[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
DoggCrapp: 5-seconds in the stretch position
cool-hand wrote:
Do you mean that pausing 5 seconds in the fully stretched position between reps is useless? Because I thought I recently read that this would limit the “rebound” effect and make your calves work harder…
WS4JB wrote:
Ok, i think that you were thinking that we was calling the stretching method Doggcrapp as an insult, but he was actually referring to a method of weight training that includes “loaded stretching” which is sometimes referred to as Doggcrapp or the DC method.
Do a search for it, its got some interesting points…[/quote]
Check. I was talking about Dante’s DoggCrapp program. I’ve noted added fullness and vascularity in my calves since adding his intense stretching to my repitoir (sp?). My calves were pretty maxed-out already (they’re my best body part), so any changes I can see in them are the icing on the cake.
In reference to my original post, I was basically listing some different ways to do your reps for variety in your calf workouts.
Do you know why fat people have huge calves? They have a lot of weight on their calves.
Stop using a standing calf raise machine with light weight. Blast those fuckers with like 800 pounds. Light or medium weight won’t make calves grow; you have to use massive amount of weight.
My best results came from heavy, frequent training. I’ve had tiny calves my whole life, but I’ve managed to put an inch on them in the last 2 months. I used to do high reps and wait for the “burn” with minimal success. Here’s the workout that I’ve been doing recently.
Workout A
Leg press with knees bent 8 sets of 5
Seated calf raises 4 sets of 12
Single leg standing calf raise 2 sets until failure (bodyweight)
Treadmill walking 10 degree slope at 3MPH 10 minutes
Workout B
Leg press with knees bent 5 sets of 10
Seated calf raises 3 sets of 15
Single leg standing calf raise 2 sets until failure (bodyweight)
Treadmill walking 10 degree slope at 3MPH 10 minutes
It may be flawed, but it’s been working for me so far.
start doing plyometrics exercises where u jump and land on single leg. what made mine grow was single leg high pulls. all u need is some impact and shox for it to grow.
[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
Complete repititions — complete stretch to complete contraction. Calf raises already have a short ROM, so don’t shorten it any more.
You do NOT have to do that every day crap. You already do high-rep, low resistance calf work every day when you walk. What makes people think that more of the same will produce growth?[/quote]
Heavy standing/seated calf raises are not “more of the same”. Walking is NOT the same as getting under the entire stack of weight and pressing up several times. We think it will produce growth…BECAUSE IT HAS. I train mine nearly everyday and that has been the only time that mine grew.
[quote]Topathlete wrote:
LIFTING IS NOT THE ANSWER FOR YOU.
start doing plyometrics exercises where u jump and land on single leg. what made mine grow was single leg high pulls. all u need is some impact and shox for it to grow. [/quote]
Ok, i think that you were thinking that we was calling the stretching method Doggcrapp as an insult, but he was actually referring to a method of weight training that includes “loaded stretching” which is sometimes referred to as Doggcrapp or the DC method…
simon-hecubus wrote:
Check. I was talking about Dante’s DoggCrapp program…
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JB and simon-hecubus,
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I’ll research the DoggCrapp program tonight. Again, thanks for the input.
I’ll echo what several people have already said, about the importance of working calves regularly and heavy.
I used to train calves once a week on leg day, 3 to 5 sets of 8 to 12 reps, usually to failure. I always got a good burn during my sets, often had severe DOMS the next day or two, but made little progress.
Last year I starting hitting calves every workout, and have been doing so ever since. I’ll throw in a single set of calf raises between other exercises, so by the end of the workout I’ve done five or six sets on calves, each set being 5 or 6 reps, full ROM, as heavy as I can go. I don’t get much of a burn during those sets, and rarely suffer from DOMS. Yet, I’ve added more size and strength to my calves in less than one year, using this approach, than in all my previous years of training.
[quote]Fulmen wrote:
Do you know why fat people have huge calves? They have a lot of weight on their calves.
Stop using a standing calf raise machine with light weight. Blast those fuckers with like 800 pounds. Light or medium weight won’t make calves grow; you have to use massive amount of weight.[/quote]
But, ONLY if you work your way up to those large weights and maintain a full ROM. I don’t know how many light bulb boys I’ve seen who like to load up the full stack on the calf machine and then proceed to do about a 1-inch ROM.
Heavier and heavier weights are great to build your strength up and for beginning and intermediate hypertrophy, but even with heavy weights growth will cease if you don’t provide variety.
You can’t build a fortress on a toothpick base, boys.