Marvels: The Avengers (Trailer)

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[quote]WolBarret wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Trailer looks cool, but they are underplaying Thor’s abilities. Iron Man would get his shit pushed in Dark Ninja style if he tried to fight Thor. Trailer seems to be a little focused on Iron Douche.

The movie had better get it right when it comes out.[/quote]

Wol, I’m going to appeal to your geek side now: Stark was the first superhero to emerge in the real Marvel movie universe (Thor was a myth, Cap was lost in time). He is one of the most powerful men in the world, heir to one of the biggest businesses in history, always a cheeseburger away from a press conference, and politically untouchable. He is also the ultimate celebrity: Arnie crossed with Bill Gates. Thor is on probation, but that doesn’t stop Stark, as one of the most recognizable faces on the planet, from busting his or Loki’s balls. They’re used to peasants bowing down to them, but Stark is a god in his own mind.

Thor can’t match egos with Stark after Odin’s lesson in character building; Cap hates bullies and will probably compare Tony unfavorably with Howard Stark. Whedon said that he treats every character he writes as a lead even if he kills 'em off…

I trust him to make this an epic.

I mean, he wrote comics for Marvel and now he’s writing and directing a Marvel movie. He has a proven track record in both mediums. He’s no Frank Miller.[/quote]

And if Whedon and Marvel studios play this correctly, Iron Douche gets put in his place by Thor, Cap, and Loki. Cap had better lead and Thor had better display his Godly prowess. Just like the comics. [/quote]

Stark is unlikely to make the jump from team reject to team leader, unless every other team member screws up so badly that Starks looks like a model of stability.

Cap is most definitely Fury’s most obvious choice for leader. He is Fury’s boy, and the team member he is the closest to going by their boxing gym conversations. Also Cap is the most experienced in leadership (everybody else are solo acts). Not to mention he is flag and standard bearer combined in that costume.

[POSSIBLE THOR-RELATED AVENGERS SPOILERS AHEAD]

I heard that Thor is extremely pissed off that anybody else is trying to stop Loki. He feels it is his duty and his duty alone to tackle his wayward bro and anyone else is trying to encroach on his territory.

[/SPOILERS]

Things seem to be shaping up the way you want them to.

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I am so getting this shirt

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

Pretty cool recreation of the Avengers trailer using the Marvel '60’s cartoon only thing the creater did do was use the Nick Fury from the 90’s Spider-Man[/quote]

Pretty cool indeed.

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

I am so getting this shirt[/quote]

Awesome t-shirt.

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

I am so getting this shirt[/quote]

Something up with your link. Re-posted.

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According to Kevin Feige, The Avengers will mark the end of “Phase 1” of Marvel’s plan to build a cohesive universe from the ground up:

http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/12067/new-avengers-could-appear-in-avengers-2-and-more-on-marvels-expanding-movie-universe/

In a mirroring of Phase 1, Phase 2 will begin with Iron Man 3 and culminate with Avengers 2. Phase 2 will see the introduction of more team members, including Ant-Man (maybe via a cameo in IM3 then a solo movie the following year) and (hopefully) Black Panther, as well as the expected sequels for the already established roster of heroes.

The significance of the alien army (or at least their race) will be explained as Phase 2 develops, hinting that they have a much larger role to play than what we will see in The Avengers.

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No Vison Please. No Witch Please. Inhumans YES PLEASE!

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[quote]roybot wrote:
According to Kevin Feige, The Avengers will mark the end of “Phase 1” of Marvel’s plan to build a cohesive universe from the ground up:

http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/12067/new-avengers-could-appear-in-avengers-2-and-more-on-marvels-expanding-movie-universe/

In a mirroring of Phase 1, Phase 2 will begin with Iron Man 3 and culminate with Avengers 2. Phase 2 will see the introduction of more team members, including Ant-Man (maybe via a cameo in IM3 then a solo movie the following year) and (hopefully) Black Panther, as well as the expected sequels for the already established roster of heroes.

