Malaysian Airlines Plane Shot Down over Ukraine

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Locating the Black Box would be a start…[/quote]

An actual investigation by non-biased personnel would help as well. As it stands, I would not trust any investigation done by Ukraine, Russia, and/or Separatists.[/quote]

Yeah right. It was shot down in separatist territory where several other aircraft have been shot down recently and a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.[/quote]

Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.[/quote]

What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.[/quote]

Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?
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No I don’t. Do you like to make dumb comments without even knowing anything about what you’re commenting on? They thought they’d shot down another Ukrainian military aircraft. When they realised they’d shot down a commercial airliner they removed the tweet. It was subsequently retrieved via google cache.[/quote]

You believed every word of it.

You referred to the guy as “a Cossack” then acted like me calling him anonymous was ignorance. Meanwhile, you’re googling like your life depended on it in between posts to win an e-argument.

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I’m googling like my life depended on it between posts? I’ve only posted a single link in the whole thread. What are you talking about dude?

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
What is the motive for Russia or Ukraine to shoot down a commercial plane? [/quote]

None. This is pretty simple stuff. The Russian separatists have been shooting down Ukrainian military aircraft. They shot down a commercial airliner by mistake thinking it was a Ukrainian military aircraft.[/quote]

If you can operate a missile system with those capabilities, you’ll be able to differentiate between commercial and military.

Why would a Ukrainian military plane be at that altitude, on that heading?

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[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
What is the motive for Russia or Ukraine to shoot down a commercial plane? [/quote]

None. This is pretty simple stuff. The Russian separatists have been shooting down Ukrainian military aircraft. They shot down a commercial airliner by mistake thinking it was a Ukrainian military aircraft.[/quote]

If you can operate a missile system with those capabilities, you’ll be able to differentiate between commercial and military.

Why would a Ukrainian military plane be at that altitude, on that heading?
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It’s not inconceivable that the Buk operator did not recognise that the radar signature and transponder signal were from a commercial airliner.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Locating the Black Box would be a start…[/quote]

An actual investigation by non-biased personnel would help as well. As it stands, I would not trust any investigation done by Ukraine, Russia, and/or Separatists.[/quote]

Yeah right. It was shot down in separatist territory where several other aircraft have been shot down recently and a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.[/quote]

Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.[/quote]

What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.[/quote]

Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?
[/quote]

No I don’t. Do you like to make dumb comments without even knowing anything about what you’re commenting on? They thought they’d shot down another Ukrainian military aircraft. When they realised they’d shot down a commercial airliner they removed the tweet. It was subsequently retrieved via google cache.[/quote]

You believed every word of it.

You referred to the guy as “a Cossack” then acted like me calling him anonymous was ignorance. Meanwhile, you’re googling like your life depended on it in between posts to win an e-argument.

[/quote]

I’m googling like my life depended on it between posts? I’ve only posted a single link in the whole thread. What are you talking about dude?
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Don’t play innocent. You wrote two vague posts on the topic and suddenly developed an intimate knowledge of the situation, then had the nerve to call me out for being uninformed. It wouldn’t be so bad if you didn’t contradict yourself. Quite honestly, if you knew all this at the start you’d have it posted the first time.

So yeah, there’s so much virtual assistance here that you need to take a Turing test.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Locating the Black Box would be a start…[/quote]

An actual investigation by non-biased personnel would help as well. As it stands, I would not trust any investigation done by Ukraine, Russia, and/or Separatists.[/quote]

Yeah right. It was shot down in separatist territory where several other aircraft have been shot down recently and a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.[/quote]

Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.[/quote]

What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.[/quote]

Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?
[/quote]

No I don’t. Do you like to make dumb comments without even knowing anything about what you’re commenting on? They thought they’d shot down another Ukrainian military aircraft. When they realised they’d shot down a commercial airliner they removed the tweet. It was subsequently retrieved via google cache.[/quote]

You believed every word of it.

You referred to the guy as “a Cossack” then acted like me calling him anonymous was ignorance. Meanwhile, you’re googling like your life depended on it in between posts to win an e-argument.

