[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]worzel wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]dude-dilly squat wrote:
Are the Jews the most hated people?
Everybody hates the Jews right?
Also, I am 25% Jew. But I had a friend say that saying you are 25% Jew is like saying you are 25% black.
I found this very funny because it’s so insulting on so many levels.[/quote]
No, Americans are the most hated people.[/quote]
I thought it was the french. Even the french hate the french.[/quote]
It’s my impression that outside of the Americas all countries hate us except Israel and Great Britain.[/quote]
Most countries are just jealous of America. I say that as an Israeli.
America is made of all the shit people that were either kicked out of various countries, were so poor that getting on a boat with nothing was better than staying put, criminals, weaker tribes of blacks that were rounded up by stronger tribes and sold, or hunter-gatherers that were driven over the Bering Strait because they sucked at warfare.
The dregs of the world.
And yet, together, you absolutely dominate. Fuck the World. Good for you.[/quote]
Every israeli I have ever met has the most idiotic views on race.[/quote]
That’s OK, everyone from Missouri I have ever met had deep sexual thoughts about their mother.
Seriously, race? Not in the post.[/quote]
Ok maybe previous experiences colored my reading of your post. But its certainly a skewed and presumptious view of history.
America was not the penal colony Australia was althogh if memory serves there were areas that did serve that function. Some of the first settlers of America were seeking religous freedom. A great many more sought economic advancement. After white civilization got a toe hold most immigrants sought economic opportunity. Land was free and soil was rich. Same in australia. A ship to australia at the right time of colonization was a winning lottery ticket.
Slaves came from all kinds of tribes, not just weak ones.
You have no idea why people came over the bering strait. It could have been any number of pressures from curiosity to famine.
Wasnt dregs is my point.[/quote]
I agree with Eli B here!
Jewbaca’ that is the one of biggest horseshit statements I have read here in a while! Dregs of the World, c’mon?
Criminals? What is your interpretation of a criminal from the 1700’s? Children were hanged for stealing back then! You could get sent to a colony for cutting down a tree for fucksake! Are these the dregs of the world you are talking about?
Weaker black tribes, fuckoff! This is a MASSIVE generalisation, where do you get your information?
You said…‘America is made of all the shit people…so poor that getting on a boat with nothing was better than staying put’. Are you assuming that because they had nothing they were ‘shit people’ that they were somehow ‘lesser’ than those around them? How about FAMINE or RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION?
You seem to know what constitutes ‘shit people’ please give me an example?[/quote]
I am thinking my English is not clear here. (I am not a native English speaker.)
It’s a COMPLIMENT.
No, I do not think Americans are ACTUALLY dregs.
I am stating the people in the places whereever Americans came from either treated soon-to-be-immigrant Americans (from whereever) as dregs.
And they were WRONG.
Basically, most everyone came the USA because they were either desperate or forced to come here — famine, war, religious persecution, whatever — most overwhelmingly, desperate, poor, despised peoples.
And here, these “losers” in the eyes of the world (again, a view I do not share) have become the greatest country and the greatest people in the world.
Europe, et al, still sniffs at Americans as “common”, like they [the Europeans] are “superior.”
Well, I say sniff at Americans all they want. Americans and America rock.[/quote]
Fair enough, if you say English isnt your first language thats cool but ‘shit people’ is a bold statement and so to is ‘dregs of the world’.
When people emigrate they do so for the most part in the search for something better and this applies across the board. Whether it be in the 1700’s or now. In a lot of instances you could say ‘desperate people’ but ‘despised’ is not even in the same ballpark!
In cases that I am aware of, the despised people that are forced to emigrate are the ones usually at the receiving end of some sort of oppression. In my History it would be the English over the Irish or the most obvious case would be the Nazi’s hatred of the Jewish people. These oppressors, ironically are the despised people, funny isnt it!
This leads me to your statement ‘Losers in the eyes of the world’ who is this world you are talking about, I am confused? Is it the people who have the most resources/power/wealth like the landed gentry in Ireland past or the Nazi fucks in Germany?
Man you got to read something about immigration trends into to the Untied States or any country for that matter and understand the multitude of circumstances that forced these people to move in the first place?
I am well aware of native Africans and their role in the slave trade. I am also well aware that dominant groups of people enslave weaker people and this has been going on from time immemorial. Stating weaker black tribes etc. like it is the only fact is exaggerating the complicated fucked up thing the slave trade grew into and deserves to be questioned.
BTW I am not American and I dont look down on the dumb yanks 
