Matt Damon on Sarah Palin

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PtrDR wrote:
Professor X wrote:
It is interesting how many here act like Bill Cosby speaks the truth whenever the discussion veers into black social issues…but then degrade any other performer if the opinions differ from their own.

Uh…maybe because Bill Cosby had something intelligible to say about societal and parental issues and in this interview with Damon, he stumbles along using words like “crazy…scary…terrifying…” etc and doesn’t seem to have anything that is worth listening to.

Come on Professor X…your better than this…maybe your just having an off day…

I’m sorry, but how is that a sign of an off day? If all entertainers are degraded when they give political opinions…why does it seem to ONLY happen when they disagree with the overflowing population of staunch conservatives on this board?

If some agree with Bill Cosby, then that makes the attempt to point out Damon’s entertainer status as a negative HYPOCRITICAL.

You needed this spelled out for you?

What’s got your panties all twisted about conservatives on this board? The fact that Opie is dropping like a rock? The fact that the conservatives are actually gaining ground on him? What is it?

Cosby never offered his opinion on a presidential candidate. He commented on what his take on the condition of black families. Being a black family man, and having built a lot of his fame from talking about his family. There are a lot of people who agreed with him.

Damon is an idiot. He is not speaking from experience - he is regurgitating democratic talking points.

Big difference. But what with your panties all wadded, and your blinders on, you aren’t going to have a real discussion about this.

Maybe you should go to the convenience store on your way home and pick up some Pamparin.

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I could care less about Damon or his opinion…much like I could care less about Bill Cosby’s opinion. That doesn’t erase the several discussions we have had in the past as if Bill Cosby speaks the truth if only the rest of us black folk would listen.

Do I really need to go find those threads?

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http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/world_news_war/bill_cosby_black_conservative

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I could care less about Damon or his opinion…much like I could care less about Bill Cosby’s opinion. That doesn’t erase the several discussions we have had in the past as if Bill Cosby speaks the truth if only the rest of us black folk would listen.

Do I really need to go find those threads?[/quote]

I don’t care if you listen to him or not. I didn’t post in that thread - but in looking through it - You seemed to have more to say on the issue than anyone else did.

Now this is a black thing? Last I checked, Damon is whiter than me.

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Gina Gershon doing a really good Palin impersonation.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/61410aa4ff
Can’t say I didn’t enjoy watching that!

Seems like Palin bashing is the new “black” in Hollywood. The left must be TERRIFIED of her if they are bringing out all these celebrities.

Because everyone knows that a celebrity’s political opinion is much more valuable than yours.

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[quote]Beowolf wrote:
No offense, but I don’t think a two year governor of Alaska’s opinion should matter either…[/quote]

What about the opinions of someone with 0 executive experience?

Darn, I can’t capitalize a “0”.

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Does anyone remember that video if Sean Combs where he rambles incoherently about McCain “bugging the fuck out” because he picked Palin? I can’t find it now.

Seems the rappers are getting on the bash Palin bandwagon too.

When is ludicrous going to do a song where he calls Palin a “cold bitch” or something?

Get it? Cold beause Alaska is… Ok. sorry.

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On content alone, regardless of who delivered it, that little diatribe was nt impressive at all.

If he wanted anything of substance to say, he should have researched the candidate he wants to endorse and made some points that would have cntributed to his chosen candidate.

As it stands, he just looks like an idiot with a camera trained on him taking potshots at someone he doesn’t like.

Bad Strategy.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
No offense, but I don’t think a two year governor of Alaska’s opinion should matter either…

But when she is nominated by a national party as their vice presidential candidate, her opinion does matter whether you think is should or not.

I mean, she’s no Matt Damon when it comes to managing billion dollar budgets and thousands of employees, or negotiating multi-billion dollar pipeline contracts with a foreign government, but she’s been put in a position where her opinions pretty much have to matter. [/quote]

Yes. Because Matt Damon did nothing but stand around and look pretty to get where he is today. Just like all those corporate fat cats who’ve never done a REAL days work in there lives.

Other than that, I pretty much agree. It does matter now, whether I want it to or not.

However… how the hell can you say those things like they’re accomplishments and then go on to destroy Obama for being inexperienced? Makes little sense to me.

For the record, I think they’re both inexperienced and I don’t think it matters much on either side.

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The thing that really bugs me (and someone already mentioned it) is when Americans let their opinions be swayed by someone JUST BECAUSE they are a movie star.

I would like to think that most people would not follow the logic of “Matt Damon. . . he was really smart in Good Will Hunting, so I should probably listen to him about Sarah Palin.” But alas, I know some people will. And they will vote.

I liked this article, which touched on the subject:

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell0900908.php3

I read this guy every once in a while. I don’t always agree with him. In fact, I think his characterization of the “young” in this article is wrong, but it does hit home when applied to the Liberal Hollywood Elite.

They have no experience in the real world. They are isolated. Other than the isolated cases like Ed McMahon, what celebrities have had to worry about their mortgages. Christ, which ones even HAVE mortgages???

Why on Earth should anyone listen to their opinions on politics? I would rather listen to the guy roofing my house, or my doctor, or anyone but Matt Freaking Damon.