[/quote]

I’m googling like my life depended on it between posts? I’ve only posted a single link in the whole thread. What are you talking about dude?
[/quote]

Don’t play innocent. You wrote two vague posts on the topic and suddenly developed an intimate knowledge of the situation, then had the nerve to call me out for being uninformed. It wouldn’t be so bad if you didn’t contradict yourself. Quite honestly, if you knew all this at the start you’d have it posted the first time.

So yeah, there’s so much virtual assistance here that you need to take a Turing test.
[/quote]

Lol. I think you must be mistaking me for another poster. My very first post stated that it was Russian separatists and I provided the source.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Locating the Black Box would be a start…[/quote]

An actual investigation by non-biased personnel would help as well. As it stands, I would not trust any investigation done by Ukraine, Russia, and/or Separatists.[/quote]

Yeah right. It was shot down in separatist territory where several other aircraft have been shot down recently and a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.[/quote]

Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.[/quote]

What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.[/quote]

Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?
[/quote]

No I don’t. Do you like to make dumb comments without even knowing anything about what you’re commenting on? They thought they’d shot down another Ukrainian military aircraft. When they realised they’d shot down a commercial airliner they removed the tweet. It was subsequently retrieved via google cache.[/quote]

You believed every word of it.

You referred to the guy as “a Cossack” then acted like me calling him anonymous was ignorance. Meanwhile, you’re googling like your life depended on it in between posts to win an e-argument.

[/quote]

I’m googling like my life depended on it between posts? I’ve only posted a single link in the whole thread. What are you talking about dude?
[/quote]

Don’t play innocent. You wrote two vague posts on the topic and suddenly developed an intimate knowledge of the situation, then had the nerve to call me out for being uninformed. It wouldn’t be so bad if you didn’t contradict yourself. Quite honestly, if you knew all this at the start you’d have it posted the first time.

So yeah, there’s so much virtual assistance here that you need to take a Turing test.
[/quote]

Lol. I think you must be mistaking me for another poster. My very first post stated that it was Russian separatists and I provided the source.
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Sexmachine: a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.

Roybot: Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.

Sexmachine: What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.

Roybot: Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?

Sexmachine: No I don’t.

Roybot: Apology accepted.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Locating the Black Box would be a start…[/quote]

An actual investigation by non-biased personnel would help as well. As it stands, I would not trust any investigation done by Ukraine, Russia, and/or Separatists.[/quote]

Yeah right. It was shot down in separatist territory where several other aircraft have been shot down recently and a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.[/quote]

Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.[/quote]

What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.[/quote]

Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?
[/quote]

No I don’t. Do you like to make dumb comments without even knowing anything about what you’re commenting on? They thought they’d shot down another Ukrainian military aircraft. When they realised they’d shot down a commercial airliner they removed the tweet. It was subsequently retrieved via google cache.[/quote]

You believed every word of it.

You referred to the guy as “a Cossack” then acted like me calling him anonymous was ignorance. Meanwhile, you’re googling like your life depended on it in between posts to win an e-argument.

[/quote]

I’m googling like my life depended on it between posts? I’ve only posted a single link in the whole thread. What are you talking about dude?
[/quote]

Don’t play innocent. You wrote two vague posts on the topic and suddenly developed an intimate knowledge of the situation, then had the nerve to call me out for being uninformed. It wouldn’t be so bad if you didn’t contradict yourself. Quite honestly, if you knew all this at the start you’d have it posted the first time.

So yeah, there’s so much virtual assistance here that you need to take a Turing test.
[/quote]

Lol. I think you must be mistaking me for another poster. My very first post stated that it was Russian separatists and I provided the source.
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Sexmachine: a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.

Roybot: Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.

Sexmachine: What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.

Roybot: Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?

Sexmachine: No I don’t.

Roybot: Apology accepted. [/quote]

Are you deliberately trying to misrepresent the dialogue? In my very first post I provided a link to a story about how the separatist commander thought he’d shot down a Ukrainian military aircraft and bragged about it on twitter. You failed to read the link and asked:

Roybot: “Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial airliner?”

