The woman who was interviewed and released called someone to come and assault the deceased in front of witnesses. Getting someone to kill someone else (contract murder) is a crime here in the US. In Britain the cops will ask a few questions and let you go. The cops should have arrested the woman for inciting an act of violence that left someone dead.
Here is another example of how the British cheapen the value of human life.
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Serial joyrider kills mother in crash just two months after courts let him walk free
A criminal who walked free from court for dangerous driving offences, killed a mother just two months later as he raced down a street at around 100mph.
Convicted joyrider Devon Pinnock, 21, was jailed for eight years yesterday after pleading guilty to causing death by dangerous driving while disqualified.
Tina Boucher, 38, a mother-of-four, died instantly in January when her Citroen collided with Pinnock’s Golf GTI in a horrific head-on smash. Her youngest son Martin, six, who was sitting in the passenger seat beside her miraculously escaped the carnage with only minor injuries, but two other passengers were critically hurt
A police officer who attended the scene of the crash said it was the worst carnage he had seen since the IRA bombing in Manchester.
Yesterday Mrs Boucher’s mother Janet, 59, wept with rage as she demanded to know why her daughter’s killer had been allowed out on the streets.
She said: 'I was so angry when I heard he had been causing trouble on the roads before and yet had been let out to kill my daughter. That man took my daughter’s life when the fact is he shouldn’t have been out on the streets.
He’s a menace to society and I can’t understand why he was allowed out when he had done this sort of thing so many times before. He should have been in jail instead of being behind the wheel of a car. He even had the gall to blame my daughter for causing the crash - he should serve the maximum 14 years for what he did to Tina.’
Manchester Crown Court heard that Pinnock, of Manchester, had failed to carry out a single hour of his community order for the previous offence and had continued to drive.
Sgt Jon White from the Road Policing Unit said: 'While police have no jurisdiction over what sentences judges pass, it is very frustrating when you see people come out of court free having been convicted of very serious offences.
‘Apart from the IRA bomb in Manchester, the aftermath of this crash was the worst scene of carnage I have ever come across in my career. The debris strewn across the road and the condition of the casualties made it look as thought it had been caused by a car bomb.’
Manchester Crown Court heard that on January 18 this year Pinnock was driving a friend’s VW Golf GTI at high speed and was spotted by an unmarked police patrol car as he drove towards them on the wrong side of the road. The officers turned round to follow but called off the chase as Pinnock sped off, jumped a red light and began wheelspinning the car three times round a roundabout.
As he came to a junction, he overtook a row of cars waiting at traffic lights and plowed head-on into Mrs Boucher’s car as she was waiting in traffic. The psychiatric nurse was thrown from the car and died instantly. The two passengers in the rear were also hurled from the vehicle and suffered brain injuries and fractured necks.
Pinnock and his friends ran off and he only gave himself up when police found his DNA on an airbag which had inflated on impact.
Outside court, Mrs Boucher’s daughter Samantha said: ‘Hurt, pain, anger and emptiness are four words that only just begin to describe the emotions and feelings I have since the death of my mother.’
Pinnock’s criminal record:
In 2002 he was sent to youth custody and given a five years ASBO for a series of offences involving criminal damage, racist abuse, assault, theft, intimidation and reckless driving.
In March 2004 he was given a detention and training order and a two-year ban for dangerous driving and aggravated vehicle taking.
In June 2006 he was back in court for driving in a stolen car and driving while banned - only to be given a suspended jail term.
In April 2007 he was ordered to complete 20 hours of community work for further driving offences.
In November 2007 he was hauled back into court after he lost control of a stolen Honda Civic and smashed into a parked car. Despite his criminal record he was let off with a community order, banned from driving for a year and given a six-week curfew
[quote]Sifu wrote:
The woman who was interviewed and released called someone to come and assault the deceased in front of witnesses. Getting someone to kill someone else (contract murder) is a crime here in the US. In Britain the cops will ask a few questions and let you go. The cops should have arrested the woman for inciting an act of violence that left someone dead.
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Yea, I read it a couple of times and I guess I don’t see where it says she arranged for the murder of the victim. Now if her boyfriend avoided being charged, that’s another thing.
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Sifu wrote:
The woman who was interviewed and released called someone to come and assault the deceased in front of witnesses. Getting someone to kill someone else (contract murder) is a crime here in the US. In Britain the cops will ask a few questions and let you go. The cops should have arrested the woman for inciting an act of violence that left someone dead.
Yea, I read it a couple of times and I guess I don’t see where it says she arranged for the murder of the victim. Now if her boyfriend avoided being charged, that’s another thing.
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It didn’t say she arranged his murder. She arranged the assault the resulted in murder. She called her boyfrined to come and assault the man who died from the assault. If she hadn’t incited the act of violence that killed the man he would still be alive.
