Making Weight for Fight After Test Cycle

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Hi Guys

I’m a 24 year old mixed martial artist who recently started my first cycle, the intended cycle was 300mg test cyp every 4th day and 50mg of anavar ED for 6 weeks, started on Jan 15th and did 5 shots of test but discontinued the test as i was gaining weight very quickly, this is a major issue as i have a fight at 84kg in mid march, i’m still taking the anavar.

I went from 88kg to 98 in 2 and a half weeks, and its not good weight (like someone got a hose inside my skin and filled me with water) my diet which which is pretty low calorie and very clean has stayed the same as always,
been training 2-3 times a day 6 days a week and while my strength and endurance have increased, I literally can’t stop gaining weight, even eating 1200 calories a day, i’m now really worried about making weight! Is there anything i can do to help shed this weight and flush out all this water?

Any help would be much appreciated?

thanks

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Get in the sauna boyyeee crank that bitch up. Get your rubber suit on ab andd start biking

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Bad news for you: you fucked up. If I were you, I would ran a high dose AI (1mg ED anastrozole) to remove that water.

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@niksamaras I could be wrong, im new to thw AAS world, But wouldn’t quitting the cycle have been even worse for him?

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It’s all water weight. You should know how to cut water weight if you are a fighter. Like nic said you can run an AI for a bit to dry out but don’t crash your E. I would continue with normal cutting diet and if anything drink more water so your body does’t hold onto it for so long. It’s not like you can start cutting water weight a month before your fight, usually that is done the last 1-3 days before weigh in. You should be fine you will lose most if not all of your excess water weight by then, then just cut water like normal.

You can cut 15 lbs of water in 1-2 days. I have done it ( wrestler for 15 years) it is not fun and depending on how long before your fight your weigh in is you may not be able to rehydrate quick enough, so take that into consideration when planning where to cut from.

And the anavar, I have never run it or researched it so I have no idea if that causes one to hold water, but if it does obviously you should not be running it if you are going to need to cut weight soon.

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[quote]Lift-up-put-down wrote:
@niksamaras I could be wrong, im new to thw AAS world, But wouldn’t quitting the cycle have been even worse for him? [/quote]

At this point, nobody really knows, and with a fight in a month and 10kg to lose, he has to take drastic measures.

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[quote]wifury wrote:
Hi Guys

I’m a 24 year old mixed martial artist who recently started my first cycle, the intended cycle was 300mg test cyp every 4th day and 50mg of anavar ED for 6 weeks, started on Jan 15th and did 5 shots of test but discontinued the test as i was gaining weight very quickly, this is a major issue as i have a fight at 84kg in mid march, i’m still taking the anavar.

I went from 88kg to 98 in 2 and a half weeks, and its not good weight (like someone got a hose inside my skin and filled me with water) my diet which which is pretty low calorie and very clean has stayed the same as always,
been training 2-3 times a day 6 days a week and while my strength and endurance have increased, I literally can’t stop gaining weight, even eating 1200 calories a day, i’m now really worried about making weight! Is there anything i can do to help shed this weight and flush out all this water?

Any help would be much appreciated?

thanks[/quote]

do you normally cut weight, ro fight close to your natural weigh?

i’m surprised you gained this much weight, even at a caloric deficit and training several times a day…

i presume you won’t be tested for AAS for your fight, so what i would do is keep doing what you’re doing now, and do a quick PCT prior to your weight cut.

30 lbs is a big cut, but using a SERM and AI, in addition to super-hydrating and card deleting is pretty impressive…

FYI,

next time i’d use a lower dose of test, like 300 mg/wk. the size gains are substantially less, but the strength gains are pretty comparable…

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[quote]wifury wrote:
Hi Guys

I’m a 24 year old mixed martial artist who recently started my first cycle, the intended cycle was 300mg test cyp every 4th day and 50mg of anavar ED for 6 weeks, started on Jan 15th and did 5 shots of test but discontinued the test as i was gaining weight very quickly, this is a major issue as i have a fight at 84kg in mid march, i’m still taking the anavar.

I went from 88kg to 98 in 2 and a half weeks, and its not good weight (like someone got a hose inside my skin and filled me with water) my diet which which is pretty low calorie and very clean has stayed the same as always,
been training 2-3 times a day 6 days a week and while my strength and endurance have increased, I literally can’t stop gaining weight, even eating 1200 calories a day, i’m now really worried about making weight! Is there anything i can do to help shed this weight and flush out all this water?

Any help would be much appreciated?

thanks[/quote]

are you sure you’re taking Anavar?

i seriously think you got something else…

EDIT:

after thinking about this, i agree about stopping the cycle and moving into PCT (tamoxifen and aromasin) right now…

either you got something other than anavar (i’m thinking d-bol or anadrol), or you are aromatizing testosterone into estrogen like it’s your job. either way, it sucks, and it’s gonna make cutting from 215 to 185 hard as shit…

if you got legit anavar, then there is something not right about your body right now. one could expect gaining 20 lbs in 10 weeks, but you’ve got something else going on there, especially considering you’re not eating or training in a manner conducive to large muscle/weight gains…

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Cheers for all the advice so far lads much appreciated.

