from what I have heard (ut oh!!) T3 has some nice synergy with tren, so perhaps run it for a couple weeks at the end of your tren use? Thyroid hormone is pretty suppressive, you need to be careful with the use of it… some users have experienced permanent damage (supposedly) to the actual gland, and have myriad results such as permanent supplementation, or long delayed function and recovery… yep.
I was using it once with Albuterol (no flame bitches) and decided after about a week I would just cut it out, being over ten percent body fat is fat enough for me, don’t need permanent or even temporary hypothyroidism!! The T3 has such good synergy with tren due to trens ability to ‘gobble’ up the natural thyroid hormone in ones body…?!?
[quote]tw1st wrote:
im sure once im into week two + the gains and feeling from the tren and test will outweigh the soreness and injections.
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Absolutely. You will obviously have to find areas on your own body where you can pin ED. Guys running long estered Test or Deca shooting E3D or less frequently can get away with only doing Glutes and Shoulders. ED guys need to find a few more spots. Unless maybe you did Delt1, Delt2, Glute1 and Glute2 that would give you four days between spots. Needles size might play a role too. Some guys use slin 29G needles. I never did but then a sharp 23G with warm oil never bothered me at all, even ED as long as it was a fresh site on the body
ya sapasion…i’ve been hitting my quads, d. glutes, and delts so far. Quads and glutes killed me, delts not bad at all.
Can anyone give me some tips on finding the injection location of the ventral glute; I really want to shoot their but can’t seem to confidently find the proper spot.
And also what is the maximum injection volume each injection site can efficiently absorb?
Have been on a TrenA/TestP cycle for a little over 3 wks.
Started at 50mg each every day, then after no sides for a week, upped it to 75mg ed…bumped the TestP to 100mg ed 3 days ago.
Was going to bump Tren to 100mg ed, but vets have warned that additional gains are minimal, but sides can be bothersome at that level, so I will stay where I am at for another 5 wks. After that will run EQ/TestE for 14 wks.
Size and strength gains are phenomenal and no other sides to speak of other than complete lack of cardio.
I am pinning ed, alternating between R thigh, R glute, L glute, L thigh (using 25ga pins.) On the thighs, I go high one time and low the next, so I guess it is really almost lie 6 sites not 4. I guess it’s an individal thing, but for me it has not been a problem - but I brewed gear myself and used very little BA.
Would be very interested to hear more experiences mixing Tren and EQ…if good feedback, I will add the EQ in sooner rather than wait until the Tren is done.
And also what is the maximum injection volume each injection site can efficiently absorb?[/quote]
I don’t know there is a steadfast rule. Delts can easily take a CC maybe 1.5CC but that would be the most IMO. Quads 1CC for sure 2CC is pushing it. Calves 1CC no problem, 1.5CC getting a bit ouchy. If you do bis and tris I’d cap it at a CC max. Glutes easily 2CC and I don’t think 3CC is out of the question here. It sort of depends how you do it and if you like to put it all in one jab and mix it all together.
And also what is the maximum injection volume each injection site can efficiently absorb?
I don’t know there is a steadfast rule. Delts can easily take a CC maybe 1.5CC but that would be the most IMO. Quads 1CC for sure 2CC is pushing it. Calves 1CC no problem, 1.5CC getting a bit ouchy. If you do bis and tris I’d cap it at a CC max. Glutes easily 2CC and I don’t think 3CC is out of the question here. It sort of depends how you do it and if you like to put it all in one jab and mix it all together.[/quote]
I didn’t realize EOD injections in the same glute would be a big deal. I was planning a similar cycle which, after mixing, would be 1.75cc of gear and was thinking of just alternating glutes ED…not a good idea apparently, but if I incorporated my delts it looks like maybe too much gear at 1.75cc.
So, I guess I’ll go with my quads and glutes - I can’t see where hitting the same site with 1.75cc’s E4D would be an issue, any insights?
Winstrol is really the only gear to ever cause me pain btw, so I’m looking at this strictly from a scar tissue standpoint.
Well try and see your delts might be just fine with 1.75cc. Never know till you try.
Regarding EOD in the same site. I like to give the same site at least four days off.
[quote]sapasion wrote:
Well try and see your delts might be just fine with 1.75cc. Never know till you try.
Regarding EOD in the same site. I like to give the same site at least four days off.[/quote]
Roger…thanks. A lot of times with my deca/test cyp. mixtures I would hit the same glute E3D just bc the right glute is easier bc I’m right handed I think. Never was a problem but I don’t think I ever did it more than 3x in a row. Anyway, thanks for the insight, EOD would surely end up causing some issues is my guess.
I have an interest in your question since I will be running a similar cycle in a couple of months. I’m not offering advice here, since I am admittedly not a “vet”, I would just like to better understand your situation because it may impact my cycle as well. Hopefully knowing this will keep you from flaming me.
I asked you if there were limits to what you had available, in particular if you only have 3 grams of Tren vs. the 4 grams necessary to run at 75mg ED for the full 8 weeks, because I haven’t found reasoning to support eliminating the use of tren a couple weeks before the test regardless of the dose. Again, I’m not trying to guide you but to learn from your thread, and your logic surrounding why you have offered the aforementioned alternatives interests me.