And I said:

SexMachine: "No I don’t…They thought they’d shot down another Ukrainian military aircraft. When they realised they’d shot down a commercial airliner they removed the tweet. It was subsequently retrieved via google cache.

Why did cut that out of your quote and deliberately misrepresent what was said?

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Locating the Black Box would be a start…[/quote]

An actual investigation by non-biased personnel would help as well. As it stands, I would not trust any investigation done by Ukraine, Russia, and/or Separatists.[/quote]

Yeah right. It was shot down in separatist territory where several other aircraft have been shot down recently and a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.[/quote]

Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.[/quote]

What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.[/quote]

Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?
[/quote]

No I don’t. Do you like to make dumb comments without even knowing anything about what you’re commenting on? They thought they’d shot down another Ukrainian military aircraft. When they realised they’d shot down a commercial airliner they removed the tweet. It was subsequently retrieved via google cache.[/quote]

You believed every word of it.

You referred to the guy as “a Cossack” then acted like me calling him anonymous was ignorance. Meanwhile, you’re googling like your life depended on it in between posts to win an e-argument.

[/quote]

I’m googling like my life depended on it between posts? I’ve only posted a single link in the whole thread. What are you talking about dude?
[/quote]

Don’t play innocent. You wrote two vague posts on the topic and suddenly developed an intimate knowledge of the situation, then had the nerve to call me out for being uninformed. It wouldn’t be so bad if you didn’t contradict yourself. Quite honestly, if you knew all this at the start you’d have it posted the first time.

So yeah, there’s so much virtual assistance here that you need to take a Turing test.
[/quote]

Lol. I think you must be mistaking me for another poster. My very first post stated that it was Russian separatists and I provided the source.
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Sexmachine: a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.

Roybot: Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.

Sexmachine: What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.

Roybot: Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?

Sexmachine: No I don’t.

Roybot: Apology accepted. [/quote]

Are you deliberately trying to misrepresent the dialogue? In my very first post I provided a link to a story about how the separatist commander thought he’d shot down a Ukrainian military aircraft and bragged about it on twitter. You failed to read the link and asked:

Roybot: “Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial airliner?”

And I said:

SexMachine: "No I don’t…They thought they’d shot down another Ukrainian military aircraft. When they realised they’d shot down a commercial airliner they removed the tweet. It was subsequently retrieved via google cache.

Why did cut that out of your quote and deliberately misrepresent what was said?

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So the crux of your argument is that he only tweeted it because he thought it was a military aircraft?

You are still clinging to the idea that a military commander is going to boast about shooting down a plane (any plane) on Twitter. Think about what you’re saying.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Locating the Black Box would be a start…[/quote]

An actual investigation by non-biased personnel would help as well. As it stands, I would not trust any investigation done by Ukraine, Russia, and/or Separatists.[/quote]

Yeah right. It was shot down in separatist territory where several other aircraft have been shot down recently and a Cossack bragged about shooting down a plane shortly after it happened then deleted his post when the shit hit the fan.[/quote]

Anonymous guy posts bullshit on the internet? It must be true then.[/quote]

What are you talking about? It was posted by Igor Strelkov, the separatist military commander on Twitter.[/quote]

Do you honestly think a separatist military commander is going to fucking tweet about shooting down a commercial plane?
[/quote]

No I don’t. Do you like to make dumb comments without even knowing anything about what you’re commenting on? They thought they’d shot down another Ukrainian military aircraft. When they realised they’d shot down a commercial airliner they removed the tweet. It was subsequently retrieved via google cache.[/quote]

You believed every word of it.

You referred to the guy as “a Cossack” then acted like me calling him anonymous was ignorance. Meanwhile, you’re googling like your life depended on it in between posts to win an e-argument.

