Lying About Your Lifting Max

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
no, 8 plates = 810+carriage= ~875

18 plates would be 1710+ carriage= ~1775 …i know you were being saracastic i just felt like doing the math.

and seeing people load the press up and go down about 2 inches is hilarious. well, it kinda isnt because they REALLY believe that theyre strong as shit for doing it. like when someone who weighs 170 pounds benches 2 plates by lifting it off the rack, dropping it 4 inches and getting it back up.

45 lbs. plates?[/quote]

I get it now!

Fuzzy math. The guys aren’t lying about thier weights, they just become retarded when calculating the amount.

36, 45 pound plates is 1,620.

18 X 2 = 36

EDIT:

I think he might have been trying to add a 45 pound bar, but you wouldn’t do that when calculating a leg press… unless I am thinking of a different type of press.

You would obviously add the 45 pound bar to a squat.

I would love to see a 1,700 pound squat.

What’s the most outrageous lie anyone’s heard about lifting numbers?

While doing Dips with 90 pounds, someone I know told me they thought I was “stronger than that.” He then proceeded to tell me he knew someone who could do weighted dips with 7, yes 7, 45lb plates at a bodyweight of 195ish.
Yet he does not compete in powerlifting, football, the shot-put, gymnastics, or anything that could explain such a super-human feat.

Other people have also told me they can Squat 500 or 600 pounds. I find out that they are using a Cybex “Squat” Press. Having them Squat with a bar on their back would be out of the question since Barbell Squats are “retarded.”

I also get plenty of people telling me that they’re benching 275 or 295 only to find out that they don’t even lower the bar farther down than the J-Hooks when they max.

I remember going to the gym once and seeing a guy squatting in the squat rack. He had 4 plates on each side (405 lbs.) and I was pretty impressed, that is, until I saw his range of motion, which was an almighty whole 5 inches.

I rarely legpress anymore but when I do, I like it when guys snicker at me because I’m only using 4 or 5 plates on each side while they use like 7 or something. They don’t seem to consider the fact that my thighs actually touch my chest when I legpress.

I also have no clue what my lifting maxes are either for the big three. In fact, I haven’t done a conventional deadlift (sticking to Romanians at the moment) or barbell benchpress (flat dumbbell presses and incline barbell) for a couple of months now so I have no idea what my maxes are in those areas. Although I do like the look of cluelessness on people’s faces when they ask me how much I lift and I respond only with my squat weight.

Worst I can remember hearing was an 18 year old kid who was interested in joining my gym and getting some training. This kid was very average for his age class in all aspects about 5 foot 10, 155 pounds, 15% body fat. He had been lifting (not remotely serious mind you)for 3 months. I don’t recall how it came up but he told me that his standard deadlift max was 405. I have to admit though, the weighted dip story is far worse in my opinion, what a load of shit.

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
What’s the most outrageous lie anyone’s heard about lifting numbers?

While doing Dips with 90 pounds, someone I know told me they thought I was “stronger than that.” He then proceeded to tell me he knew someone who could do weighted dips with 7, yes 7, 45lb plates at a bodyweight of 195ish.

Yet he does not compete in powerlifting, football, the shot-put, gymnastics, or anything that could explain such a super-human feat.

Other people have also told me they can Squat 500 or 600 pounds. I find out that they are using a Cybex “Squat” Press. Having them Squat with a bar on their back would be out of the question since Barbell Squats are “retarded.”

I also get plenty of people telling me that they’re benching 275 or 295 only to find out that they don’t even lower the bar farther down than the J-Hooks when they max. [/quote]

The absolute worst I heard was when an acquaintance of mine said he squatted 1000lbs (yes, that is correct, 1000lbs) at the dinner table with his girlfriend, two other friends of ours, and his girlfriends mom/step dad.

He wasn’t obnoxious about it, but he was sure he squatted that much when he was working out (he no longer worked out.)

Rather than nod my head and say “Yeally?!” to humor him like a lot of people would have, I told him, matter-of-factly, that he most definitely did not squat that much weight.