The significance of the alien army (or at least their race) will be explained as Phase 2 develops, hinting that they have a much larger role to play than what we will see in The Avengers.

[/quote]

So if they’re putting the whole universe together, is it reasonable to believe cameos from the other franshises? F4, Xmen, Ghost Rider, Spiderman, etc. That would be pretty cool, especially if it’s a big cameo, like they help out in a big fight at some point in the movie.

I’m thinking they might make it similar to the new Avengers cartoon that came out recently, pretty sure it’s no coincidence with the timing of it and the movies. I’m sure the next season will start shortly after the movie comes out.

In that story, Iron Man is really more the leader than anyone else. He providese the headquarters, ways to communicate between the team, and tries his best to handle the egos and keep them together as a team while representing the team to other groups and giving out orders and such. It’s not a role he seems to WANT as much as he has taken on the Avengers responsibility given to him by SHIELD so he does it out of necessity. It seems to me like they may be taking that route with him in the movies, too.

Captain America is really more of an advisor and mentor teaching his wisdom to the group and helping out as best he can, since a central theme is that he’s an old-school hero in a new world with more powerful beings to face than what he had to deal with in his time (this is in the new cartoon show).

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[quote]BDSLift wrote:
No Vison Please. No Witch Please. Inhumans YES PLEASE![/quote]

Vision and Scarlet Witch were my favorite Avengers.

The Inhumans were awesome, too.

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[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
According to Kevin Feige, The Avengers will mark the end of “Phase 1” of Marvel’s plan to build a cohesive universe from the ground up:

http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/12067/new-avengers-could-appear-in-avengers-2-and-more-on-marvels-expanding-movie-universe/

In a mirroring of Phase 1, Phase 2 will begin with Iron Man 3 and culminate with Avengers 2. Phase 2 will see the introduction of more team members, including Ant-Man (maybe via a cameo in IM3 then a solo movie the following year) and (hopefully) Black Panther, as well as the expected sequels for the already established roster of heroes.

The significance of the alien army (or at least their race) will be explained as Phase 2 develops, hinting that they have a much larger role to play than what we will see in The Avengers.

[/quote]

So if they’re putting the whole universe together, is it reasonable to believe cameos from the other franshises? F4, Xmen, Ghost Rider, Spiderman, etc. That would be pretty cool, especially if it’s a big cameo, like they help out in a big fight at some point in the movie.

I’m thinking they might make it similar to the new Avengers cartoon that came out recently, pretty sure it’s no coincidence with the timing of it and the movies. I’m sure the next season will start shortly after the movie comes out.

In that story, Iron Man is really more the leader than anyone else. He providese the headquarters, ways to communicate between the team, and tries his best to handle the egos and keep them together as a team while representing the team to other groups and giving out orders and such. It’s not a role he seems to WANT as much as he has taken on the Avengers responsibility given to him by SHIELD so he does it out of necessity. It seems to me like they may be taking that route with him in the movies, too.

Captain America is really more of an advisor and mentor teaching his wisdom to the group and helping out as best he can, since a central theme is that he’s an old-school hero in a new world with more powerful beings to face than what he had to deal with in his time (this is in the new cartoon show).[/quote]

Most of the characters you mentioned in the first paragraph are currently owned by other studios. FF may make an appearance when the rights revert to Marvel (FF are the only franchise not being renewed, so it’s a waiting game, but I don’t think they’ll return to Marvel in time to be included in the run-up to Avengers 2).

Amazing Spider-Man and X-Men: First Class are keeping the rights away from Marvel indefinitely. First Class was a hit, Spidey is expected to be one, so it could be a decade or more before Marvel get a shot at X-Men or Web-Head.

They do have Blade, and they DID have Punisher, but I think they sold the rights off again to Fox to make a TV series (seems they’ve abandoned all plans for another Punisher movie).

