Is there any reason these two shouldn’t be stacked? Apologies if this was covered in the rather lengthy HRX thread. It is MAG-10 “The Destroyer” in case anyone wonders which version I’m asking about.
I can’t think of one. What’s your goal? A strict diet with very speedy fat loss and maximum muscle maintenace and perhaps even some gains? Or a solid bulk where you are trying to minimize fat gains?
I would cycle the two products. This combo would probably be good to do on a carb cycling diet where on your training high carb days you would take the MAG-10 and the low carb days you would take the HOT-ROX to keep the metabolism juiced and the caffeine wont affect carb metabolism due to insulin insensitivity. I think 1 day MAG-10, 3 days HOT-ROX could be used for a really long time to gain lean mass without shutting down your own production too badly. on the non HOT-ROX days i would stay away from all caffeine products. laters pk
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
I can’t think of one. What’s your goal? A strict diet with very speedy fat loss and maximum muscle maintenace and perhaps even some gains? Or a solid bulk where you are trying to minimize fat gains?[/quote]
Fat loss is the primary goal. I wanted to include a pro hormone or T-boosting type of product, but with the new Alpha Male formulation, that is out while using HRX. I’ve had some MAG-10 sitting around for a long time and figured I might as well use it if there were no compatibility issues. I can’t envision my physique getting to the point where I would need a bulking phase to save the MAG-10 for. Not saying I’m hugely muscular, just that losing fat has always been my far bigger challenge. But, I would go ahead and save the MAG-10 if taking it while dieting were tantamount to flushing it down the toilet.
\Thanks a lot.
People juice and use HOT-ROX.
have at her
just remember to check out PCT, I don’t know what for MAG-10 but there should be some precautions.
[quote]pkradgreek wrote:
I would cycle the two products. This combo would probably be good to do on a carb cycling diet where on your training high carb days you would take the MAG-10 and the low carb days you would take the HOT-ROX to keep the metabolism juiced and the caffeine wont affect carb metabolism due to insulin insensitivity. I think 1 day MAG-10, 3 days HOT-ROX could be used for a really long time to gain lean mass without shutting down your own production too badly. on the non HOT-ROX days i would stay away from all caffeine products. laters pk[/quote]
This wouldn’t work. He has the prohormone version. Taking it one day on, 3 days off would be completely ineffective.
[quote]greatgro wrote:
This wouldn’t work. He has the prohormone version. Taking it one day on, 3 days off would be completely ineffective.[/quote]
I believe that it was Tim Patterson that originally recommended such a cycle, although I don’t recall the suggested dosage.
You might want to do a little more research before summarily dismissing it.
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
People juice and use HOT-ROX.
have at her
just remember to check out PCT, I don’t know what for MAG-10 but there should be some precautions.[/quote]
Those who have used MAG-10 and Biotest itself says traditional PCT is not necessary and that an herbal test booster such as Alpha Male is more than adequate. But I can’t see how low does nolva, maybe 20mg a day for a week or two as well, could hurt.
[quote]dcrosswell1 wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
I can’t think of one. What’s your goal? A strict diet with very speedy fat loss and maximum muscle maintenace and perhaps even some gains? Or a solid bulk where you are trying to minimize fat gains?
Fat loss is the primary goal. I wanted to include a pro hormone or T-boosting type of product, but with the new Alpha Male formulation, that is out while using HRX. I’ve had some MAG-10 sitting around for a long time and figured I might as well use it if there were no compatibility issues. I can’t envision my physique getting to the point where I would need a bulking phase to save the MAG-10 for. Not saying I’m hugely muscular, just that losing fat has always been my far bigger challenge. But, I would go ahead and save the MAG-10 if taking it while dieting were tantamount to flushing it down the toilet.
\Thanks a lot. [/quote]
I don’t think it’d be flushing it down the toilet. But I’d give proper diet and training paired with HRX and TRIBEX a go first. MAG-10 for dieting might be someting to consider if you’re still really struggling at that point.
[quote]dcrosswell1 wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
I can’t think of one. What’s your goal? A strict diet with very speedy fat loss and maximum muscle maintenace and perhaps even some gains? Or a solid bulk where you are trying to minimize fat gains?
Fat loss is the primary goal. I wanted to include a pro hormone or T-boosting type of product, but with the new Alpha Male formulation, that is out while using HRX. I’ve had some MAG-10 sitting around for a long time and figured I might as well use it if there were no compatibility issues. I can’t envision my physique getting to the point where I would need a bulking phase to save the MAG-10 for. Not saying I’m hugely muscular, just that losing fat has always been my far bigger challenge. But, I would go ahead and save the MAG-10 if taking it while dieting were tantamount to flushing it down the toilet.
\Thanks a lot. [/quote]
I’d take TRIBEX gold if you want something like Alpha Male minus the Carbolin 19.
MAG-10 if what I read about it is true isn’t worthy of a cutting cycle. But if you have your heart set on it, I imagine it would be useful.