Inciting violence is a crime there. She played a role in that murder so she should be held accountable.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
It didn’t say she arranged his murder. She arranged the assault the resulted in murder. She called her boyfrined to come and assault the man who died from the assault. If she hadn’t incited the act of violence that killed the man he would still be alive. Inciting violence is a crime there. She played a role in that murder so she should be held accountable.[/quote]
It says, “It is alleged his girlfriend summoned him to the store after she accused Mr Tripp of barging in front of her in the queue to pay.” Summoning to the store is not a crime and is not the same as arranging an assault. To import a tort concept, while there may be “but for” causation, proximate causation is lacking.
They have a new law in Britain that allows the police to imprison someone for 28 days without charge while they investigate. So it is not like they couldn’t have taken her into custody. I think with a man dead it would be the least they could do to grab everyone who played a part in the assault.
Rather than start a new thread, I’ll just add to this recent thread. Here’s an interview with a 70 year old man who killed 2 19 year old guys who tried to rob him. Given that it was Tennessee and the circumstances, he was not charged.
“For sure, there’s not a doubt in my mind that my wife and I would be dead if I didn’t do what I did, and I would do the same thing all over again,” Jackson said.
http://www.wlky.com/news/16509622/detail.html
According to the great aunt of one of the dead men, “It’s just something that he wouldn’t do and it’s been eating at me all night long. It’s like, no, that’s not Daz,” she said. “I don’t know if he was forced into doing it, but that is not my nephew.”
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Rather than start a new thread, I’ll just add to this recent thread. Here’s an interview with a 70 year old man who killed 2 19 year old guys who tried to rob him. Given that it was Tennessee and the circumstances, he was not charged.
“For sure, there’s not a doubt in my mind that my wife and I would be dead if I didn’t do what I did, and I would do the same thing all over again,” Jackson said.
http://www.wlky.com/news/16509622/detail.html
According to the great aunt of one of the dead men, “It’s just something that he wouldn’t do and it’s been eating at me all night long. It’s like, no, that’s not Daz,” she said. “I don’t know if he was forced into doing it, but that is not my nephew.”
http://www.wlky.com/news/16496348/detail.html [/quote]
That old man is lucky he is not in Britain. The government would destroy him just like they did to Mr Martin.
You left out the part where the thug whose aunt you quoted told his family he would be out of town for a while.
You also left out the part about the invaders having their own gun.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
Loose Tool wrote:
Rather than start a new thread, I’ll just add to this recent thread. Here’s an interview with a 70 year old man who killed 2 19 year old guys who tried to rob him. Given that it was Tennessee and the circumstances, he was not charged.
“For sure, there’s not a doubt in my mind that my wife and I would be dead if I didn’t do what I did, and I would do the same thing all over again,” Jackson said.
http://www.wlky.com/news/16509622/detail.html
According to the great aunt of one of the dead men, “It’s just something that he wouldn’t do and it’s been eating at me all night long. It’s like, no, that’s not Daz,” she said. “I don’t know if he was forced into doing it, but that is not my nephew.”
http://www.wlky.com/news/16496348/detail.html
That old man is lucky he is not in Britain. The government would destroy him just like they did to Mr Martin.
You left out the part where the thug whose aunt you quoted told his family he would be out of town for a while.
You also left out the part about the invaders having their own gun.[/quote]
And the part that one of them “was gunna” be a point guard in the NBA and a father for his kids. And their gun was stolen from the Louisville PD.
So what is your point?
The ghetto is full of kids who think they are going to be NBA stars even though there are only a couple hundred positions available. It sounds like he decided to take another course.
Telling his family he was going out of state for a while sounds like he was trying to set up an alibi.
Last but not least, this is America, those thugs knew the score. You don’t invade someones home armed with a gun and not expect to get shot. Which is a hell of a lot better than what they do in Britain. Over there they would be all weepy over it, the papers would be saying what a horrible old man to ambush and shoot those two teens invading his home armed with guns.
The American way where the elderly and women can have the means to protect themselves as well as anybody, is far superior to the British way where the only civilians able to have guns are the criminals.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
So what is your point?[/quote]
My point? My point was to present two videos. One humble and credible, the other typical of the “he was a nice boy, he’d never do that”.
Did you think I was defending these dead punks.
I didn’t know. In Britain they eat up the “he was a nice boy, he’d never do that” line like it is candy. Over there very few ever care about the victims.
It is just like the gun control nuts here don’t give a damn about the innocent people who have to suffer the consequences of gun control.
Here are some of todays latest viscious assaults from Britain.
Girl, 15, torched in gruesome attack by love rival who told her ‘You won’t be pretty anymore’
Schoolgirl ‘stabbed to death in fight with teenage rival over boy’