One thing’s for sure: the second wave of movies will be significantly more complicated than the first (which is no mean feat given that there was plenty of depth in the ‘foundation’ movies) with more cameos and cross-references.

I’m looking forward especially to finding out about the alien army. It seems they are far more than Loki’s lackeys (try saying that three times without slipping)…

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
According to Kevin Feige, The Avengers will mark the end of “Phase 1” of Marvel’s plan to build a cohesive universe from the ground up:

http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/12067/new-avengers-could-appear-in-avengers-2-and-more-on-marvels-expanding-movie-universe/

In a mirroring of Phase 1, Phase 2 will begin with Iron Man 3 and culminate with Avengers 2. Phase 2 will see the introduction of more team members, including Ant-Man (maybe via a cameo in IM3 then a solo movie the following year) and (hopefully) Black Panther, as well as the expected sequels for the already established roster of heroes.

The significance of the alien army (or at least their race) will be explained as Phase 2 develops, hinting that they have a much larger role to play than what we will see in The Avengers.

[/quote]

So if they’re putting the whole universe together, is it reasonable to believe cameos from the other franshises? F4, Xmen, Ghost Rider, Spiderman, etc. That would be pretty cool, especially if it’s a big cameo, like they help out in a big fight at some point in the movie.

I’m thinking they might make it similar to the new Avengers cartoon that came out recently, pretty sure it’s no coincidence with the timing of it and the movies. I’m sure the next season will start shortly after the movie comes out.

In that story, Iron Man is really more the leader than anyone else. He providese the headquarters, ways to communicate between the team, and tries his best to handle the egos and keep them together as a team while representing the team to other groups and giving out orders and such. It’s not a role he seems to WANT as much as he has taken on the Avengers responsibility given to him by SHIELD so he does it out of necessity. It seems to me like they may be taking that route with him in the movies, too.

Captain America is really more of an advisor and mentor teaching his wisdom to the group and helping out as best he can, since a central theme is that he’s an old-school hero in a new world with more powerful beings to face than what he had to deal with in his time (this is in the new cartoon show).[/quote]

Most of the characters you mentioned in the first paragraph are currently owned by other studios. FF may make an appearance when the rights revert to Marvel (FF are the only franchise not being renewed, so it’s a waiting game, but I don’t think they’ll return to Marvel in time to be included in run-up to Avengers 2).

Amazing Spider-Man and X-Men: First Class are keeping the rights away from Marvel indefinitely. First Class was a hit, Spidey is expected to be one, so it could be a decade or more before Marvel get a shot at X-Men or Web-Head.

They do have Blade, and they DID have Punisher, but I think they sold the rights off again to Fox to make a TV series (seems they’ve abandoned all plans for another Punisher movie).

One thing’s for sure: the second wave of movies will be significantly more complicated than the first (which is no mean feat given that there was plenty of depth in the ‘foundation’ movies) with more cameos and cross-references.

I’m looking forward especially to finding out about the alien army. It seems they are far more than Loki’s lackeys (try saying that three times without slipping)…[/quote]

Since it’s not Skrull and they look green I still say Ba’doon the aliens from Gaurdians of the Galaxy

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
According to Kevin Feige, The Avengers will mark the end of “Phase 1” of Marvel’s plan to build a cohesive universe from the ground up:

http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/12067/new-avengers-could-appear-in-avengers-2-and-more-on-marvels-expanding-movie-universe/

In a mirroring of Phase 1, Phase 2 will begin with Iron Man 3 and culminate with Avengers 2. Phase 2 will see the introduction of more team members, including Ant-Man (maybe via a cameo in IM3 then a solo movie the following year) and (hopefully) Black Panther, as well as the expected sequels for the already established roster of heroes.

The significance of the alien army (or at least their race) will be explained as Phase 2 develops, hinting that they have a much larger role to play than what we will see in The Avengers.

