[quote]dirtbag wrote:
But they are board killers. Make no mistake these men are killers.
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What’s your point?
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Some people are assholes. Don’t blame the Marine Corp.
I don’t think anyone’s blaming the Corps. Just pointing out what a piece of shit this guy and his buddy are.
The thread title and the article emphasize he is a Marine when he really is just an asshole.
Ok, well in the video he’s in full combat gear during some type of training/recon, if he had been taped in civilian clothing I’m sure the article and thread would be titled differently.[/quote]
Possibly but not likely. When an off-duty cop/firefighter/whatever gets in trouble his profession is almost always a main focus of the reporting. It is pure sensationalism.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
The thread title and the article emphasize he is a Marine when he really is just an asshole.[/quote]
Not “just an asshole”. Hurting puppies and deriving joy from it, is hard to beat on the asshole-ness scale.
I do agree that people should be careful not to amalgamate the action of these scumbags with the Marine Corp., but at the end of the day, they did what they did with American tax-payer money and while wearing a US uniform. That should be enough to get really concerned about the issue.
Some of the comments on this thread are extremely disturbing. It seems some here are devoid of any humane feeling.
killing is not cool
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It’s Marine Corps, not Marine Corp.
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Had one of my LCpl’s done that I would have kicked the shit out of him and gotten myself busted down. There is an extremely high level of professionalism I expected out of my Marines. This is unacceptable. It is also indicative of a sociopath. By not weeding guys like this out you end up with Mai Lai.
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That kid is screwed. The Corps doesn’t stand for this bullshit, and they certainly don’t like the negative publicity. At best he’ll be busted to Private and be ineligible for re-enlistment. At worst he’ll be dishonorably discharged. Either situation is possible.
mike
The puppy slipped.
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
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It’s Marine Corps, not Marine Corp.
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Had one of my LCpl’s done that I would have kicked the shit out of him and gotten myself busted down. There is an extremely high level of professionalism I expected out of my Marines. This is unacceptable. It is also indicative of a sociopath. By not weeding guys like this out you end up with Mai Lai.
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That kid is screwed. The Corps doesn’t stand for this bullshit, and they certainly don’t like the negative publicity. At best he’ll be busted to Private and be ineligible for re-enlistment. At worst he’ll be dishonorably discharged. Either situation is possible.
mike[/quote]
Good post.
[quote]CC wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
These men are marines. Yeah they are being dicks. But they are board killers. Make no mistake these men are killers.
So that justifies letting them just kill whatever they feel like killing whenever they want?
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No it doesn’t. This comes from a bad CO. Not knowing what his troops are doing under his command. Goofing off and pushing the each other and the line of what is acceptable behavior.
Damn, that’s horrible. Just read an article the other day about US servicemen rescuing pups/dogs. In fact, there was article about them being able to get some pups sent back home. Unfortunately, such stories never become internet hits.
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
- It’s Marine Corps, not Marine Corp.
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Marine Corporation.
Sorry, I type Corp. all day.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Possibly but not likely. [/quote]
I seriously doubt the OP or the journalist would have used the word Marine if the guy wasn’t wearing his gear.
Isn’t it natural for the people to hold cops to higher standards? Every time a cop as much as steals a snack bar from a shop, his profession should be noted when covering the story. When you entrust someone with authority and/or weapons, it is your right - nay, duty! - to scrutinize them and make sure only the finest get to keep those prerogatives.
It’s got nothing to do with sensationalism. If an “off-duty” kindergarten employee is caught with child porn, shouldn’t his profession be a “focus of the reporting”?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Possibly but not likely.
I seriously doubt the OP or the journalist would have used the word Marine if the guy wasn’t wearing his gear.
When an off-duty cop/firefighter/whatever gets in trouble his profession is almost always a main focus of the reporting. It is pure sensationalism.
Isn’t it natural for the people to hold cops to higher standards? Every time a cop as much as steals a snack bar from a shop, his profession should be noted when covering the story. When you entrust someone with authority and/or weapons, it is your right - nay, duty! - to scrutinize them and make sure only the finest get to keep those prerogatives.
It’s got nothing to do with sensationalism. If an “off-duty” kindergarten employee is caught with child porn, shouldn’t his profession be a “focus of the reporting”?
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What about when the teachers husband has been arrested for some minor offense? I saw that one in my paper a few weeks ago. Some clown got busted for something stupid and the article had to point out he was married to a teacher.
It is constant. Teachers, firefighters, cops etc, their profession is always the key to any story. When it is an engineer or an insurance salesman he is just referred to as a man.
[quote]dirtbag wrote:
CC wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
These men are marines. Yeah they are being dicks. But they are board killers. Make no mistake these men are killers.
So that justifies letting them just kill whatever they feel like killing whenever they want?
No it doesn’t. This comes from a bad CO. Not knowing what his troops are doing under his command. Goofing off and pushing the each other and the line of what is acceptable behavior.
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You’re taking the first step down a very slippery slope, my friend. Is a CO responsible for everything his subordinates do at all hours of the day? What if this had happened with the guy not in his uniform? What if this had happened while he was off-duty? Or after he was retired (he would still have been a trained “killer” after retirement, no?)? You see where this is going?
People generally would not commit acts like this because they want to be decent, humane, mentally healthy human beings; not because their commanding officer wasn’t watching them and holding their hand.
Man. What has happened to the idea of personal responsibility in this world?
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
- It’s Marine Corps, not Marine Corp. [/quote]
Thanks for the precision. But technically, a dot signifies an abbreviation 
Forget the Corps and what they don’t like. No organization or institution on Earth would stand for such a horrific action or want its name associated with it.
It’s not just the Corps that’s getting a bad rep here. This is fueling discontent towards every American soldier stationed abroad.
[quote]downsouthnick wrote:
Shit. These days he would have been better off just massacring a village women and children. He’d probably get less press coverage and punishment.
I’m pretty sure the UCMJ doesn’t have any articles on killing stray dogs and I don’t feel like looking.
If anything, I hope they bust him down a rank and sweep this under the rug. You PETA sympathizers are something else. [/quote]
You’re an asshole too. You probably also thought Michael Vick had the right to torture and murder innocent animals for his own entertainment value.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Damn, that’s horrible. Just read an article the other day about US servicemen rescuing pups/dogs. In fact, there was article about them being able to get some pups sent back home. Unfortunately, such stories never become internet hits.[/quote]
I mentioned in this thread that troops have been bringing pets home : )
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Damn, that’s horrible. Just read an article the other day about US servicemen rescuing pups/dogs. In fact, there was article about them being able to get some pups sent back home. Unfortunately, such stories never become internet hits.
I mentioned in this thread that troops have been bringing pets home : )
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Ah, sorry about that. I was quick to reply without reading everything (the subject matter being so disturbing).
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Some people are assholes. Don’t blame the Marine Corp.[/quote]
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Guys, it’s a video.
Stuff like this happens all the time. Yes, people get tortured, raped and killed even when you don’t watch it on youtube.
It’s also funny that a discussion is bound to happen when it involves a dude in uniform.
You don’t have to mention anything, the uniform huggers will spring from their posts and trumpet how it’s always the military and cops who get all the slam.
Also, Lixy is right when he says he sees hypocrisy in action. What do you think soldiers (at least a healthy portion) do in a war? hint: it gets rougher then just puppies.