I normally cut between 4 and 6 kg to from 88 or 90ish wouldn’t like to try much more than that

Ya…i’m really starting to wonder about the anavar! the lab i got it from have mixed reviews!

If i came off everything now what would be the best thing i could do in regards to PCT?

I have 20x20 nolva and 20 x 50 mg of clomid, could prob get access to other pct gear within a week!

Thanks again lads!

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[quote]niksamaras wrote:

[quote]Lift-up-put-down wrote:
@niksamaras I could be wrong, im new to thw AAS world, But wouldn’t quitting the cycle have been even worse for him? [/quote]

At this point, nobody really knows, and with a fight in a month and 10kg to lose, he has to take drastic measures.[/quote]

6 days out: Sodium load heavy heavy salt. Normal diet. 1 gallon of water.
5 days out: Sodium load moderate. Normal Diet. 1 gallon of water.
4 days out: sodium load moderate. Cut Carbs in half. 2 gallons of water.
3 days out: very little sodium very little. Cut carbs again. 2 gallons of water. 1 small bottle milk of Magnesia (Light Laxative)
2 days out: NO SODIUM. NO CARBS. 3 gallons of water. Milk of Magnesia. Lasiks if still not with in 5lbs bit you should be. If nit you need a different weight class.
24 hours before weigh in 0 WATER, 0 SODIUM, 0 CARBS.

Immediately after weigh in head back to hotel room. Hook up to a sodium/ potassium solution IV. Begin drinking 1 part water 1 part powerade. Need 1 gallon for every 6lba lost. For this particular guy about 3 gallons. Eat Rice, Lean Protein, and Potassium rich foods. If your not back to your original starting weight and you should be then hook up to 1 more IV before bed. Should feel like a million bucks after a good sleep.

To any and all fat powerlifters or fighters your welcome.

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[quote]Reed wrote:

[quote]niksamaras wrote:

[quote]Lift-up-put-down wrote:
@niksamaras I could be wrong, im new to thw AAS world, But wouldn’t quitting the cycle have been even worse for him? [/quote]

At this point, nobody really knows, and with a fight in a month and 10kg to lose, he has to take drastic measures.[/quote]

6 days out: Sodium load heavy heavy salt. Normal diet. 1 gallon of water.
5 days out: Sodium load moderate. Normal Diet. 1 gallon of water.
4 days out: sodium load moderate. Cut Carbs in half. 2 gallons of water.
3 days out: very little sodium very little. Cut carbs again. 2 gallons of water. 1 small bottle milk of Magnesia (Light Laxative)
2 days out: NO SODIUM. NO CARBS. 3 gallons of water. Milk of Magnesia. Lasiks if still not with in 5lbs bit you should be. If nit you need a different weight class.
24 hours before weigh in 0 WATER, 0 SODIUM, 0 CARBS.

Immediately after weigh in head back to hotel room. Hook up to a sodium/ potassium solution IV. Begin drinking 1 part water 1 part powerade. Need 1 gallon for every 6lba lost. For this particular guy about 3 gallons. Eat Rice, Lean Protein, and Potassium rich foods. If your not back to your original starting weight and you should be then hook up to 1 more IV before bed. Should feel like a million bucks after a good sleep.

To any and all fat powerlifters or fighters your welcome.[/quote]

nice!

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[quote]wifury wrote:
Cheers for all the advice so far lads much appreciated.

I normally cut between 4 and 6 kg to from 88 or 90ish wouldn’t like to try much more than that

Ya…i’m really starting to wonder about the anavar! the lab i got it from have mixed reviews!

If i came off everything now what would be the best thing i could do in regards to PCT?

I have 20x20 nolva and 20 x 50 mg of clomid, could prob get access to other pct gear within a week!

Thanks again lads!

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well, i’m almost certain you got something other than anavar… nobody gains weight like that on anavar, even with test. anadrol, however, is a different story…

without knowing what you were on, causes some minor issues with PCT. personally, i think different SERMs have different roles here. i’m not a fan of clomid, and generally prefer tamoxifen. however, raloxafene is nice if one’s running hGH/GHRP’s (as it doesn’t lower IGF-1), and toremefin is nice for those with cholesterol issues, and also is also pretty good at lower elevated prolactin.

deca, tren and Anadrol-50 are well known in causing prolactin related issues… since it’s possible you were on anadrol, tore might be a better choice here. but since you already have nolvadex, i think it’s worth stopping the cycle now, and starting nolva at 20 mg/day…

nolva is also effective at raising test for several months, so you could actually run this all the way up to fight time. you prolly won’t have much suppression, since you were only on cycle for about a month, but you still don’t want the emotional effects of low test going into a fight…

aromasin is an aromatase inhibitor, and it’s the only one that doesn’t cause issues with the SERMs. i think it can help in raising test levels, and in lowering estrogen levels, can really help in cutting weight. the only issue, is avoiding dropping estrogen too low, as it can be hard on the joints…

anyway, here’s a thread i started on this a while back on PCT: Thoughts on Planning PCT - Pharma - Forums - T Nation