[/quote]

So if they’re putting the whole universe together, is it reasonable to believe cameos from the other franshises? F4, Xmen, Ghost Rider, Spiderman, etc. That would be pretty cool, especially if it’s a big cameo, like they help out in a big fight at some point in the movie.

I’m thinking they might make it similar to the new Avengers cartoon that came out recently, pretty sure it’s no coincidence with the timing of it and the movies. I’m sure the next season will start shortly after the movie comes out.

In that story, Iron Man is really more the leader than anyone else. He providese the headquarters, ways to communicate between the team, and tries his best to handle the egos and keep them together as a team while representing the team to other groups and giving out orders and such. It’s not a role he seems to WANT as much as he has taken on the Avengers responsibility given to him by SHIELD so he does it out of necessity. It seems to me like they may be taking that route with him in the movies, too.

Captain America is really more of an advisor and mentor teaching his wisdom to the group and helping out as best he can, since a central theme is that he’s an old-school hero in a new world with more powerful beings to face than what he had to deal with in his time (this is in the new cartoon show).[/quote]

Most of the characters you mentioned in the first paragraph are currently owned by other studios. FF may make an appearance when the rights revert to Marvel (FF are the only franchise not being renewed, so it’s a waiting game, but I don’t think they’ll return to Marvel in time to be included in run-up to Avengers 2).

Amazing Spider-Man and X-Men: First Class are keeping the rights away from Marvel indefinitely. First Class was a hit, Spidey is expected to be one, so it could be a decade or more before Marvel get a shot at X-Men or Web-Head.

They do have Blade, and they DID have Punisher, but I think they sold the rights off again to Fox to make a TV series (seems they’ve abandoned all plans for another Punisher movie).

One thing’s for sure: the second wave of movies will be significantly more complicated than the first (which is no mean feat given that there was plenty of depth in the ‘foundation’ movies) with more cameos and cross-references.

I’m looking forward especially to finding out about the alien army. It seems they are far more than Loki’s lackeys (try saying that three times without slipping)…[/quote]

Since it’s not Skrull and they look green I still say Ba’doon the aliens from Gaurdians of the Galaxy[/quote]

You’re probably right. The article backs that theory with mention of a ‘Guardians’ movie being part of Phase 2.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
According to Kevin Feige, The Avengers will mark the end of “Phase 1” of Marvel’s plan to build a cohesive universe from the ground up:

http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/12067/new-avengers-could-appear-in-avengers-2-and-more-on-marvels-expanding-movie-universe/

In a mirroring of Phase 1, Phase 2 will begin with Iron Man 3 and culminate with Avengers 2. Phase 2 will see the introduction of more team members, including Ant-Man (maybe via a cameo in IM3 then a solo movie the following year) and (hopefully) Black Panther, as well as the expected sequels for the already established roster of heroes.

The significance of the alien army (or at least their race) will be explained as Phase 2 develops, hinting that they have a much larger role to play than what we will see in The Avengers.

[/quote]

So if they’re putting the whole universe together, is it reasonable to believe cameos from the other franshises? F4, Xmen, Ghost Rider, Spiderman, etc. That would be pretty cool, especially if it’s a big cameo, like they help out in a big fight at some point in the movie.

I’m thinking they might make it similar to the new Avengers cartoon that came out recently, pretty sure it’s no coincidence with the timing of it and the movies. I’m sure the next season will start shortly after the movie comes out.

In that story, Iron Man is really more the leader than anyone else. He providese the headquarters, ways to communicate between the team, and tries his best to handle the egos and keep them together as a team while representing the team to other groups and giving out orders and such. It’s not a role he seems to WANT as much as he has taken on the Avengers responsibility given to him by SHIELD so he does it out of necessity. It seems to me like they may be taking that route with him in the movies, too.

