[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
I <3 carbs.
IMO if you are setting yourself up to diet start with your carbs as high as they can possibly be so you have something to take from as your fat loss stalls. I’d even venture to start with carbs being 50% of your calories.
Some people don’t like carbs, I suppose the same could be done with fat. But I don’t understand the carb-phobia. [/quote]
I just want to add fats as high as possible to start too. And cardio as low as possible. [/quote]
Might just be my opinion, but I’ve noticed a lot of people who try to diet without a coach or preset plan don’t do this. Just jump right into starvation diets and tons of cardio, shed tons of water and initial weight so they keep it going. Once their body adjusts there isn’t much more they can do and crash out, then their metabolism is so shot, they eat a grape and gain weight.
I made a vent thread about a weight loss concert I sponsored at work. We are just finishing up month two, lets just say the field is thinning out from those who just gave up after the describe scenario above.[/quote]
That’s cuz people dont know how to think long term. For some reason there’s this number floating around that people shouldn’t “cut” more than 12-16 weeks. Well my last cut lasted about 10 months, and I’m doing just fine. [/quote]
Gotta treat body fat like BBQ chicken, low and slow baby! Seal in them juices.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
I <3 carbs.
IMO if you are setting yourself up to diet start with your carbs as high as they can possibly be so you have something to take from as your fat loss stalls. I’d even venture to start with carbs being 50% of your calories.
Some people don’t like carbs, I suppose the same could be done with fat. But I don’t understand the carb-phobia. [/quote]
I did the opposite, started the diet Keto style. Just crashed my metabolism in weeks, reversed up to a high carb approach, then just slowly cut them away until my metabolism was functioning again then like I said below, keep dropping them until things slowed then switched to the min strategy.[/quote]
how did you know you crashed your metabolism? what kind of things did you notice?
i ask because after a few keto days my body does some wack ass shit lol.
IMO it take some time to get you body into keto and functioning properly. So 10 days minimum I would say and 2-3 weeks of full keto and evaluate before you say your just not up,for it. Your body needs to produce a whole host of enzymes to function in true keto.
Many eat more calories/carbs on training days but, do any of you feel you can eat more calories especially carbs if you manipulate your macro breakdown to eating them around training or later in the day? Would progress be better? Does it even matter so long as you are hitting your numbers?
My daily breakdown is for the last few days has been 46% p/ 29% c / 25% f and I eat carbs at every meal.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
I <3 carbs.
IMO if you are setting yourself up to diet start with your carbs as high as they can possibly be so you have something to take from as your fat loss stalls. I’d even venture to start with carbs being 50% of your calories.
Some people don’t like carbs, I suppose the same could be done with fat. But I don’t understand the carb-phobia. [/quote]
I just want to add fats as high as possible to start too. And cardio as low as possible. [/quote]
Might just be my opinion, but I’ve noticed a lot of people who try to diet without a coach or preset plan don’t do this. Just jump right into starvation diets and tons of cardio, shed tons of water and initial weight so they keep it going. Once their body adjusts there isn’t much more they can do and crash out, then their metabolism is so shot, they eat a grape and gain weight.
I made a vent thread about a weight loss concert I sponsored at work. We are just finishing up month two, lets just say the field is thinning out from those who just gave up after the describe scenario above.[/quote]
That’s cuz people dont know how to think long term. For some reason there’s this number floating around that people shouldn’t “cut” more than 12-16 weeks. Well my last cut lasted about 10 months, and I’m doing just fine. [/quote]
Gotta treat body fat like BBQ chicken, low and slow baby! Seal in them juices.[/quote]
[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
Many eat more calories/carbs on training days but, do any of you feel you can eat more calories especially carbs if you manipulate your macro breakdown to eating them around training or later in the day? Would progress be better? Does it even matter so long as you are hitting your numbers?
My daily breakdown is for the last few days has been 46% p/ 29% c / 25% f and I eat carbs at every meal.[/quote]
That’s a great question and I’d like to hear people’s input as well.
Personally I notice a difference in my ability to keep my appetite at bay when cutting when I control timing around training a little better.
Im a semi-pro soccer player and I am in “maintenance” mode;
Protein: I shoot for about 200+ a day. Usually I get anywhere between 190-230.
Carbs: I try and keep the majority of carbs for before and after training. I usually shoot for about 50-60 grams of carbs about an hour before training, and about 60-80 grams for after training. When training in the morning, I train fasted and have carbs afterwards. If I don’t train in the morning I don’t include carbs in my breakfast. I also allow a carb-laden meal 12-18 hours before my weekly game… which usually involves a bowl of pasta. I also have a re-feed after my game, which often involves a pizza or 2, and a few beers.
Fats: I love nuts. I snack with nuts 2-3x/day, and I find that my fat intake can creep up into the low 100’s. Usually I get between 80-140 grams of fat a day.
Personally I don’t eat until training then whey. And normally don’t eat eat solid foods until night and then all my carbs and remaining protein. I think it helps with losing fast, health, recovery ect. IMO. But cannot prove it. It’s also much easier as I carry enough stuff around without bringing food
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
I <3 carbs.
IMO if you are setting yourself up to diet start with your carbs as high as they can possibly be so you have something to take from as your fat loss stalls. I’d even venture to start with carbs being 50% of your calories.
Some people don’t like carbs, I suppose the same could be done with fat. But I don’t understand the carb-phobia. [/quote]
I did the opposite, started the diet Keto style. Just crashed my metabolism in weeks, reversed up to a high carb approach, then just slowly cut them away until my metabolism was functioning again then like I said below, keep dropping them until things slowed then switched to the min strategy.[/quote]
how did you know you crashed your metabolism? what kind of things did you notice?
i ask because after a few keto days my body does some wack ass shit lol.[/quote]
Good question, because I really dont. I just assumed I was going into some form of metabolic shock meaning my body stopped burning fat and shifted to survival mode.
By the third week weightloss stalled despite dropping cals and adding cardio. Everything felt heavy, dont mean the gym, mean like my briefcase and whatnot. Felt run down and sleepy all day long. Couldnt make it through my workouts either.
DD - what are you shooting for with those numbers?[/quote]
Kinda just playing around and figuring crap out.
I’m seeing how high I can get my calories by keeping my carbs that low. And how high I’ll have to get to gain weight on that ratio. I’ve been slowly bumping my calories up.
I may start playing around with some small carb ups too.
I’m of the opinion that more calories > more carbs in terms of overall energy and recovery.
40% cho 30%pro 30% fat. Pretty much keep it that way always and all my meals are the same portions/ratios and I just eat them whenever I get hungry. I don’t believe you can force feed yourself to grow you’ll just add lard
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Would eating too much of one fat like saturated fat cause issues? My main source of fat is coconut oil with a much lower intake of mono and poly saturated fats.