[quote]swivel wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Dude for a LankyMofo you’re actually pretty thick aren’t you ?
What’s with the personal insults? If this is the road you want to go, no problem. You’re a poopie head.
Once more…This isn’t about Baseball. Congress is involved. Mis-information about legit drugs is being propagated and public perceptions are being wrongly influenced on a massive scale. Doctors and Pharmacies are being compromised and men a suffering because of it.
Ok. I’m talking about baseball. And all I’m saying is that if steroids are illegal in BASEBALL, then I don’t care what other conditions, diseases, malfunctions, dysfunctions you have, you shouldn’t be using steroids. Period.
You are saying that there are no grey areas;
I’m saying baseball attempts to make it so there are no grey areas. They have rules and if you violate them, you get suspended. I think this is the right thing to do.
You are saying that the rules of baseball are more important than the relationship between a man and his Doctor. This is just wrong.
Lol, where did I say this? Are you even reading? First you interpret my statement about the rules of BASEBALL (isn’t that what we’re talking about?) to law enforcement and kids being tested in little league, now you’re coming up with this? Man, you really are a poopie head.
I’m saying that if a doctor thinks it’s best that a baseball player use a substance that is on the banned substance list for the MLB, it’s the players choice to do what he wants. He can choose baseball or choose the (hopefully) successful treatment of whatever disorder he may have. No one in this country is granted the right to play baseball for a living.
I’m sorry you have a shitty job.
I don’t have a shitty job, I have a good job making pretty good money. Random drug testing doesn’t change that because they are the rules of my company that I knew before I signed up (willfully) to work here. No biggie.
But this doesn’t mean everyone else has to have shitty jobs also. My advice is you should work hard to change that,you could work for yourself if you wanted to. There are no laws against that, but when enough people start thinking like you do I suppose there will be. Until then, there is opportunity and freedom available in this country; opportunity and freedom that we are losing bit by bit. Your attitude on this is frightening.
I don’t want to change where I work. I like it here. You’re making way too many assumptions about my job and where I work based on the fact that they have random drug testing. Like I said, every employee here is aware of that fact before they sign up to work here. Don’t like the rules? Get a different job!
BTW Baseball is a game that’s worked for our country as a past-time for so long precisely because of the freedoms involved, because of the grey areas which are such a welcome escape from the shitty, rigid world of black and white. Time is a grey area in baseball; there are no clocks. The strike zone is a grey area; Umps can call them tight or loose and players have the ability to influence the calls with their own personal style. Morality is also grey; You can steal, you can decoy, you can lie and cheat and deceive and if you’re good enough at all of that you can get yourself into the hall of fame alongside Babe Ruth who used illegal drugs for his entire career.
I don’t even know what you’re getting at here. Is this supposed to be logical thinking?
Bonez replies are pretty intelligent and he’s actually reading what I’m writing. I think we’re actually making some progress. But you, well, if you come back with another retarded response like this that doesn’t show any trace of logic, nor shows that you’re reading what I’m writing, I’m going to respond by calling you a poopie head and that’s it. That way you’ll know I’ve read your response and deemed it unworthy of my time.
The culture of Baseball is analogous to the culture of our country.
MLB (the owners)is changing the rules as they go so they can make money and they are using the public, myopic people like you, so that they can get richer. It’s now to the point where rules in Baseball are being used to shape the laws we live by.
The primary collateral damage of this is simultaneous erosions of the freedoms and culture that have made the game so great for so long, and the freedoms of Doctors to treat their patients.
You cannot limit your arguement exclusively to baseball because the two, rules of baseball and laws of the USA are now related- similar how markets for food and fuel are now related. That is what this thread is about.
Once again, your attitude that it’s ok for someone, no matter what they do for a living, to be forced to chose between their job and medical treatment is really frightening.
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If this is all you’re getting at, I still don’t understand why you’re blaming MLB.
And like I said, no one is born with the right to play baseball for a living. With any rule some people are going to get the short end of the stick, that’s life. We can’t make rules according to exceptions.