Mass. Governor & CORI Laws

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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Criminal records proposal in works
By Andrea Estes, Globe Staff | February 12, 2007

Governor Deval Patrick, returning to one of the more contentious issues of his campaign, has begun quietly putting together a plan to limit employers’ access to the criminal records of potential employees

Now my commentary;

So if you ate a school bus driver, you’ll get checked for child related crimes but NOT for instance a felony B&E or drug conviction. You could’ve gotten caught with 5 liko’s of coke but that would be “relevant” in your job description.

More feel-good BS from a guy who just can’t stop siding with the criminals and screwing us do-gooders.

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Don’t forget his copter rides, got to love so long as you have a D after your name you have a free ticket to do whatvever you want

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He took that State Police helicopter out to western MA to some inaguration or other silly event.

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[quote]derek wrote:
He took that State Police helicopter out to western MA to some inaguration or other silly event.

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Exactly when Jane Swift did it she was called the devil when Deval does it(being into alt energy and greeny stuff) he’s praised. Our property taxes are going up (he promised to lower them), this guy is so the wrong person in the office Mihos was such a better canidate

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Shoot. If you want to complain about government waste or whatnot, maybe you might want to find something substantial.

Governors and other high ranking officials in all states and parties end up using transportation and so forth all the time.

Also, your drug example might be flawed. There may certainly be a difference between major convictions and minor offences.

For example, if someone is busted once for smoking pot or shoplifting when they are 19, but at 25 want to drive a bus, should they be barred from all positions of “responsibility” for life?

Seriously, some of you folks need to get a grip about punishing people who did something “wrong” at some point in their lives. The world doesn’t have any perfect people in it…

THINK ABOUT THAT!

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Seriously, some of you folks need to get a grip about punishing people who did something “wrong” at some point in their lives. The world doesn’t have any perfect people in it…

THINK ABOUT THAT![/quote]

I have an arrest record. I have been background checked by quite a few employers. It NEVER came back to haunt me even with our local Sheriffs Department check.

I’m not worried about the small things and niether are most employers (from what I’ve read and seen in the newspapers and the few that I’ve asked.

Get a clue, Vroom. Is there nothing that is important enough to you?

How about keeping your head out of your ass when you are younger? How about being a responsible citizen? We do NOT need people in elected positions making it EASIER to be an asshole without penalty later in life.

We do not need bus drivers with felony drug charges (not “relevant” to driving). I don’t want a guy with “Child Endangerment” or “Sexual Abuse of a minor” mowing my neighbors lawn with my kids next door.

Too many people like you want to give the criminals a break while sticking it to those of us that have stayed out of trouble.

Anyone who opposes the CORI laws obviously does NOT run his/her own business.

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Shoot. If you want to complain about government waste or whatnot, maybe you might want to find something substantial.
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OK, the same Governor just alotted about $250,000 for Victorian Lampposts in a local town. He spent $150,000 on a “Moth/worm” study. And $100,000 for a simply FABULOUS gazebo.

Here’s another example of his love affair with criminals;

"When Patrick, a former lawyer and executive, was first questioned by reporters about the case last week, he said he had written one letter on behalf of convict Benjamin LaGuer 15 years ago.

Patrick has since acknowledged he wrote two letters to the parole board and helped pay for DNA testing for LaGuer in 2001. Though he said that he has no memory of the specific donation, he accepted the claim after a thank-you note addressed to him gave evidence of the contribution.

“In 2001, we were a blessed family, and we were able to make contributions in excess of $100,000 and frankly I couldn’t tell you in detail what any one of them was,” Patrick told the Boston Globe.

Patrick said he did not intend to be misleading in his original statements regarding the case.

LaGuer was convicted of rape in 1983, but long maintained he was innocent and wrongly convicted. Patrick said he wrote to the parole board because he was impressed by letters he received from LaGuer and he was concerned about racism on the jury. The conviction was later affirmed by a 2002 DNA test, and LaGuer is serving a life sentence."

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[quote]superpimp wrote:

Exactly when Jane Swift did it she was called the devil when Deval does it(being into alt energy and greeny stuff) he’s praised. Our property taxes are going up (he promised to lower them), this guy is so the wrong person in the office Mihos was such a better canidate
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Right on, my brother!
I loved Christy!

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[quote]derek wrote:
Get a clue, Vroom. Is there nothing that is important enough to you?
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Sure, but in reality, what the hell can you do about most things. How do I know whether or not I live next door to a convicted murderer? Plenty of things are important, but not the wild bullshit that gets flung around here all the time.

You can’t remove all risk from life, which is what some of you seem to be trying to do. Get a hold of your fear and stop trying to control everything. There are dangerous people and of course safeguards should be taken.

What kind of bullshit political nonsense are you spewing if that doesn’t sound responsible to you?

Who said anything about without penalty. There was a stupid example above which didn’t appear to be based on facts. Get a grip.

I don’t think anyone does. But if one of those guys creates their own lawn mowing company, how in the world would you ever know? Right now you are simply trusting that the lawn mowing company runs background checks.

I think you are confusing things here. I don’t want to give criminals any extra privileges, but it would be nice to provide a way for them to pay for their crimes, make good with society, and then re-enter the world.

If we make it impossible for a criminal to reform, get a job, and support a family, guess what, the only option left to them is to turn to crime. What a great fucking plan that is.

Most criminals, and there are certainly exceptions before you fly off the handle and make bullshit examples, are not a danger to society. They were young and screwed up, they did white collar crimes, or they stole something.

Of course, there are lots of criminals which are more dangerous to society. Now, just like anybody else, I’d be pretty leery of hiring a convict and especially thinking about placing them in a position of responsibility or risk, but not everyone who has broken a law should be discarded from society.

A lot of extremely risky people, like some of the young people that go into schools shooting people, do not even have a prior criminal background.

I don’t like the idea of “the government must protect me”. It’s what keeps their nose in my business all the time, interfering with my food and supplement choices, creating new rules and regulations that are expensive to implement, and it’s all fucking funded by my taxes and yours.

Don’t even think of trying to dump this into a liberals love criminals viewpoint you moron!

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Don’t get me started on the pork this guy put back after Mitty took them out (wasn’t a fan of Mitt either). He wants to put a T line all the way to Fall River. Have you been to Fall River?? In four years this place will be bankrupt and I’ll be another young professional who will be gone

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Of course, there are lots of criminals which are more dangerous to society. Now, just like anybody else, I’d be pretty leery of hiring a convict and especially thinking about placing them in a position of responsibility or risk, but not everyone who has broken a law should be discarded from society.

Don’t even think of trying to dump this into a liberals love criminals viewpoint you moron![/quote]

Dangerous criminals… positions of responsibility. That’s what he is affecting to the detriment to US (you moron).

And this is but ONE example. How many more do you need? Oh, wait you’re from Canada and this guy is my Governor. No wonder you don’t get it.

Who is tougher on crime as a whole, Dems or Repubs? Anyone? Anyone?