Mast/Test P or Tren A/Test P?

Pharma / TRT
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For those of you who have read my recent posts,’ you
are aware that I am planning on running a cutting cycle. It was going to include Tren Acetate and Test Prop, being my third cycle. It would look like this:

Week 1-6: Tren A 75mg/EOD
Week 1-8: Test Prop 100mg/EOD

Week 9-12: Nova/Clomid

Recently I began reading about masteron; its properties for hardening and muscle gain in a short time caught my eye. If I were to run a cycle incorporating this compound it would look like this:

Week 1-6: Masteron Prop 100mg/EOD
Week 1-8: Test Prop 100mg/EOD

Week 9-12: Nova/Clomid

I’m just curious to hear the boards opinion on which cycle would be most effective and produce the best results for me. My goals
are to drop body fat, while gaining a some lean muscle and strength. All opinions welcome.

-twist

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any specific reason you couldnt run enanthate esters>? just a thought. You could make one or two compounds enan and go with all three test/tren/mast that sounds good to me

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Its all I can get my hands on

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[quote]tw1st wrote:
For those of you who have read my recent posts,’ you
are aware that I am planning on running a cutting cycle. It was going to include Tren Acetate and Test Prop, being my third cycle. It would look like this:

Week 1-6: Tren A 75mg/EOD
Week 1-8: Test Prop 100mg/EOD

Week 9-12: Nova/Clomid

Recently I began reading about masteron; its properties for hardening and muscle gain in a short time caught my eye. If I were to run a cycle incorporating this compound it would look like this:

Week 1-6: Masteron Prop 100mg/EOD
Week 1-8: Test Prop 100mg/EOD

Week 9-12: Nova/Clomid

I’m just curious to hear the boards opinion on which cycle would be most effective and produce the best results for me. My goals
are to drop body fat, while gaining a some lean muscle and strength. All opinions welcome.

-twist
[/quote]

So you like the idea of tren too, eh? I’ll tell ya it is one hell of a compound my friend. Yes it’s far more expensive than masteron, but it kicks a lot more ass as well.

However, 75mg EOD is not much a dose of tren at all bud… I’ve always recommended keeping your dose at 350mg/wk or above. On a short cycle like yours I would recommend something even higher, like in the 500s… I am currently in the middle of a short 8 weeker with high doses. If you’re going to use the tren, don’t use it for 6 weeks with that dose though, it will do little more than suppress you. My recommendation on that is to wait until week 2 or 3 and run it at 75mg/d for 2-3 weeks.

If you really like masteron, you should run it at the end of your cycle, not the beginning because of the exact reasons why you say it’s a good compound-- the hardening and anti-e effects.

If you wanted to, you could run both, but remember with a short cycle like this, your best bet is to keep your doses high… so test 600+, tren 450+, and masteron, well however you’re much comfortable with. I’ve seen people respond very differently to the same dose of mast, so just be careful and do what you know you can handle. Talk to ToneBone about mast… he’s running some right now at a pretty good sized dose.

World

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World,

First off thanks a lot for the quick informative response, as I’m ordering tomorrow ha. But my biggest issue with running tren every day was the injections. But after reading what you said I feel that I have a lot to gain from doing it the right way, with ample dosing.
So my new cycle will look like this:

Weeks 1-6: Tren A 75mg ED = 525mg/week
weeks 1-8: T Prop 100mg ED = 700mg/week

-twist

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If you can get all three, run all three at the same time.

I love masteron. I love prop. I love tren A.

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[quote]tw1st wrote:

Weeks 1-6: Tren A 75mg ED = 525mg/week
weeks 1-8: T Prop 100mg ED = 700mg/week

[/quote]

If I wanted to throw some t3 into this cycle
for added fat loss effect, where would be the
optimal place to put it in the cycle?

-tw1st

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[quote]tw1st wrote:
World,

First off thanks a lot for the quick informative response, as I’m ordering tomorrow ha. But my biggest issue with running tren every day was the injections. But after reading what you said I feel that I have a lot to gain from doing it the right way, with ample dosing.
So my new cycle will look like this:

Weeks 1-6: Tren A 75mg ED = 525mg/week
weeks 1-8: T Prop 100mg ED = 700mg/week

-twist

[/quote]

If you are running tren A why not run it along with the prop all the way until the end of week 8? I don’t see a need to cut it short.

I like the idea of test/tren/mast, that is my next cutting cycle + tbol.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
If you can get all three, run all three at the same time.

I love masteron. I love prop. I love tren A.

[/quote]

Rightly so.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
If you can get all three, run all three at the same time.

I love masteron. I love prop. I love tren A.

[/quote]

I will be running these three items very soon as well.

Plus, I was thinking about throwing EQ in the mix?

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[quote]rushman wrote:
rainjack wrote:
If you can get all three, run all three at the same time.

I love masteron. I love prop. I love tren A.

I will be running these three items very soon as well.

Plus, I was thinking about throwing EQ in the mix?[/quote]

Are you planning on cutting or bulking? If bulking I would say yes, but hunger becomes an issue for me with EQ in a cutting cycle.

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[quote]2thepain wrote:
rushman wrote:
rainjack wrote:
If you can get all three, run all three at the same time.

I love masteron. I love prop. I love tren A.

I will be running these three items very soon as well.

Plus, I was thinking about throwing EQ in the mix?

Are you planning on cutting or bulking? If bulking I would say yes, but hunger becomes an issue for me with EQ in a cutting cycle.[/quote]

More of a cutting cycle than bulking.

I’ve taken EQ before and I did notice a pretty big difference with my hunger.

As for the Tren, it totally killed my appetite. I had to fight to force down 6 small meals a day.

My thinking is the Tren would counter the EQ as far as the hunger goes.

If someone has taken Tren and EQ together, I would like to hear how it affected their hunger.

I think I remember Rainjack saying he has done EQ and Tren together?

If anyone else has, please chime in.

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[quote]rushman wrote:
2thepain wrote:
rushman wrote:
rainjack wrote:
As for the Tren, it totally killed my appetite. I had to fight to force down 6 small meals a day.

My thinking is the Tren would counter the EQ as far as the hunger goes.

.[/quote]

I agree, tren makes it hard for me to eat. The two countering each other is quite possible but I have never done it.

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I’m almost positive that RJ has said that tren/eq is a great stack for this very reason.

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Its been stated already but there is really no reason other than price not go with all three tw1st.

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
Its been stated already but there is really no reason other than price not go with all three tw1st.[/quote]

ya i definitely would run all three but currently I have
tren, test prop, and t3.

I’ve already started tren ace and test prop 75/100mgED respectively. Damn those shots get so fuckin sore but I love it.

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Im currently running all 3 mast prop tren…Amazing!

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[quote]sota123 wrote:
Im currently running all 3 mast prop tren…Amazing![/quote]

What doses/esters are you running?

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ED shots for 8 weeks? Ouch. I know it’s all you can get but man, I’d try hard to find some enanthate esters.

If you would do twice a week injections that’s 5 less injections a week - that’s a total of 40 over 8 weeks!

I too would like to know about Tren&EQ combo.

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ya…i’m getting used to it slowly…but im sure once im into week two + the gains and feeling from the tren and test will outweigh the soreness and injections.

Can anyone tell me when we would be the optimal time to run t3 in my cycle? or if its purely up to personal preference?