Master's Degrees

I’m 7 week away from finishing my Bachelor’s degree in Computer Information Systems, and I found that I have additional school funding to cover 29 months(!) more… I’m thinking this means at least a Master’s degree, but I haven’t put a lot of thought into which specialization I want to pursue. Thinking Software Development or Network Administration (DevOps future).

For those of you who’ve gone through with getting a Master’s…

Was it worth it?
What would you do differently if you could do it again?
What advice do you have for anyone considering pursuing this?

I’m not 100% sure which direction I want my career to go in, and I’m not sure that I will know until I start working in the field. Should I wait before selecting a Master’s program?

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Can your company or military pay for it?

If so, don’t even think about it just do it.

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My MS in engineering was totally worth it. After graduating I got a 2 level bump up after switching companies. It was also paid for by the company at a prestigious university.
Anything more than an MS in industry likely isn’t worth it. I am the same level now as a couple Ph.D holders who are a little older than I am.

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If it is paid for, then get the degree.

Yes. With the caveat that I don’t have a masters. I remember you mentioned wanting to go in to management, or at least be “in the club” a while back too, which would be the MBA route.

I’d narrow down your path and then focus your resources on it if it were me.

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I think there are 3 or 4 reasons that people go to college.

  1. Credential
  2. Education
  3. Networking
  4. Self Fulfillment

1: As far as credential, in a technical field in industry, I have found that a master’s degree is usually seen as the equivalent of a few years of work experience (somewhere between 1-5, with 2-3 being most common). It generally won’t open a door that was completely closed otherwise the way a bachelor’s degree does, but it does give you a bump in perceived seniority and generally associated compensation. In this regard, it’s important to consider the cost of getting the degree. I’d say that on average a master’s degree will get you an additional $10k a year or so. If you were able to work while getting it and didn’t pay much for tuition, that’s a good bump. But if you paid a bunch for tuition or delayed entering the workforce by a couple years (and maybe took loans in the process), the financial picture becomes less clear.

The above may not be true in certain academic or research positions where a Master’s or PHD is simply a base pre-req to get in the door. But that almost certainly doesn’t apply in your field (unless you want to become a professor). There are some companies that make a big deal of only hiring PHDs to some positions, but these are a rare exception.

2: For education, the reality is that many master’s degrees are more specialized. Unless you find a particular field interesting or have an opportunity to work in it right away, the specific knowledge you gain, might not help you that much in your professional life. Of course, it won’t be useless and demonstrates the ability to learn and navigate challenges in an area that is at least adjacent to the field in which you are working. This, I think, gets to the heart of why many employers view it more as additional work experience rather than something that fundamentally changes the types of jobs you are qualified for.

3: Networking value is fairly difficult to predict and will depend on you. Working in the right companies and industries can also create valuable networking opportunities. I don’t think this is enough reason on its own to go to college, but is a benefit to keep in mind when you do go.

4: Not much to say here. If this is why you are going, re-think your life.

So, overall, I’d say that you need to consider the costs of the master’s degree and consider how much of a pay bump it will actually bring you. I got a master’s degree going to night school while working full time in an engineering job. Thanks to a good scholarship and corporate tuition reimbursement, it was basically free. I think I paid a total of a few grand. It was a very rough 1.5 years since I was working full time and going to school full time. But since I paid very little for it and got a good bump in pay after (about $10k as I said), it paid off. If I had been either paying out of pocket or delaying entering the workforce to get the degree, the math would be much less favorable.

It sounds like you can get the degree without paying for it, which means it will probably be a good investment. However, you should also consider how much you could be making if you get a job instead of going to school (or if you can do both at the same time). If you can get a job making $80k, it might take a good while for a master’s degree to make up for 1-2 years of lost wages.

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I have my Master’s and I agree - if it’s being paid for - get it!

If I had to do it over, I’d diversify though. I have both a BS and MS in Nutrition and Food Science and I now wish I had gotten either an MBA or Psychology.

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I did a free one in Poly Sci, which I have never used, except to delay the future.

If I was going to do one in the general field you are talking about I’d do something on the Data Science front.

You’ll (continue to) learn to program and you’ll learn to deal with large quantities of data, which seems to be what everyone is looking for these days.

DevOps is a solid skill to have and will always be valuable but it’s still in the Wild West phase where things are changing every year, I’m not sure there is a 2 year degree that I would trust to be up on the latest and greatest.

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Most masters degrees are cash cows for unis

MBA from top uni is sometimes a good signal for management positions, but not required.
masters in stuff like data science are mostly scams.

If you’re going into management, having a paid for MBA might actually help, but not bc you’re actually going to learn anything very useful.

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These are fairly different career paths. I’d do some research to get a feel for what the actual jobs are like, and see if one is a better fit for you than the other.

This is a gross overgeneralization, because it changes company to company, but I would say dev ops is lower stress day-to-day, but regularly has times of high-stress emergencies. Software engineering is higher stress day to day, but fewer emergencies. The upward potential of both is pretty high, and there’s interesting problems in both spaces.

The main caveat with getting a Masters is going to be the first few years on the job. People will often expect you to know more or be more capable than you are at the time.

Unless you’re making a beeline into a management tract, the industry shares a lot with the trades. There’s a lot of things to learn on the job. A chemical engineer who then gets on-the-job training as a plumber is going to take a lot of flak for the first several years. But once you get the experience, the capabilities and upward potential is obviously much higher.

Either way, I’d make sure you have a solid foundation in algorithms. It feels like a bunch of esoteric and irrelevant BS, and it is, until it’s not. Being able to work through something and understand why it’s slow or not working, and also have the theoretical understanding to know how to fix it, is invaluable once you get further along.

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I can’t think of a time where it hasn’t been like that. I don’t think it’s a phase :wink:

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Absolutely, in my ~6.5 years in software it’s always been true. Maybe what I am saying is don’t get an advanced degree in a fluid field.

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This is pretty important, and most people underutilize it.

Once you have a base set of skills, you’ll learn on the job, so getting a masters in your same field is redundant. And especially in tech.

Getting one in a different field sets you apart. Doctors who had liberal arts degrees before going into medicine are often more successful because of a better bedside manner than pre-med students.

A buddy of mine got his undergrad in botany, his masters in spanish, and is living his best life in the rainforests.

My dad was an art major and credits that to his success in military intelligence. Like realizing Israel was going to do an air strike because one person was missing from a presentation.

Shoot, I’ve even heard people say that being a pastor should only be a second career so you have some kind of non-myopic experiance.

Cross-training makes you more valuable.

Speaking for myself,

This is why I got my masters. Might as well do something fun and learn with your free time. What else is there to do with my life? And sometimes doing something like that can pay off in surprising ways down the road. I know mine has.

Also, that whole post has some really good info.

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