Captain America is really more of an advisor and mentor teaching his wisdom to the group and helping out as best he can, since a central theme is that he’s an old-school hero in a new world with more powerful beings to face than what he had to deal with in his time (this is in the new cartoon show).[/quote]

Most of the characters you mentioned in the first paragraph are currently owned by other studios. FF may make an appearance when the rights revert to Marvel (FF are the only franchise not being renewed, so it’s a waiting game, but I don’t think they’ll return to Marvel in time to be included in run-up to Avengers 2).

Amazing Spider-Man and X-Men: First Class are keeping the rights away from Marvel indefinitely. First Class was a hit, Spidey is expected to be one, so it could be a decade or more before Marvel get a shot at X-Men or Web-Head.

They do have Blade, and they DID have Punisher, but I think they sold the rights off again to Fox to make a TV series (seems they’ve abandoned all plans for another Punisher movie).

One thing’s for sure: the second wave of movies will be significantly more complicated than the first (which is no mean feat given that there was plenty of depth in the ‘foundation’ movies) with more cameos and cross-references.

I’m looking forward especially to finding out about the alien army. It seems they are far more than Loki’s lackeys (try saying that three times without slipping)…[/quote]

Since it’s not Skrull and they look green I still say Ba’doon the aliens from Gaurdians of the Galaxy[/quote]

You’re probably right. The article backs that theory with mention of a ‘Guardians’ movie being part of Phase 2.[/quote]

How do you know it’s not Skrull?

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[quote]TDub301 wrote:

How do you know it’s not Skrull?[/quote]

The Skrulls are part of the FF movie rights. Also, Marvel spokesmouth Kevin Feige said so:

[quote]Marvel Studios seems to be doing just fine keeping the plot of The Avengers secret. While we know that Thor’s Tom Hiddleston returns as Loki, he’s clearly not the film’s only threat, since the trailer shows enormous battle scenes on the streets of New York City, against a completely unseen menace. Popular internet rumors suggest that The Avengers will face off against the shape-shifting Skrulls, possibly in a sort of Secret Invasion storyline, but in a recent interview with Empire, Marvel’s Kevin Feige debunked those rumors as speculation.

Here’s an excerpt from the upcoming issue of Empire, via JoBlo:

“Who said they were aliens?” he teases. Beings from the Nine Realms, then, ventures Empire? “Closer…It’s not Skrulls, I’ve been clear about that. Beyond that, we want to hide it. The identity of the alien race is not impactful. It exists in the comic books, but we’re not setting up the Kree-Skrull war or anything like that.”
[/quote]

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
According to Kevin Feige, The Avengers will mark the end of “Phase 1” of Marvel’s plan to build a cohesive universe from the ground up:

http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/12067/new-avengers-could-appear-in-avengers-2-and-more-on-marvels-expanding-movie-universe/

In a mirroring of Phase 1, Phase 2 will begin with Iron Man 3 and culminate with Avengers 2. Phase 2 will see the introduction of more team members, including Ant-Man (maybe via a cameo in IM3 then a solo movie the following year) and (hopefully) Black Panther, as well as the expected sequels for the already established roster of heroes.

The significance of the alien army (or at least their race) will be explained as Phase 2 develops, hinting that they have a much larger role to play than what we will see in The Avengers.

[/quote]

So if they’re putting the whole universe together, is it reasonable to believe cameos from the other franshises? F4, Xmen, Ghost Rider, Spiderman, etc. That would be pretty cool, especially if it’s a big cameo, like they help out in a big fight at some point in the movie.

I’m thinking they might make it similar to the new Avengers cartoon that came out recently, pretty sure it’s no coincidence with the timing of it and the movies. I’m sure the next season will start shortly after the movie comes out.

In that story, Iron Man is really more the leader than anyone else. He providese the headquarters, ways to communicate between the team, and tries his best to handle the egos and keep them together as a team while representing the team to other groups and giving out orders and such. It’s not a role he seems to WANT as much as he has taken on the Avengers responsibility given to him by SHIELD so he does it out of necessity. It seems to me like they may be taking that route with him in the movies, too.

