best for America, don’t do that.

Again, why are we discussing an actor’s views?

Who’s the idiot who started this thread anyway?

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Yes. Because Matt Damon did nothing but stand around and look pretty to get where he is today. Just like all those corporate fat cats who’ve never done a REAL days work in there lives.

I wouldn’t compare “corporate fat cats” to Matt Damon. First off - you can’t compare a real person against a group of fictional characters - especially when you evidently don’t know exactly what it is they do.

If we are going to compare Damon to someone - how about we use trust fund babies since they love the attention.[/quote]

Er… did you catch the sarcasm? Your reply doesn’t make it clear…

So if he had been a governor instead of a senator you wouldn’t have attacked him for inexperience? Bullshit.

Still, good point.

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Yes. Because Matt Damon did nothing but stand around and look pretty to get where he is today. Just like all those corporate fat cats who’ve never done a REAL days work in there lives.

I wouldn’t compare “corporate fat cats” to Matt Damon. First off - you can’t compare a real person against a group of fictional characters - especially when you evidently don’t know exactly what it is they do.

If we are going to compare Damon to someone - how about we use trust fund babies since they love the attention.

Er… did you catch the sarcasm? Your reply doesn’t make it clear…

However… how the hell can you say those things like they’re accomplishments and then go on to destroy Obama for being inexperienced? Makes little sense to me.

When was the last time you managed 15K employees? Been in charge of a $6 billion budget, or negotiate one of the largest pipeline construction contracts in history with a foreign government? DO you have any friends that have come close to that?

Obama has done none of those things, either. He’s never even owned a business before.

So if he had been a governor instead of a senator you wouldn’t have attacked him for inexperience? Bullshit.

Still, good point.
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He did nothing in the senate but get sworn in, and collect a paycheck. His committee has yet to convene since he was appointed chairman.

If he would do something - ANYTHING - he would probably not be getting hammered for his inexperience.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
<<< He did nothing in the senate but get sworn in, and collect a paycheck. His committee has yet to convene since he was appointed chairman.

If he would do something - ANYTHING - he would probably not be getting hammered for his inexperience.

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I actually think he’s better off having done nothing and getting hammered for inexperience than if he’d further exposed his ultra left marxist tendencies in the Senate by attempting anything senatorial.

Then again, I don’t know how much more exposed it would be. There’s plenty there now that isn’t being reported or is being endlessly spun…

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Yet another worthless left-wing hollywood actor thinking his opinion is worth a damn thing.

It cracks me up. Really.

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Hey! Lay off Jason Bourne! He lost his memory! Poor Jason, its all because of the evil United States! That’s it I’m moving to Cuba!

[quote]flyboy51v wrote:
DeterminedNate wrote:
Matt Damon did not in any way sway me to believe this. He just articulated it brilliantly.

Just take a step back from your normally narrow-minded and myopic republican viewpoints and admit that Sarah Palin being elected as VP stinks of “Disney movie.” She’s a hockey mom. SHE CAN’T CONDUCT FOREIGN or ECONOMIC or ANY OTHER AFFAIRS for that matter.

But no, the republicans staunchly support her and convince themselves otherwise. I really admire how well you all can lie to yourselves.

And as far as experience is concerned. I’d take the smartest guy at Harvard Law over a woman whose probably really good at bringing capri suns and brownies to her son’s hockey practice. But thats just me.

Look, we both want the same thing, which is whats best for AMERICA. Its not about party affiliation or winning an election, its about freaking AMERICA. Do whats best for AMERICA.

Jeez man … in all seriousness the worst possible (and I mean WORST possible) thing for America would be anyone from Harvard getting anywhere near the Presidency. To quote William F. Buckley “I’d rather be governed by the first 10 names in the NYC phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

A truly profound statement.

Not to be patronizing but have you looked at her actual resume?

City Council, Mayor, Governor. Helped to run a small business. Actually worked her way through college.

If you don’t like her conservatism … fine. But this whole attack on her stupidity has an amazing cognitive dissonance thing going on … from people who just 4 years ago nominated John Edwards for Veep … young pretty boy trial lawyer who bought himself a senate seat which he sat in for 2 years prior to running for the Presidency …
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I’m going to have to agree with rainjack and thunder on this one–John Edwards is an excellent counterexample to your attack on Palin’s VP candidacy based around experience.

He didn’t get anywhere near the amount of flak for his lack of any experience that you’re trying to put onto Palin. A lot of the reason is because he was left-leaning, IMHO.

If you’re not a conservative, that’s cool. I’ll disagree with you on a lot of things; however, you need to be honest and admit to her experience with energy/oil/economic stuff–negotiating major contracts with uber-conglomerates counts as real economic experience in my book. As well as managing a business. Those aren’t cookies she’s been baking up.

However, I will give you the foreign policy point. I agree; she’s not good at it and completely inexperienced. Hopefully she will learn quickly. But at the same time, Obama is not good with it either–he talks very eloquently but has zero serious experience, just like Palin.

He has no experience in the executive branch, he has about the same experience as John Edwards did in the Senate (which is to say, not much), and he has never managed a business, small or otherwise. His firsthand experience with economics is absolute zero.

Bottom line, the experience argument just doesn’t work–it can be thrown right back at you because your top of the ticket is just as inexperienced as Palin. The primary difference between the two is left-leaning politics and Ivy league college rather than a “regular” college.

What’s fascinating about this is, if Matt Damon was attacking Obama and talking about how dangerous and inexperienced he is. You would slobbering on his shoes and talking about what a brilliant individual he is.

[quote]RoadWarrior wrote:
What’s fascinating about this is, if Matt Damon was attacking Obama and talking about how dangerous and inexperienced he is. You would slobbering on his shoes and talking about what a brilliant individual he is.[/quote]

Really? The only reason people would be slobbering over that scenario is because their jaws would have hit the floor in disbelief at someone from the liberal hollywood “elite” actually backing someone to the right of Castro.

Ok, but has Ben Affleck weighed in on all this?

Why these people are accorded some sort of authoritative voice on the weighty issues of the day because they were in a movie is beyond me.

They are citizens and as such they have the right to vote and have opinions, but being able to act carries no weight beyond that.

The only reason the few that hold anything except ultra leftist whack job views catch my attention is because they ARE the exception and I respect their ability resist the marxist mob in hollywood. That still doesn’t mean I base anything I believe on what they say.

Wait the hell are you talking about? Edwards got LOADS of flak from the right for his lack of inexperience. The same amount Palin is getting now from the left, I’d say.

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Wait the hell are you talking about? Edwards got LOADS of flak from the right for his lack of inexperience. The same amount Palin is getting now from the left, I’d say.[/quote]

He caught more flack about being an ambulance chasing scumbag than he did about his lack of experience.

But, even if you are correct - it didn’t get an iota of the attention that Palin’s has.