I described the exercise for him in detail, asked him if it was a barbell or a machine, and all that good stuff. He maintained that he was “pretty sure” he squatted 1000lbs. I told him the BEST powerlifters in the world did that, and they were the best of the best.

By the end, he conceded that he must have been mistaken, however, and I told him this, I could not even understand how someone could MISTAKINGLY think they squatted 1000lbs.

I was just baffled.

[quote]analog_kid wrote:
You forgot that in addition to be very strong, they also have freakishly large cocks. [/quote]

I am not that strong but yes, some of us are blessed in other ways.

[quote]NewDamage wrote:

By the end, he conceded that he must have been mistaken, however, and I told him this, I could not even understand how someone could MISTAKINGLY think they squatted 1000lbs.

I was just baffled.[/quote]

Amazing. Maybe it was 100 pounds for 10 reps?

Maybe the gym had those thin, 12 pound practice disks for teaching Women and Children Olympic Lifts and he thought they were 45s.

Whenever I show someone anything from the WPO or a big meet, they invariably say “Doesn’t look like he’s got a lot of plates on the bar - I’ve seen you with that many plates on the bar before.”

The idea that there are 50kg plates out there just baffles people.

[quote]Mister T. wrote:
This is why I never talk about lifting outside of the gym to anyone except those whom I’ve seen IN the gym.

Everyone seems to either:
A. Know someone…
B. Be someone…
C. Have been someone…

…Who could at one time Bench 1500lbs, Squat about, you know, 4000 pounds, and deadlift about eight tons.

Of course, since I train strongman, I get the easy way out.

“Hey Mr. T, how much you bench?”

“I don’t bench. I train strongman.”

If the conversation doesn’t end there, they usually ask something like:

“So, what, can you like, pick up cars and stuff”

“Yeah, I’ve been in a competition where I picked up a car 8 times. It was cool”

And that ends it. Because no motherfucker on earth wants to say that they can do that too, only to have to go out to the parking lot to prove it.

…and I actually just started training bench, but I don’t lift anything impressive, so it doesn’t count in my mind. Yet.[/quote]

WHAT KIND OF FOOL WOULD SUGGEST THAT MR. T CANNOT LIFT A CAR.

[quote]Christine wrote:
36, 45 pound plates is 1,620.

18 X 2 = 36

EDIT:

I think he might have been trying to add a 45 pound bar, but you wouldn’t do that when calculating a leg press… unless I am thinking of a different type of press.

You would obviously add the 45 pound bar to a squat.

I would love to see a 1,700 pound squat.[/quote]

yea errr im just used to doing gym math w/ the bar so i did 405x2 because w/ bar 405 = 8 plates total and doubled it for 16 plates which is 810 then added another 90 to get to 18 which is 900 so it should really be 900 - 90 which would be 810 + ~65 for the carriage = ~875.

but thats why i just tell people i used X plates on X exercsie instead of doing the number value.

[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
Mister T. wrote:
This is why I never talk about lifting outside of the gym to anyone except those whom I’ve seen IN the gym.

Everyone seems to either:
A. Know someone…
B. Be someone…
C. Have been someone…

…Who could at one time Bench 1500lbs, Squat about, you know, 4000 pounds, and deadlift about eight tons.

Of course, since I train strongman, I get the easy way out.

“Hey Mr. T, how much you bench?”

“I don’t bench. I train strongman.”

If the conversation doesn’t end there, they usually ask something like:

“So, what, can you like, pick up cars and stuff”

“Yeah, I’ve been in a competition where I picked up a car 8 times. It was cool”

And that ends it. Because no motherfucker on earth wants to say that they can do that too, only to have to go out to the parking lot to prove it.

…and I actually just started training bench, but I don’t lift anything impressive, so it doesn’t count in my mind. Yet.

WHAT KIND OF FOOL WOULD SUGGEST THAT MR. T CANNOT LIFT A CAR.
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i dont know, but i pity him.

