[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Trailer looks cool, but they are underplaying Thor’s abilities. Iron Man would get his shit pushed in Dark Ninja style if he tried to fight Thor. Trailer seems to be a little focused on Iron Douche.
The movie had better get it right when it comes out.[/quote]
Wol, I’m going to appeal to your geek side now: Stark was the first superhero to emerge in the real Marvel movie universe (Thor was a myth, Cap was lost in time). He is one of the most powerful men in the world, heir to one of the biggest businesses in history, always a cheeseburger away from a press conference, and politically untouchable. He is also the ultimate celebrity: Arnie crossed with Bill Gates. Thor is on probation, but that doesn’t stop Stark, as one of the most recognizable faces on the planet, from busting his or Loki’s balls. They’re used to peasants bowing down to them, but Stark is a god in his own mind.
Thor can’t match egos with Stark after Odin’s lesson in character building; Cap hates bullies and will probably compare Tony unfavorably with Howard Stark. Whedon said that he treats every character he writes as a lead even if he kills 'em off…
I trust him to make this an epic.
I mean, he wrote comics for Marvel and now he’s writing and directing a Marvel movie. He has a proven track record in both mediums. He’s no Frank Miller.[/quote]
And if Whedon and Marvel studios play this correctly, Iron Douche gets put in his place by Thor, Cap, and Loki. Cap had better lead and Thor had better display his Godly prowess. Just like the comics. [/quote]
Stark is unlikely to make the jump from team reject to team leader, unless every other team member screws up so badly that Starks looks like a model of stability.
Cap is most definitely Fury’s most obvious choice for leader. He is Fury’s boy, and the team member he is the closest to going by their boxing gym conversations. Also Cap is the most experienced in leadership (everybody else are solo acts). Not to mention he is flag and standard bearer combined in that costume.
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I heard that Thor is extremely pissed off that anybody else is trying to stop Loki. He feels it is his duty and his duty alone to tackle his wayward bro and anyone else is trying to encroach on his territory.
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Things seem to be shaping up the way you want them to.
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Sorry, bro. Been busy.
Roybot, I trust your opinions in the matter of movies and geekdom. Hopefully Whedon and Marvel studios live up to your expectations. [/quote]
Wol, I don’t have abnormally high expectations for this. I’m just going by the plot established by the previous movies & a ‘calculated guess’ based on actor interviews (Tom Hiddleston originally auditioned for the role of Thor, but when Branagh cast him as Loki he told him that the hero is only as good as the villain, so Thor’s heroism will grow in parallel to Loki’s villainy).
I admit to having ABOVE average expectations of Thor the movie, which is the primary set-up for this. Basically Odin sent Thor to Earth, knowing Thor would succeed. Then Loki took advantage of the Odinsleep and Thor’s exile. Classic prophecy story with the twist that the villain hasn’t been defeated… yet. Odin is also the master of the Marvel cinematic universe, so I’d say that the story is 'Thor-centric’for the most part:
http://screenrant.com/thor-movie-odins-vault-artifacts-rob-115931/all/1/
Thor was the first movie to really expand on the Marvel universe by taking it beyond Earth; Cap America touched on it, but Thor is the real precursor to The Avengers, in terms of story.
I believe that Joss Whedon was responsible for casting Hemsworth as Thor (Whedon produced The Cabin In The Woods which starred an unknown Hemsworth; Hemsworth said he only won the Thor role after he got a second shot when they couldn’t find the right actor) and also for casting Jeremy Renner (Whedon gave Renner an early break in Angel), both actors featured in Thor, so Whedon has been involved at casting snd script level since then at least, maybe earlier.
Nobody expected the Renner cameo. After The Hurt Locker Renner had his pick of roles. He wouldn’t have signed for a supporting role unless Whedon persuaded him.
And this is just the first phase…[/quote]
We become internet best friends with each post, Roy.
