I’ve been looking for someone who throws a lot of jabs (effective) and someone made a reference of the man paulie malignaggi which I agree. I’ve been watching his fights lately and man he throws A LOT of jabs,not just flicker and tapping jabs but actually jabs to land. Usually up jabs and combines that w/ feints also.
Question is what else do you think is the reason for his successful jab through out the years? And do you think this is a must add to your game? ie; increasing jab output
Malignaggi is a very good technician.
He would never had made it to world level had he been reliant on his physicality.
As he was never a puncher he was forced to hone his craft. I have no doubt but that he is one of the most diligent, astute pros around.
And yes, I feel the jab is a must add to your game, but throwing it effectively, not just for volume.
[quote]donnydarkoirl wrote:
And yes, I feel the jab is a must add to your game, but throwing it effectively, not just for volume.[/quote]
Very broad question but in your eyes what is throwing the jab effectively? Not just for volume
“If you can’t jab, you can’t fight”-Old boxing adage that I got from GM Joe Lewis
The jab is the most important punch in boxing (striking in general); everything works off of it and if you fail to establish it and utilize it effectively, then IMO you will most likely never reach your potential.
That doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t adjust to your opponent’s defensive habits, or throw other punches, just that a good educated jab sets the table for all of your power shots, keeps the opponent having to react to you (and thus gives you some measure of control), and is the fastest, both in execution and recovery (and therefore safest to throw) weapon that you have; so you should use it a lot.
[quote]shs101 wrote:
Very broad question but in your eyes what is throwing the jab effectively? Not just for volume[/quote]
No man, thats a good question.
I don’t think any punch should be thrown if it is not anticipated to land.
But the jab particularly is thrown with a purpose;
(starting an attack/ defense/ drawing a reaction)
For this to work the boxer must intend for the jab to score cleanly on his opponent. The punch is timed and placed; like a building block.
To go out with the mindset “I must throw more jabs than my opponent,” would sacrifice a concentration on quality, precision and accuracy.
Just my opinion.
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In my mind replying to this post I was remembering JMM vs. Juan Diaz. One of my favourite recent fights!
I also concur with both Irish & Sentoguy.
Larry Holmes made wonderful use of the jab - at a relatively high output.
Malingaggi’s jab is good technically but like everything else about him, it’s weak, and therefore not nearly as effective as it could be.
If you want a good jab look at Lennox Lewis. Not only kept monsters like Tyson at bay, but also set up monster shots to follow.
[quote]shs101 wrote:
[quote]donnydarkoirl wrote:
And yes, I feel the jab is a must add to your game, but throwing it effectively, not just for volume.[/quote]
Very broad question but in your eyes what is throwing the jab effectively? Not just for volume[/quote]
Like Donny said, the jab has to be thrown with purpose. That doesn’t always mean that purpose is for the punch to land (it could be to draw out your opponents defensive habits, to stabilize him so you can safely regain a safe range at the end of a combination, to smother his jab, to pin his hand/open his guard, maintain distance, etc…). You should seek to establish that your jab is something to be respected (and even feared) and that you can and will land it if your opponent does not defend it properly. That will start to give you control of the fight and a window into how to start dismantling your opponent’s defenses and start landing your power shots.
instead of making a new thread I was curious as to what everyone here thinks of andre ward as a fighter??? and to stay on topic with the jab what do you think of his fencing style? Seems to work very well for him the way he uses that lead arm.
Ward is a terrific fighter. Really really good.
I watched a lot of him as an amateur, but haven’t followed him as a pro.
He gave Froch a comprehensive beating and looking very astute doing so.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Malingaggi’s jab is good technically but like everything else about him, it’s weak, and therefore not nearly as effective as it could be.
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Tell us how you really feel. Don’t hold back.
So were you rooting for the lighting to collapse on the ring when he fought Kahn?
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If you want a good jab look at Lennox Lewis. Not only kept monsters like Tyson at bay, but also set up monster shots to follow. [/quote]
A lot of folks under rate Lewis. If he wasn’t “all that” Bowe wouldn’t have thrown one of his belts in the trash rather than fight him, and Holyfield wouldn’t have ducked him for so long.
I actually think Sonny Liston had a very under rated jab as well.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
[quote]shs101 wrote:
[quote]donnydarkoirl wrote:
And yes, I feel the jab is a must add to your game, but throwing it effectively, not just for volume.[/quote]
Very broad question but in your eyes what is throwing the jab effectively? Not just for volume[/quote]
Like Donny said, the jab has to be thrown with purpose. That doesn’t always mean that purpose is for the punch to land (it could be to draw out your opponents defensive habits, to stabilize him so you can safely regain a safe range at the end of a combination, to smother his jab, to pin his hand/open his guard, maintain distance, etc…). You should seek to establish that your jab is something to be respected (and even feared) and that you can and will land it if your opponent does not defend it properly. That will start to give you control of the fight and a window into how to start dismantling your opponent’s defenses and start landing your power shots.[/quote]
I think establishing a jab is as close to having an “easy button” in a fight as possible, especially outside of the ring.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]Robert A wrote:
Tell us how you really feel. Don’t hold back.
So were you rooting for the lighting to collapse on the ring when he fought Kahn?
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Haha. Believe it or not, I like Pitter-Patter-Paulie. I’ve met him before, know people that like him, and he’s actually a very, very good announcer.
I can’t stand his boxing style - guys with no power to me are just no fun to watch - but I’ve softened my stance on him lately. I just look past his crazy bullshit when he says that he’s going to “hurt” a guy or beat his ass. It’s kinda like… c’mon bro… you can’t crack an egg.
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A lot of folks under rate Lewis. If he wasn’t “all that” Bowe wouldn’t have thrown one of his belts in the trash rather than fight him, and Holyfield wouldn’t have ducked him for so long.
I actually think Sonny Liston had a very under rated jab as well.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Liston definitely had a jab. Very good one. Ali too, although he didn’t always use it.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
I think establishing a jab is as close to having an “easy button” in a fight as possible, especially outside of the ring.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Absolutely. Sometimes even if you box you forget how important that punch is until you watch a guy who can really use it, and you see how it totally confounds his opponent’s plan. I love watching a good jabber at work, and even though it’s not as much fun as the big punches, it often leads to some brutality down the line.
Damn my short arms… damn them.
Yeah I dig Paulie, but can’t stand to watch him fight. Although some of the early rounds against Broner were quite impressive.
Given his background and culture, he’s a surprisingly astute guy which translates well to announcing. It also means he can shit talk people really well, broner’s voice cracking like a pubescent boy during the whole build up to their match was gold.
I’ll just leave this here.
And then…
Paulie’s got a good jab. He needs it, because he sure doesn’t have the right hand!
My go to guy for the jab for me is always Oscar. That guy used his jab beautifully. The feints, the double jab, the stiff jab, jabbing from different guards, coming forward, going back, I mean you name it.
Quite like Malinaggi, but damn, did he get slapped about last week…