Captain America is really more of an advisor and mentor teaching his wisdom to the group and helping out as best he can, since a central theme is that he’s an old-school hero in a new world with more powerful beings to face than what he had to deal with in his time (this is in the new cartoon show).[/quote]

Most of the characters you mentioned in the first paragraph are currently owned by other studios. FF may make an appearance when the rights revert to Marvel (FF are the only franchise not being renewed, so it’s a waiting game, but I don’t think they’ll return to Marvel in time to be included in the run-up to Avengers 2).

Amazing Spider-Man and X-Men: First Class are keeping the rights away from Marvel indefinitely. First Class was a hit, Spidey is expected to be one, so it could be a decade or more before Marvel get a shot at X-Men or Web-Head.

They do have Blade, and they DID have Punisher, but I think they sold the rights off again to Fox to make a TV series (seems they’ve abandoned all plans for another Punisher movie).

One thing’s for sure: the second wave of movies will be significantly more complicated than the first (which is no mean feat given that there was plenty of depth in the ‘foundation’ movies) with more cameos and cross-references.

I’m looking forward especially to finding out about the alien army. It seems they are far more than Loki’s lackeys (try saying that three times without slipping)…[/quote]

They need to buy back some of those rights and start building to a Civil War storyline…I know they’d mess it up, but it’s epic to think about.

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[quote]benos4752 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
According to Kevin Feige, The Avengers will mark the end of “Phase 1” of Marvel’s plan to build a cohesive universe from the ground up:

http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/12067/new-avengers-could-appear-in-avengers-2-and-more-on-marvels-expanding-movie-universe/

In a mirroring of Phase 1, Phase 2 will begin with Iron Man 3 and culminate with Avengers 2. Phase 2 will see the introduction of more team members, including Ant-Man (maybe via a cameo in IM3 then a solo movie the following year) and (hopefully) Black Panther, as well as the expected sequels for the already established roster of heroes.

The significance of the alien army (or at least their race) will be explained as Phase 2 develops, hinting that they have a much larger role to play than what we will see in The Avengers.

[/quote]

So if they’re putting the whole universe together, is it reasonable to believe cameos from the other franshises? F4, Xmen, Ghost Rider, Spiderman, etc. That would be pretty cool, especially if it’s a big cameo, like they help out in a big fight at some point in the movie.

I’m thinking they might make it similar to the new Avengers cartoon that came out recently, pretty sure it’s no coincidence with the timing of it and the movies. I’m sure the next season will start shortly after the movie comes out.

In that story, Iron Man is really more the leader than anyone else. He providese the headquarters, ways to communicate between the team, and tries his best to handle the egos and keep them together as a team while representing the team to other groups and giving out orders and such. It’s not a role he seems to WANT as much as he has taken on the Avengers responsibility given to him by SHIELD so he does it out of necessity. It seems to me like they may be taking that route with him in the movies, too.

Captain America is really more of an advisor and mentor teaching his wisdom to the group and helping out as best he can, since a central theme is that he’s an old-school hero in a new world with more powerful beings to face than what he had to deal with in his time (this is in the new cartoon show).[/quote]

Most of the characters you mentioned in the first paragraph are currently owned by other studios. FF may make an appearance when the rights revert to Marvel (FF are the only franchise not being renewed, so it’s a waiting game, but I don’t think they’ll return to Marvel in time to be included in the run-up to Avengers 2).

Amazing Spider-Man and X-Men: First Class are keeping the rights away from Marvel indefinitely. First Class was a hit, Spidey is expected to be one, so it could be a decade or more before Marvel get a shot at X-Men or Web-Head.

They do have Blade, and they DID have Punisher, but I think they sold the rights off again to Fox to make a TV series (seems they’ve abandoned all plans for another Punisher movie).

One thing’s for sure: the second wave of movies will be significantly more complicated than the first (which is no mean feat given that there was plenty of depth in the ‘foundation’ movies) with more cameos and cross-references.

