Man Kills Teen Who Knocked Him Off Bike

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]dirtbag wrote:

[quote]limburg wrote:

This is why I want to shoot more…

If it happened to me it would be 3 dead, no wounded.[/quote]

This is the way the law should be …someone fucks with you … you take them out

Kids would be more respectful that is for sure.
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one of the comments after the article was “an armed society is a polite society…”

I’m sure there will be people with a different persepctive and counter-points, but for the most part I agree with that

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Yeah, but there’s always the “When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail” view.

lol
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That quote belongs in SAMA

When you attack someone, you are risking your own life. It seems people don’t understand this.

We also live in an age where being old and weak does virtually nothing to hamper one’s lethality. It seems people don’t understand this either.

Well, I suppose if aspiring youth criminals don’t figure this out on their own, natural selection will sort it out for them.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]dirtbag wrote:

[quote]limburg wrote:

This is why I want to shoot more…

If it happened to me it would be 3 dead, no wounded.[/quote]

This is the way the law should be …someone fucks with you … you take them out

Kids would be more respectful that is for sure.
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one of the comments after the article was “an armed society is a polite society…”

I’m sure there will be people with a different persepctive and counter-points, but for the most part I agree with that

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Yeah, but there’s always the “When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail” view.

lol
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Hammers are very versatile!!

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]dirtbag wrote:

[quote]limburg wrote:

This is why I want to shoot more…

If it happened to me it would be 3 dead, no wounded.[/quote]

This is the way the law should be …someone fucks with you … you take them out

Kids would be more respectful that is for sure.
[/quote]

one of the comments after the article was “an armed society is a polite society…”

I’m sure there will be people with a different persepctive and counter-points, but for the most part I agree with that

[/quote]

Yeah, but there’s always the “When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail” view.

lol
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Hammers are very versatile!![/quote]

I would’ve done the same. Also they weren’t “kids” or “children”, they were legal minors, a big difference. Kids or children aren’t big and strong enough to knock you off a bike and attempt to beat and rob you.

As a young guy who has had the personal experience of a friend getting shot I don’t ‘admire’ what this old man did. However, I don’t condemn him either. I understand he was probably scarred and rife with adrenaline, which caused him to react the way he did. But I bet he will regret killing the kid for a long time.

I grew up in a rough neighbourhood and knew some people that made bad decisions. When you’re young (especially 15-16-17) you make mistakes that you look back on and regret. I feel bad that the young man who was killed made a bad decision and had to pay for it with his life.

One less creep the world didn’t need. Good for this older guy!

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
As a young guy who has had the personal experience of a friend getting shot I don’t ‘admire’ what this old man did. However, I don’t condemn him either. I understand he was probably scarred and rife with adrenaline, which caused him to react the way he did. But I bet he will regret killing the kid for a long time.

I grew up in a rough neighbourhood and knew some people that made bad decisions. When you’re young (especially 15-16-17) you make mistakes that you look back on and regret. I feel bad that the young man who was killed made a bad decision and had to pay for it with his life. [/quote]

That’s the problem with bad decisions. you can always chose your actions, but you have no right to chose the consequences.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
As a young guy who has had the personal experience of a friend getting shot I don’t ‘admire’ what this old man did. However, I don’t condemn him either. I understand he was probably scarred and rife with adrenaline, which caused him to react the way he did. But I bet he will regret killing the kid for a long time.

I grew up in a rough neighbourhood and knew some people that made bad decisions. When you’re young (especially 15-16-17) you make mistakes that you look back on and regret. I feel bad that the young man who was killed made a bad decision and had to pay for it with his life. [/quote]

Bad choice= Skipping school, underage drinking, sneaking girl into basement while parents upstairs sleep.
Felony=Assault and strongarm robbery

That was more than a “bad choice” especially when they attacked two elderly men beforehand. Sad to say, but it could actually turn out to be a good thing for everyone else that the guy was shot, who knows how many people were saved from being robbed or killed.

Would we let a wild bear roam free in a big city and just maul people at will? No we wouldn’t. We would put it in a zoo or it would get put down. And actually, I have more sympathy for the wild bear being shot, because the bear is just being a bear. These “teens” should have enough sense not to be out beating and robbing random people.

[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
As a young guy who has had the personal experience of a friend getting shot I don’t ‘admire’ what this old man did. However, I don’t condemn him either. I understand he was probably scarred and rife with adrenaline, which caused him to react the way he did. But I bet he will regret killing the kid for a long time.

I grew up in a rough neighbourhood and knew some people that made bad decisions. When you’re young (especially 15-16-17) you make mistakes that you look back on and regret. I feel bad that the young man who was killed made a bad decision and had to pay for it with his life. [/quote]

Bad choice= Skipping school, underage drinking, sneaking girl into basement while parents upstairs sleep.
Felony=Assault and strongarm robbery

That was more than a “bad choice” especially when they attacked two elderly men beforehand. Sad to say, but it could actually turn out to be a good thing for everyone else that the guy was shot, who knows how many people were saved from being robbed or killed.

