Lower Chest Development

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hey guys,
first post here, so go easy if i’m not in the right place;

i’ve been working out on and off for quite a few years, but i got serious about a year and half ago. been reading T-Nation like crazy; thanx to all the (awesome) authors for the (bleeding edge, in-the-trench) articles that are FREE! :slight_smile:

getting to my query; i’ve had pretty good development all over, shoulders, arms legs and all. however, my lower pecs seem to be a completely different story; i believe the term is bottom heavy.

whats the best way to eliminate or at least alleviate this problem? anyone else deal with it? what worked for you? when i flex my chest a few times, my upper pecs seem to get pumped easily. but the lower pecs don’t seem to respond too well.

thanks a lot ppl. :slight_smile:

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Dips, elbows out; careful on the shoulders though

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I have the complete oppisite, even though i do incline now it just doesnt work with my chest, Try decline DB, def agree with the dips.

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thanx bros. but elbows out? i don’t understand; while doing dips, the elbows are bending out… or am i thinking this wrong?

i’m concerned over this so much because i’m honestly dumbfounded by whats wrong. i’ve got pretty noticeable meat hooks (forearms) and arms and shoulders too. heck, even my upper chest is solid. but to balance it out with the lower ‘moob’ look… just ruins the whole effect.

anywho. if anyones been through this and came out the better, plz post your experience/workout here.

thanx. :slight_smile:

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[quote]animal x wrote:
thanx bros. but elbows out? i don’t understand; while doing dips, the elbows are bending out… or am i thinking this wrong?

i’m concerned over this so much because i’m honestly dumbfounded by whats wrong. i’ve got pretty noticeable meat hooks (forearms) and arms and shoulders too. heck, even my upper chest is solid. but to balance it out with the lower ‘moob’ look… just ruins the whole effect.

anywho. if anyones been through this and came out the better, plz post your experience/workout here.

thanx. :)[/quote]

What is your body fat percentage, how much do you weigh, how tall are you and do you know what “gynecomastia” is?

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Make sure your chin is on your chest during dips. They’re better than decline BP

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I’m not sure I understood. Are you saying you have too much lower chest, or not enough?

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[quote]LUEshi wrote:
I’m not sure I understood. Are you saying you have too much lower chest, or not enough?[/quote]

i believe he wants to have lower pec development…but he doesn’t elaborate well so it is hard to tell

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Most people complain about upper and inner pec development. In fact, this is the first complaint of the contrary I have seen.

OP, is your upper and inner chest really bigger than your lower chest?

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prof x:
weight = 236 lbs.
height = 5 feet 7.
body fat % = how do u calculate this again?
gyno = yes, now i do know.

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[quote]That One Guy wrote:
LUEshi wrote:
I’m not sure I understood. Are you saying you have too much lower chest, or not enough?

i believe he wants to have lower pec development…but he doesn’t elaborate well so it is hard to tell[/quote]

sorry for the ambiguity folks. what i mean is, yes, i want more lower chest development. my lower chest area is soft and mushy, while my upper chest area is hard (when flexed). what i want is an overall armor-like chest look.

does that help? :confused:

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[quote]animal x wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
LUEshi wrote:
I’m not sure I understood. Are you saying you have too much lower chest, or not enough?

i believe he wants to have lower pec development…but he doesn’t elaborate well so it is hard to tell

sorry for the ambiguity folks. what i mean is, yes, i want more lower chest development. my lower chest area is soft and mushy, while my upper chest area is hard (when flexed). what i want is an overall armor-like chest look.

does that help? :confused:
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A picture would confirm what I think your problem is. If you do have gyno, that may or may not be directly related to how much fat you are carrying. No one can know this without seeing what you look like.

Most people don’t have a problem building up their “lower chest” if they claim their “upper chest” grows just fine. It sounds like you have fat covering yours. No one can tell you what to do specifically to deal with that because no one knows whether your problem can be fixed completely by simply training the area differently.

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This is making more sense now. I’d be willing to bet that your upper chest is toned while your lower chest is flabby because there’s fat on your lower chest. I’m not calling you fat. I’m just saying fat forms on your lower chest long before it forms on your upper chest.

Your chest development is probably doing alright. You just can’t tell because your lower chest development is hidden.

Everything I’ve said is totally wrong if your 45’ Bench Press max and your flat Bench Press max are the same.

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[quote]FightingScott wrote:
This is making more sense now. I’d be willing to bet that your upper chest is toned while your lower chest is flabby because there’s fat on your lower chest. I’m not calling you fat. I’m just saying fat forms on your lower chest long before it forms on your upper chest.

Your chest development is probably doing alright. You just can’t tell because your lower chest development is hidden.

Everything I’ve said is totally wrong if your 45’ Bench Press max and your flat Bench Press max are the same. [/quote]

haven’t done flat pressing in a long time coz of an old shoulder injury that gets aggravated when i do. instead, i use the vertical hammer strength machine. i can do 200lbs on a good day, while for db presses i can get 140lbs.

thanx for your input bro, i’ll give it a few more months and see whats up…

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
animal x wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
LUEshi wrote:
I’m not sure I understood. Are you saying you have too much lower chest, or not enough?

i believe he wants to have lower pec development…but he doesn’t elaborate well so it is hard to tell

sorry for the ambiguity folks. what i mean is, yes, i want more lower chest development. my lower chest area is soft and mushy, while my upper chest area is hard (when flexed). what i want is an overall armor-like chest look.

does that help? :confused:

A picture would confirm what I think your problem is. If you do have gyno, that may or may not be directly related to how much fat you are carrying. No one can know this without seeing what you look like.