[/quote]

I’m googling like my life depended on it between posts? I’ve only posted a single link in the whole thread. What are you talking about dude?
[/quote]

Two in one post here:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

Exactly. Terrorist groups claim credit for stuff they didn’t actually do all the time. As of right now, there is no real evidence to implicate anybody at all.

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Ha ha ha! Funny guy.

Ruskies smuggle launcher back to Russia:

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Now that that has been said, when people start trying to pass off conjecture and hypothetical scenarios as facts in order to compare my homeland to Nazis in a serious manner as happened a couple of posts above I think it is time for me to find a new place to post. [/quote]

How could anyone accuse the Russians of shooting down a commercial airliner?

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007[/quote]

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[quote]roybot wrote:

So the crux of your argument is that he only tweeted it because he thought it was a military aircraft?

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The penny drops.

Uh…yeah. It’s not “my idea.” It’s in google cache from the separatist’s twitter account. And they’ve done it before:

"Vladislav Brig, a spokesman for one of the separatist groups in eastern Ukraine, said in a telephone interview that rebel fighters had shot rockets at two or three Ukrainian fighter jets on Wednesday evening. "

And here’s a video they posted of another Ukrainian military aircraft they shot down on June 6:

And a video of another one they shot down ten days later:

And here on June 29 the separatists bragged about capturing a Buk launcher:

http://www.itar-tass.com/world/738262

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[quote]roybot wrote:

Two in one post here:

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Nope. The first link is a repost of the link I posted on page 1. I posted it again because people responding(such as yourself) clearly didn’t read it. The second link had nothing to do with the Malaysian airline crash(it was a link about a Korean airliner shot down in 1983.) As I said, I have only posted one link about the Malaysian airline crash in the entire thread.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Two in one post here:

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Nope. The first link is a repost of the link I posted on page 1. I posted it again because people responding(such as yourself) clearly didn’t read it. The second link had nothing to do with the Malaysian airline crash(it was a link about a Korean airliner shot down in 1983.) As I said, I have only posted one link about the Malaysian airline crash in the entire thread.[/quote]

Time to hug it out.

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Maybe Dr Matt could translate this obviously fake telephone exchange for us:

:slight_smile:

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[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Two in one post here:

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Nope. The first link is a repost of the link I posted on page 1. I posted it again because people responding(such as yourself) clearly didn’t read it. The second link had nothing to do with the Malaysian airline crash(it was a link about a Korean airliner shot down in 1983.) As I said, I have only posted one link about the Malaysian airline crash in the entire thread.[/quote]

Time to hug it out.
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srsly.

what do these guys think? that they’re in PWI or something?

lets talk about boobs and bacon forchristsake~

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Separatist commander tweets: “We warned you. Do not fly in our sky.”

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[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Two in one post here:

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Nope. The first link is a repost of the link I posted on page 1. I posted it again because people responding(such as yourself) clearly didn’t read it. The second link had nothing to do with the Malaysian airline crash(it was a link about a Korean airliner shot down in 1983.) As I said, I have only posted one link about the Malaysian airline crash in the entire thread.[/quote]

Time to hug it out.
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srsly.

what do these guys think? that they’re in PWI or something?

lets talk about boobs and bacon forchristsake~

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Lol

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^Sexy doesnt know how this game is played…

(ewwwwww)

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
What is the motive for Russia or Ukraine to shoot down a commercial plane? [/quote]

None. This is pretty simple stuff. The Russian separatists have been shooting down Ukrainian military aircraft. They shot down a commercial airliner by mistake thinking it was a Ukrainian military aircraft.[/quote]

If you can operate a missile system with those capabilities, you’ll be able to differentiate between commercial and military.

Why would a Ukrainian military plane be at that altitude, on that heading?
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It’s not inconceivable that the Buk operator did not recognise that the radar signature and transponder signal were from a commercial airliner.
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There may have been 2 or more planes in the area at the same time and the wrong one got locked onto.

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http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/07/flight-mh17-crash-site-has-been-heavily-looted/374707/

So apparently, Looters have been stealing credit cards and jewelry from the dead. Just when this whole thing couldn’t suck even more.