It does. For me, a few weeks of high calorie eating (2-3 weeks) I’ve gotten all my strength back and then some. Its definitly alot faster each time around.
Thank god well I better get at it then! By the way was that 300 flat bench for reps of 1rm either whay its VERY impresive at your bodyweight
300 was a 1rm, one day it’ll be for reps. Not one day soon though.
[quote]elusive wrote:
Quick update for myself. I totally fell off the diet wagon. I’ve been basically on a see food diet. However, I feel great with lots of energy and I’ve been hitting the weights hard. My strength is making progress every workout it seems.
I finally got 300 on my flat bench and have been hitting 500+ on my deadlifts once again. I posted the deadlift vids in my profile if anyone wants to take a look. My short term goal for the dead is 550+ and I feel it will be easily achievable. O yeah, sleep is great =)[/quote]
Congratulations on the progress – It has to be encouraging after dieting for so long. You say you’re on a see food diet, does that include carbs?
Yes, if I see them, I eat them. lol, and I happen to see alot of them.
LOL…I thought it was Lyle’s Mcdonalds diet 2.0 and I was like oh fuck …I love mcdonalds. 
[quote]facko wrote:
LOL…I thought it was Lyle’s Mcdonalds diet 2.0 and I was like oh fuck …I love mcdonalds. :([/quote]
lol
Lol. You get to eat big macs and chicken McNuggets, works well.
Just found this thread after reading through the entire UD2 last night. It’s a complicated approach CKD and combines several different philosophies (low carb, lactate inducing workouts, hormone manipulation via a carb up etc.) After getting to your current shreddedness, elusive, which approach has worked best for you? I know you’ve done a low carb cycling diet with 8-10 cal/lb with huge 12 hour refeeds (from the carb cycling forum). What’s your bread and butter?
Hey Guys, i got a question But regarding the depletion workouts. The workouts lyle states are basically the ones which are included in Thib’s destroying fatloss article. (lactate inducing workouts).
Are the circuit style workouts MORE efficient than metabolic pairings?
Cause; i’ve been hearing and even asked Thibs about his metabolic pairings. They are apparently the next step in evolution of the lactate inducing workouts.
[quote]phatkins187 wrote:
Just found this thread after reading through the entire UD2 last night. It’s a complicated approach CKD and combines several different philosophies (low carb, lactate inducing workouts, hormone manipulation via a carb up etc.) After getting to your current shreddedness, elusive, which approach has worked best for you? I know you’ve done a low carb cycling diet with 8-10 cal/lb with huge 12 hour refeeds (from the carb cycling forum). What’s your bread and butter?[/quote]
My bread and butter was probably lower carb (<70 grams/daily) at 10 cal/lb with as much carbs as I can fit down once a week for fat loss. Basically what I’ve been doing as of late (Carb Cycle Thread). I realize now that my results on the UD 2.0 (are lack of) were due to me keto dieting pretty hard for some time before entering into it. Lyle recommends that you start with a fresh, burning metabolism.
[quote]tayjeremy wrote:
Hey Guys, i got a question But regarding the depletion workouts. The workouts lyle states are basically the ones which are included in Thib’s destroying fatloss article. (lactate inducing workouts).
Are the circuit style workouts MORE efficient than metabolic pairings?
Cause; i’ve been hearing and even asked Thibs about his metabolic pairings. They are apparently the next step in evolution of the lactate inducing workouts.
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Lyle gives some suggestions on how to switch the workouts around in order to deplete correctly.
I’ve recently done a deplete/replenish style diet where I wasn’t circuit training or doing metabolic pairings. I just kept worksets for each body part in the 12-16 set range and aimed for 8-12 reps. That depleted me really well, cause I soaked up all the carbs come refeed day.
Yeah that was what i was thinking of doing. But i was getting confused with all the timings of the sets… and lactate… all that stuff. Just didnt wana mess with it.
elusive and others,
What’s the longest you’ve technically dieted for?
I had a fat loss plan where I was dieting for 12-16 weeks, with planned refeeds, and cals increasing every 2 weeks with an increase in physical activity. I think I can do it and get away with it…
Damn man. Doing the UD for 12-16 weeks. I live the weeks, day by day. Often finding my self going “Fu*k… what am i doing. i hate cardio! Why am i lifting so slowly…” hahaha. I don’t think i have much advice for you though, Still learning new things myself. Or looking at things with a more rational eye.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
elusive and others,
What’s the longest you’ve technically dieted for?
I had a fat loss plan where I was dieting for 12-16 weeks, with planned refeeds, and cals increasing every 2 weeks with an increase in physical activity. I think I can do it and get away with it…[/quote]
13 weeks (aprox).
I just finished 12 weeks. Started with Velocity, carb cycled, depleted last week. Went to Vegas pretty slim this weekend and devastated my body. I figure that was enough of a kick start to my metabolism so I’m back to dieting. Going to do a 12-day PSMF (Category 1 Rapid Fat Loss) followed by a 2 day refeed, and then carb cycle and deplete again (final week) for a month before my next Vegas stint. Gotta look good for the pool party pimpin’ y’all!
It’s honestly taken me longer than 12 weeks to get to low BF% since I started around 18%, now am around 12-14%. If I’m under 10% in 6 weeks I’ll be stoked.
Elusive, regarding that modified style of depletion training. Could it at all be possible for you to PM me a sort of example? The depletion workouts are grueling enough, and i hate lifting light weights (anything over 15-20).
Hearing ranges of 8-12… even if its 12-16 sets is heavenly right now. Hahah
Ah crap i think my post didnt show up. Elusive, how did you manipulate the 8-12 reps and sets? Did your sets last 45-60 seconds each? intensity? sorry, Just the depletion workouts are getting to me. I can’t seem to start them. But once the ball gets rolling. you just Grind. And Grind. AND grind. oh and you grind some more.
When following the UD 2.0, I followed the workouts as ordered. However, more recently I just trained how I normally train. 12-16sets of 8-12 reps. I didn’t focus on TUT/time per set. I did lift to failure or near it. I really didn’t worry about the minor things. I just tried to hammer each body part as if I was expecting muscle growth.