Would we let a wild bear roam free in a big city and just maul people at will? No we wouldn’t. We would put it in a zoo or it would get put down. And actually, I have more sympathy for the wild bear being shot, because the bear is just being a bear. These “teens” should have enough sense not to be out beating and robbing random people.[/quote]

very well said.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
As a young guy who has had the personal experience of a friend getting shot I don’t ‘admire’ what this old man did. However, I don’t condemn him either. I understand he was probably scarred and rife with adrenaline, which caused him to react the way he did. But I bet he will regret killing the kid for a long time.

I grew up in a rough neighbourhood and knew some people that made bad decisions. When you’re young (especially 15-16-17) you make mistakes that you look back on and regret. I feel bad that the young man who was killed made a bad decision and had to pay for it with his life. [/quote]

I agree. I think the geriatric was within his rights to use lethal force, but it’s nothing to celebrate. A sixteen year old is a child. A child made the wrong decision and was killed. Unless somebody can prove that a person is incapable of moral change at the age of sixteen then this is a tragedy.

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
As a young guy who has had the personal experience of a friend getting shot I don’t ‘admire’ what this old man did. However, I don’t condemn him either. I understand he was probably scarred and rife with adrenaline, which caused him to react the way he did. But I bet he will regret killing the kid for a long time.

I grew up in a rough neighbourhood and knew some people that made bad decisions. When you’re young (especially 15-16-17) you make mistakes that you look back on and regret. I feel bad that the young man who was killed made a bad decision and had to pay for it with his life. [/quote]

I agree. I think the geriatric was within his rights to use lethal force, but it’s nothing to celebrate. A sixteen year old is a child. A child made the wrong decision and was killed. Unless somebody can prove that a person is incapable of moral change at the age of sixteen then this is a tragedy. [/quote]

See page one for my post on “child” vs legal minor. This guy was a legal minor (for the purpose of signing contracts) not a “child”.

Ramzpaul talks about how we all make “bad choices”.

[quote]Ambugaton wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
As a young guy who has had the personal experience of a friend getting shot I don’t ‘admire’ what this old man did. However, I don’t condemn him either. I understand he was probably scarred and rife with adrenaline, which caused him to react the way he did. But I bet he will regret killing the kid for a long time.

I grew up in a rough neighbourhood and knew some people that made bad decisions. When you’re young (especially 15-16-17) you make mistakes that you look back on and regret. I feel bad that the young man who was killed made a bad decision and had to pay for it with his life. [/quote]

I agree. I think the geriatric was within his rights to use lethal force, but it’s nothing to celebrate. A sixteen year old is a child. A child made the wrong decision and was killed. Unless somebody can prove that a person is incapable of moral change at the age of sixteen then this is a tragedy. [/quote]

It hasn’t been a very long time since I was 16, but I have to say that I’ve changed a lot in the last three years, and most people my age that I know have as well. 3 years ago, I was considerably less mature, more hot-headed, and much less conscious of the consequences of my actions.

This meant that I fought with my parents and didn’t do my homework. I didn’t repeatedly rob old men with a couple of buddies. 16 year olds are NOT children, as someone said earlier. They may not be fully cognitively developed, but they certainly know that it’s wrong to assault and rob anyone (let alone an old man, who they presumably targeted because he was old and therefore likely to be less able to defend himself).

While no, it’s not an event to celebrate, I wouldn’t call it a tragedy by any stretch- it’s just natural selection in action. If you live somewhere that permits concealed carry, you must assume (as another poster said earlier) that someone might be carrying. Did the teens involved consider this? probably not. But they should have, and they paid for their oversight.

I would call this a poor choice, of similar kind to skipping school, sneaking girls into the basement, or whatever. It differs only in degree. But if everyone had to take responsibility for their poor choices, maybe we would all think a little harder before choosing.

I love how everyone is like natural slection blah blah blah They were children not adults, they cant drink for another 6 years but they can be shot??

[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
I love how everyone is like natural slection blah blah blah They were children not adults, they cant drink for another 6 years but they can be shot?? [/quote]

yes

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
I love how everyone is like natural slection blah blah blah They were children not adults, they cant drink for another 6 years but they can be shot?? [/quote]

Would you make it illegal for that man to do what he did then?

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Shooting people? Im pretty sure thats already illegal…

[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
I love how everyone is like natural slection blah blah blah They were children not adults, they cant drink for another 6 years but they can be shot?? [/quote]

Unless autistic, by 16 you sure as shit know that knocking the elderly off a bike and then stomping on them is wrong. Very wrong.