I’m looking forward especially to finding out about the alien army. It seems they are far more than Loki’s lackeys (try saying that three times without slipping)…[/quote]

They need to buy back some of those rights and start building to a Civil War storyline…I know they’d mess it up, but it’s epic to think about.[/quote]

Aha, well that’s pretty definitive. I was thinking for a second they might, since on the cartoon show, it seems like they’re about to do their version of the Skrull invasion from the end of the last episode.

I too think they should start buying back all the rights to their other characters for the same reason. Of course, by the time they’re done going through this next “phase” we’ll all be like 10 years older, plenty of time for them to slowly get back all those rights.

A Civil War movie would be amazing (even though you’re right, it wouldn’t be nearly as good as the comic version, would probably just be a fraction of the heroes who were actually involved), among other storylines they could do. I may die if I see a World War Hulk movie or an Infinity Gems movie (I did hear they will do another Silver Surfer movie, maybe that could lead to that down the line).

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[quote]TDub301 wrote:
I may die if I see a World War Hulk movie[/quote]

That story-line completely skipped my mind…that would be insane.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]BDSLift wrote:
No Vison Please. No Witch Please. Inhumans YES PLEASE![/quote]

Vision and Scarlet Witch were my favorite Avengers.

The Inhumans were awesome, too. [/quote]

I was also a fan of Vision…not so much Scarlet Witch. She always seems like a scape goat for getting out of stuff. Her power is she can fuck up a plan by anyone, WHAT WOMAN DOES NOT HAVE THAT POWER LOL

But I fear they will not be able to transfer them to real life characters without making them both kinda silly.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]WolBarret wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Trailer looks cool, but they are underplaying Thor’s abilities. Iron Man would get his shit pushed in Dark Ninja style if he tried to fight Thor. Trailer seems to be a little focused on Iron Douche.

The movie had better get it right when it comes out.[/quote]

Wol, I’m going to appeal to your geek side now: Stark was the first superhero to emerge in the real Marvel movie universe (Thor was a myth, Cap was lost in time). He is one of the most powerful men in the world, heir to one of the biggest businesses in history, always a cheeseburger away from a press conference, and politically untouchable. He is also the ultimate celebrity: Arnie crossed with Bill Gates. Thor is on probation, but that doesn’t stop Stark, as one of the most recognizable faces on the planet, from busting his or Loki’s balls. They’re used to peasants bowing down to them, but Stark is a god in his own mind.

Thor can’t match egos with Stark after Odin’s lesson in character building; Cap hates bullies and will probably compare Tony unfavorably with Howard Stark. Whedon said that he treats every character he writes as a lead even if he kills 'em off…

I trust him to make this an epic.

I mean, he wrote comics for Marvel and now he’s writing and directing a Marvel movie. He has a proven track record in both mediums. He’s no Frank Miller.[/quote]

And if Whedon and Marvel studios play this correctly, Iron Douche gets put in his place by Thor, Cap, and Loki. Cap had better lead and Thor had better display his Godly prowess. Just like the comics. [/quote]

Stark is unlikely to make the jump from team reject to team leader, unless every other team member screws up so badly that Starks looks like a model of stability.

Cap is most definitely Fury’s most obvious choice for leader. He is Fury’s boy, and the team member he is the closest to going by their boxing gym conversations. Also Cap is the most experienced in leadership (everybody else are solo acts). Not to mention he is flag and standard bearer combined in that costume.

[POSSIBLE THOR-RELATED AVENGERS SPOILERS AHEAD]

I heard that Thor is extremely pissed off that anybody else is trying to stop Loki. He feels it is his duty and his duty alone to tackle his wayward bro and anyone else is trying to encroach on his territory.

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Things seem to be shaping up the way you want them to.

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Sorry, bro. Been busy.

Roybot, I trust your opinions in the matter of movies and geekdom. Hopefully Whedon and Marvel studios live up to your expectations.