Most people don’t have a problem building up their “lower chest” if they claim their “upper chest” grows just fine. It sounds like you have fat covering yours. No one can tell you what to do specifically to deal with that because no one knows whether your problem can be fixed completely by simply training the area differently.[/quote]

arrite professor. i’ll see how things progress for a few more months and see whats up. :slight_smile:
thanx.

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[quote]animal x wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
This is making more sense now. I’d be willing to bet that your upper chest is toned while your lower chest is flabby because there’s fat on your lower chest. I’m not calling you fat. I’m just saying fat forms on your lower chest long before it forms on your upper chest.

Your chest development is probably doing alright. You just can’t tell because your lower chest development is hidden.

Everything I’ve said is totally wrong if your 45’ Bench Press max and your flat Bench Press max are the same.

haven’t done flat pressing in a long time coz of an old shoulder injury that gets aggravated when i do. instead, i use the vertical hammer strength machine. i can do 200lbs on a good day, while for db presses i can get 140lbs.

thanx for your input bro, i’ll give it a few more months and see whats up…[/quote]

Kind of offtopic, but how the hell are people about to dumbbell press so freakin much??

I was trying dumbbell pressees the other day, and my max was 40 lbs. I can bench more then 80, but the problem comes in because the dumbbells need to be curled first before getting into the postition for benching them. With regular bench press you dont have to do this because the bar is already above you, so no curling is required. Am I missing somethign here???

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[quote]DanErickson wrote:
animal x wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
This is making more sense now. I’d be willing to bet that your upper chest is toned while your lower chest is flabby because there’s fat on your lower chest. I’m not calling you fat. I’m just saying fat forms on your lower chest long before it forms on your upper chest.

Your chest development is probably doing alright. You just can’t tell because your lower chest development is hidden.

Everything I’ve said is totally wrong if your 45’ Bench Press max and your flat Bench Press max are the same.

haven’t done flat pressing in a long time coz of an old shoulder injury that gets aggravated when i do. instead, i use the vertical hammer strength machine. i can do 200lbs on a good day, while for db presses i can get 140lbs.

thanx for your input bro, i’ll give it a few more months and see whats up…

Kind of offtopic, but how the hell are people about to dumbbell press so freakin much??

I was trying dumbbell pressees the other day, and my max was 40 lbs. I can bench more then 80, but the problem comes in because the dumbbells need to be curled first before getting into the postition for benching them. With regular bench press you dont have to do this because the bar is already above you, so no curling is required. Am I missing somethign here???
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140lbs = combined weight for both arms. thats 70lb dbs each arm, bro.

however, regarding raising the dbs for pressing: u gotta cheat a bit, kick the dbs up with your knees. that make sense? u can have someone to help it up too.

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[quote]animal x wrote:
DanErickson wrote:
animal x wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
This is making more sense now. I’d be willing to bet that your upper chest is toned while your lower chest is flabby because there’s fat on your lower chest. I’m not calling you fat. I’m just saying fat forms on your lower chest long before it forms on your upper chest.

Your chest development is probably doing alright. You just can’t tell because your lower chest development is hidden.

Everything I’ve said is totally wrong if your 45’ Bench Press max and your flat Bench Press max are the same.

haven’t done flat pressing in a long time coz of an old shoulder injury that gets aggravated when i do. instead, i use the vertical hammer strength machine. i can do 200lbs on a good day, while for db presses i can get 140lbs.

thanx for your input bro, i’ll give it a few more months and see whats up…

Kind of offtopic, but how the hell are people about to dumbbell press so freakin much??

I was trying dumbbell pressees the other day, and my max was 40 lbs. I can bench more then 80, but the problem comes in because the dumbbells need to be curled first before getting into the postition for benching them. With regular bench press you dont have to do this because the bar is already above you, so no curling is required. Am I missing somethign here???

140lbs = combined weight for both arms. thats 70lb dbs each arm, bro.

however, regarding raising the dbs for pressing: u gotta cheat a bit, kick the dbs up with your knees. that make sense? u can have someone to help it up too.[/quote]

To both of you, when people mention their weight used with dumbbell presses, they do NOT combine the weight. You press 70lbs dumbbells…not 140lbs.

As far as getting them in position, that is why it takes full body strength. No little guy is going to easily get 140lbs dumbbells into position by himself. It gives a pretty good indication of how someone is built all over if they can press 140lbs in each hand. It is also why that weight does not directly coincide with the barbell bench press and why I consider the dumbbell press a greater move as far as development.

The barbell is overhyped.

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Damn, 140 lbs dumbbells???

I though I was cool because I did them with 80’s

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
Dips, elbows out; careful on the shoulders though[/quote]

So would I be correct in thinking that keeping your elbows closer to the body would work the lats and tri’s more?