Number of people doing deadlifts at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing squats at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing Bench presses at my gym: 462 (all looking like the Tasmanian devil)

Who would I lie to?

[quote]DickBag wrote:
Subliminal-Steve wrote:
my 1RM is 500… thats for my curls when I’m doing them in the squat rack

i can do that to. i dont bother with full range of motion though, i only do partial reps, like the big guys do

ya know, unlock the elbows and thats one rep.

some newbs think that its not proper curls, that im just holding 500 pounds in the squat rack, but they are just newbs so who cares what they say.

[/quote]

I recently learned the proper way to curl large weights. In the squat rack, grab onto the bar while it’s still on the pins. Bend your elbows and pull your torso down to the bar, then come back up. That is one rep. I get a mad pump in my 18" pythons this way, and everyone in the gym looks at me because they’re jealous I can curl 405.

[quote]TQB wrote:
Number of people doing deadlifts at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing squats at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing Bench presses at my gym: 462 (all looking like the Tasmanian devil)

Who would I lie to?[/quote]

wow i wouldve expected europe to be more conscious of leg development. considering how much soccer you play and i thought you guys were supposed to be hardcore? well like germany and eastern europe. but belgium is close to germany right?

Men have “ego issues” like women have “weight and age issues”.

Just ignore this type of BS. Don’t get into conversations with non-serious trainers.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
TQB wrote:
Number of people doing deadlifts at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing squats at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing Bench presses at my gym: 462 (all looking like the Tasmanian devil)

Who would I lie to?

wow i wouldve expected europe to be more conscious of leg development. considering how much soccer you play and i thought you guys were supposed to be hardcore? well like germany and eastern europe. but belgium is close to germany right?[/quote]

lol…typical American reply

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
TQB wrote:
Number of people doing deadlifts at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing squats at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing Bench presses at my gym: 462 (all looking like the Tasmanian devil)

Who would I lie to?

wow i wouldve expected europe to be more conscious of leg development. considering how much soccer you play and i thought you guys were supposed to be hardcore? well like germany and eastern europe. but belgium is close to germany right?[/quote]

Simple. Teenagers and guys in their twenties looking to score at the clubs. They’ll wear trousers, so “it doesn’t matter”. Weights are lying everywhere in the gym on Saturday morning for the same reason.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
TQB wrote:
Number of people doing deadlifts at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing squats at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing Bench presses at my gym: 462 (all looking like the Tasmanian devil)

Who would I lie to?

wow i wouldve expected europe to be more conscious of leg development. considering how much soccer you play and i thought you guys were supposed to be hardcore? well like germany and eastern europe. but belgium is close to germany right?

lol…typical American reply[/quote]

dude just look at the leader of russia. i mean the guy is nutes. dont get me wrong we’d kick your fuckin asses in a war, but the guy is nuttier than an elephant shit.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
TQB wrote:
Number of people doing deadlifts at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing squats at my gym: 1 (me)

Number of people doing Bench presses at my gym: 462 (all looking like the Tasmanian devil)

Who would I lie to?

wow i wouldve expected europe to be more conscious of leg development. considering how much soccer you play and i thought you guys were supposed to be hardcore? well like germany and eastern europe. but belgium is close to germany right?

lol…typical American reply

dude just look at the leader of russia. i mean the guy is nutes. dont get me wrong we’d kick your fuckin asses in a war, but the guy is nuttier than an elephant shit.[/quote]

So, you’re up to date with the present situation in Russia, eh? Please enlighten us with your other thoughts of how this is affecting our relationship with Russia.

Pretty please.

[quote]echelon101 wrote:
The main reason not to lie is that often you are more likely to get help if people can see the real picture ie if I posted:

Sq = 130kg
DL = 180kg
Bench = 100kg
(a lie)

as opposed to

Sq = 110kg
DL = 140kg
Bench = 70kg
(assumed truth)

Then people will be able to give more specific advice. Which aides the end user better.[/quote]

Your logic is disgusting and I hate you.