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[quote]WolBarret wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]WolBarret wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Trailer looks cool, but they are underplaying Thor’s abilities. Iron Man would get his shit pushed in Dark Ninja style if he tried to fight Thor. Trailer seems to be a little focused on Iron Douche.

The movie had better get it right when it comes out.[/quote]

Wol, I’m going to appeal to your geek side now: Stark was the first superhero to emerge in the real Marvel movie universe (Thor was a myth, Cap was lost in time). He is one of the most powerful men in the world, heir to one of the biggest businesses in history, always a cheeseburger away from a press conference, and politically untouchable. He is also the ultimate celebrity: Arnie crossed with Bill Gates. Thor is on probation, but that doesn’t stop Stark, as one of the most recognizable faces on the planet, from busting his or Loki’s balls. They’re used to peasants bowing down to them, but Stark is a god in his own mind.

Thor can’t match egos with Stark after Odin’s lesson in character building; Cap hates bullies and will probably compare Tony unfavorably with Howard Stark. Whedon said that he treats every character he writes as a lead even if he kills 'em off…

I trust him to make this an epic.

I mean, he wrote comics for Marvel and now he’s writing and directing a Marvel movie. He has a proven track record in both mediums. He’s no Frank Miller.[/quote]

And if Whedon and Marvel studios play this correctly, Iron Douche gets put in his place by Thor, Cap, and Loki. Cap had better lead and Thor had better display his Godly prowess. Just like the comics. [/quote]

Stark is unlikely to make the jump from team reject to team leader, unless every other team member screws up so badly that Starks looks like a model of stability.

Cap is most definitely Fury’s most obvious choice for leader. He is Fury’s boy, and the team member he is the closest to going by their boxing gym conversations. Also Cap is the most experienced in leadership (everybody else are solo acts). Not to mention he is flag and standard bearer combined in that costume.

[POSSIBLE THOR-RELATED AVENGERS SPOILERS AHEAD]

I heard that Thor is extremely pissed off that anybody else is trying to stop Loki. He feels it is his duty and his duty alone to tackle his wayward bro and anyone else is trying to encroach on his territory.

[/SPOILERS]

Things seem to be shaping up the way you want them to.

[/quote]

Sorry, bro. Been busy.

Roybot, I trust your opinions in the matter of movies and geekdom. Hopefully Whedon and Marvel studios live up to your expectations. [/quote]

Wol, I don’t have abnormally high expectations for this. I’m just going by the plot established by the previous movies & a ‘calculated guess’ based on actor interviews (Tom Hiddleston originally auditioned for the role of Thor, but when Branagh cast him as Loki he told him that the hero is only as good as the villain, so Thor’s heroism will grow in parallel to Loki’s villainy).

I admit to having ABOVE average expectations of Thor the movie, which is the primary set-up for this. Basically Odin sent Thor to Earth, knowing Thor would succeed. Then Loki took advantage of the Odinsleep and Thor’s exile. Classic prophecy story with the twist that the villain hasn’t been defeated… yet. Odin is also the master of the Marvel cinematic universe, so I’d say that the story is 'Thor-centric’for the most part:

http://screenrant.com/thor-movie-odins-vault-artifacts-rob-115931/all/1/

Thor was the first movie to really expand on the Marvel universe by taking it beyond Earth; Cap America touched on it, but Thor is the real precursor to The Avengers, in terms of story.

I believe that Joss Whedon was responsible for casting Hemsworth as Thor (Whedon produced The Cabin In The Woods which starred an unknown Hemsworth; Hemsworth said he only won the Thor role after he got a second shot when they couldn’t find the right actor) and also for casting Jeremy Renner (Whedon gave Renner an early break in Angel), both actors featured in Thor, so Whedon has been involved at casting and script level since then at least, maybe earlier.

Nobody expected the Renner cameo. After The Hurt Locker Renner had his pick of roles. He wouldn’t have signed for a supporting role unless Whedon persuaded him.

And this is just the first phase…