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I felt that the “really bad Disney movie” analogy was remarkably insightful. He hit the nail on the head.

How can any of you take Palin seriously? I am totally floored by it.

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[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
I felt that the “really bad Disney movie” analogy was remarkably insightful. He hit the nail on the head.

How can any of you take Palin seriously? I am totally floored by it.[/quote]

Because on the opposite side is Obama.

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[quote]Beowolf wrote:

However… how the hell can you say those things like they’re accomplishments and then go on to destroy Obama for being inexperienced? Makes little sense to me.

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Because Obama’s first on his ticket, and Palin isn’t. Furthermore, Palin will accrue more foreign policy in 2 months as VP, than Obamessiah has.

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To be fair, Damon’s comments are hardly bad compared to what most of dumbass hollywood says.

And yeah, the Disney thing made me laugh, it’s pretty true.

He didn’t promote Obama, but cited that he knew nothing about Palin… which is pretty much his own fault. You can research anything.

I’m voting McCain, and I don’t really feel the need to lynch Damon for what he said, could’ve been much much worse.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Beowolf wrote:

No offense, but I don’t think a two year governor of Alaska’s opinion should matter either…

I’d like her to have more years under her belt, but I’ll take a two-year governor with her track record in those two years of vetoing spending than 20 years dithering.

If she had one day’s worth of wielding the veto pen against a gluttonous legislature grabbing the public monies on behalf of their pet influence peddlers, she is already more “qualified” than most everyone in Washington.
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This.

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[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Yes. Because Matt Damon did nothing but stand around and look pretty to get where he is today. Just like all those corporate fat cats who’ve never done a REAL days work in there lives.[/quote]

I wouldn’t compare “corporate fat cats” to Matt Damon. First off - you can’t compare a real person against a group of fictional characters - especially when you evidently don’t know exactly what it is they do.

If we are going to compare Damon to someone - how about we use trust fund babies since they love the attention.

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However… how the hell can you say those things like they’re accomplishments and then go on to destroy Obama for being inexperienced? Makes little sense to me.[/quote]

When was the last time you managed 15K employees? Been in charge of a $6 billion budget, or negotiate one of the largest pipeline construction contracts in history with a foreign government? DO you have any friends that have come close to that?

Obama has done none of those things, either. He’s never even owned a business before.

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What makes Damon so much more irritating than Cosby is that he’s so obviously a dilettante. Reading more about this today someone brought up that he endorsed Obama for President on Chris Mathews’ show in 2005 when Obama had barely a year as a Senator. Now he’s making fun of Palin as a Disney movie because she’s been Governor for two.

There’s only a few possibilities for his opinion and none of them are pretty.

  1. He’s a full blown bigot
    (against rural people, religious people or women … take your pick)

  2. He’s woefully ignorant of her actual record
    (pick up a paper dumbass before you shoot off your mouth)

  3. He’s so blindly partisan that he’d say Abraham Lincoln was unqualified if the Republicans nominated him.

I wonder if Matt had much to say about John Edwards in the last cycle? Hmmm how to explain that ambiguity …

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
tedro wrote:
I am surprised that he appears to know what an actuary is, but they are not generally referred to as “the actuary tables”.

He’s just reading from a script. I doubt he could even spell Opie’s middle name. [/quote]

Reading from a script…hmm… kinda like Palin.

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[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
I felt that the “really bad Disney movie” analogy was remarkably insightful. He hit the nail on the head.

How can any of you take Palin seriously? I am totally floored by it.[/quote]

And here is a perfect example of why this is so annoying. People who know absolutely nothing about politics hear their “idol” spout something like this, and assume it is true.

They don’t know Obama has even less experience, which is exactly what makes Damon’s comments so bad. If you interchange Obama and Palin, the statement works exactly the same, but he doesn’t even get that.

There are people out there that actually get their political information from the stars. It never dawns on them that being famous doesn’t mean they ain’t morons. (Yes it was intentional.)

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Matt Damon did not in any way sway me to believe this. He just articulated it brilliantly.

Just take a step back from your normally narrow-minded and myopic republican viewpoints and admit that Sarah Palin being elected as VP stinks of “Disney movie.” She’s a hockey mom. SHE CAN’T CONDUCT FOREIGN or ECONOMIC or ANY OTHER AFFAIRS for that matter.

But no, the republicans staunchly support her and convince themselves otherwise. I really admire how well you all can lie to yourselves.

And as far as experience is concerned. I’d take the smartest guy at Harvard Law over a woman whose probably really good at bringing capri suns and brownies to her son’s hockey practice. But thats just me.

Look, we both want the same thing, which is whats best for AMERICA. Its not about party affiliation or winning an election, its about freaking AMERICA. Do whats best for AMERICA.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
rainjack wrote:
tedro wrote:
I am surprised that he appears to know what an actuary is, but they are not generally referred to as “the actuary tables”.

He’s just reading from a script. I doubt he could even spell Opie’s middle name.

Reading from a script…hmm… kinda like Palin.[/quote]

Not even close. Unless you are suggesting that the last 14 years of her political career was scripted.